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Hey last, I take 4 weeks off and would like to spend them in Africa.

Had a blast in Ethiopia (mountains, deserts, jungle, safari - diverse). Any country recommendation?

Was thinking about Madagascar (safety?) and Uganda / Rwanda.
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I heard Sierra Leone is a lot of fun
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>>2431718 (OP)
The Sahel is where you can still find real adventure
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>>2431721
Heard good stuff about Mauritania and Mali, but probably not in May or June.
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>>2431718 (OP)
Is Ethiopia a good country for someone's first Africa trip?
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>>2431821
I think so, it is unlike other African countries. The local, especially north of Addis, are quite shy and reserved. Youngsters speak English.

I was travelling around solo with buses and one inland flight (Mekkele to Addis). Never felt unsafe. South of Addis seems more wild but still manageable. I guess it gets like this the more you go to black Africs.
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>>2431724
Libya to Chad to CAR to Congo and the Atlantic coast would be an amazing trip.
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>>2431851
Been there?
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why did the kenya thread get deleted?
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>>2431928
Because western men aren't allowed to have sex with foreign women. We have to simp for western feminists.
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>>2431930
well hopefully that 30yr old boomer that was giving advice comes to this thread
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Bump
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Kenya is the new Phillipines for white guys. Get on prep and wrap it up.
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>>2432129
>wrap it up
Fag
ONLY unprotected creampies
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I’ve been to Senegal a few times; good destination in terms of its diversity, and it’s the least shitty country in the region. if I had a month I’d lump it in with the Bissagos islands and the Fouta Djallon in Guinea.
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>>2432313
Could u pls expand on diversity in Senegal? Your experience?
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>>2432601
Sahel in the north, jungle in the south, and each of the 3 major rivers (Senegal, Saloum, Casamance) has a very different character. Most of the country is Muslim but Casamance is Christian/Animist so you can drink beer and chat up women there. It's a good country if you want to hike/bike around in the bush and visit traditional villages. Best of all, it's visa-free for Westerners.
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>>2431718 (OP)
>Was thinking about Madagascar (safety?) and Uganda / Rwanda.


Sounds like you're into nature and ecotourism so hopefully it's a legit question.

I spent about 2 years all across Africa with the majority of that time in Uganda and surrounding countries and then Burkina Faso and surrounding countries. (Not counting time in MENA which is so culturally different)

Uganda, while poor and a bit sketchy if you go to the north and LRA territory, has breathtakingly beautiful nature, kind people, and enough tourism infrastructure that you can have some amenities without paying south Africa prices.

You could fly into Entebbe, make your base camp out of Kampala, and arrange a driver/fixer to take you on some trips.

I would do Murchison Falls National Park. You can stay in a decently swanky safari lodge,and then drive around the park with your own rented truck SUV with your driver. Also do a Nile river safari and fishing excusion. Stay like 2 or 3 nights.

Next do Mgahinga Gorilla National Park and see the mountain gorillas and you already have a pretty solid trip.

A day exploring Entebbe could be cool too to see the flavor of how some folk live. Go to the botanical garden, take a boat to the Bamba chimpanzee sanctuary which is an island on Lake Victoria. Eat dinner at Carpe Diem and then go party at Night Riders

If you're in Entebbe go talk to James the owner of the Safari bar and he can hook you up for anything you need. 

In Kampala make sure you try Lawns, it's a fancy bush meat restaurant.

Pic related is towards the end of an all day Nile river safari at Murchison falls. I'll share a few more.
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>>2432690
Pics are all scaled down sorry. No idea where my originals are. Some hard drive probably.
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>>2432691
Last one for now. Feel free to ama
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>>2432690
>Bamba
Ngamba
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>>2432690
How's the cooming in Uganda?
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>>2432690
Any reason whatsoever to visit Burkina Faso? For context I really like the Sahel vibe; I don't need to visit tourist sites.
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>>2432700
No. I would go to to Algeria, Jordan, Morocco, Egypt, etc. If you want that vibe even the Namib desert in the south. Burkina Faso is all of the bad African Stereotypes personified. That image of just a bleak, dust brown, sad place with sad and poor people. Just not a lot to do compared to other places, not to mention danger and instability. I personally got caught there for two coups.

>>2432695
Good and easy. Sad when they want to take you to their quadcon container they live in and introduce you to the family
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>>2432700
>For context I really like the Sahel vibe

Just for clarification, I get that my alternatives are not exactly the same culturally if that's the part that you're really into, but the ambiance will be very similar. I just don't think the Sahel region is worth it for 99% of tourists because of all the complications. Unless you have connections, experience, means to defend yourself, there's just better options out there in my opinion.
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>>2432713
>means to defend yourself
Fucking kek, picturing myself riding around Burkina Faso with a 9mm and a can of bear spray, poker facing the police checkpoints. You don't find anything appealing about that part of the world? It's so unique.
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>>2432700
>Any reason whatsoever to visit Burkina Faso?

Not the same guy, but i wouldn't go near Burkina Faso or Sahel for the years to come. 

There's a major power play between the French soldiers who have been booted out of the area because africans accuse them of secretly funding the islamists (France just acting as the local vassal of the US) and the Russian military who has been called by the new Burkinabe government. Sahel can soon become the Midddle-East.
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>>2432965
>You don't find anything appealing about that part of the world? It's so unique.

I honestly do. I did many things I enjoyed while there. It's just unavoidable how dangerous and shitty it is, so it's hard to justify suggesting going there over other places I know of for the average person asking about it.

I lived in Ouagadougou for 6 months and sure I had some nice times, but it's still not a place I would ever suggest.

>>2432971
Not the last coup, but the one before that we were driving down the road and hit a roadblock or burning debris setup by locals. We got grabbed up, and then when they found out we were American and not French they just let us go. They really hate the French in Burkina Faso.
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>>2433006
Thanks for the perspective. I visited southern Mali and Senegal after reading L'étrange destin de Wangrin and found them both peak comfy. Not sketchy at all if you can tolerate miserable public transport. One really can't generalize about the entire Sahel, although I agree as a whole it's on a downward slide toward being an islamist shithole, mostly thanks to environmental factors.
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>>2432651
>>2432690
Do random locals accept you / communicate in friendly manner with you?
While travelling through the country, is the scenery changing?
Done any (independent) hiking in the country?
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>>2431718 (OP)
What's Togo like?
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>>2433117
Re. Senegal:
>Do random locals accept you / communicate in friendly manner with you?
Outside of the cities, yes. But you must speak French.

>Done any (independent) hiking in the country?
Lots. A peace corps guy told me about a good hike between Dindefelo and Bandafassi, and after that I spent a few days hiking up and down the escarpment on the Guinea border looking for a supposedly haunted waterfall. The frequent villages make it really easy to not get lost and die. Also spent 5 days camping in Niokolo Koba, although that's illegal without a guide so don't recommend. I've done it at the peak of the rainy season and the peak of the dry; I don't recommend either.
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>>2433302
Great spot to hang out
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>>2432296
you can get otc aids tests really easily in a lot of areas now right?
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>>2432705
People live in shipping containers?
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>>2432690
What sort of things can James hook you up with specifically?
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>>2433921
Some do, yeah. Some live better, some live worse (see pic). This girl was a waitress at a restaurant in Entebbe. Africa is pretty poor, anon. In South Sudan, DRC, CAR, etc. You can find whole little quadcon enclaves where people are living deep in the bush in a bunch of them together that got lost out there one way or another.

>>2433957
Connections to people for whatever service/need. He's a Brit married to a Ugandan who's been there forever and knows a lot of people. He helped us source drivers/fixers, plan safaris and excursions, organize pub crawls with other restaurant/bar owners he knew. We'd go golfing with him, even used his tattoo artist and equipment. Just remember that everything you take for granted where you live to just be able to do or easily google, to get it done in some parts of Africa you probably have to know the right person. He knows a lot of people.
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>>2434040
Will a backpacker make it independently around Uganda? Local buses, gueshouses, random activities, hiking? Any take on Rwanda?
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>>2434192
Sure if you can make friends. Local buses aren't going to be particularly reliable but you'll be treated alright. You also won't be alone, you'll run into other mzungu doing similar. Entebbe even has a backpackers club where all the dirty backpackers with white people dreads hang out. Rwanda will be similar. It won't always be easy or comfortable, but definitely doable to get around. Just do some research on what conflicts are happening and active. What areas have shit going down, etc. and avoid those. Northern Uganda near South Sudan and DRC is pretty much no-go. Triborder area with CAR, DRC and South Sudan also no-go.
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>>2432971
>because africans accuse them of secretly funding the islamists
They're not wrong. French people are lazy. The country would be as poor as Spain or Italy if they did not dominate half of Africa economically, a continent-sized region with over 200 million inhabitants. It provides them cheap energy imports through uranium and oil from Gabon and agricultural goods from Togo and Benin. 

Their domination of the local currency sucks the blood out of these countries, enriching the French elite and their local henchmen and impoverishing the locals. When the local government refuses to play along, the French respond by funding armed opposition groups. Paris has intervened militarily in Africa over 30 times since WWII. They even assassinated the president of Togo. There's a reason why France is the villain in that new Black Panther movie. 

That's why French niggers are the worst behaved niggers in the entire West. They are allowed to immigrate to the country in droves so rich French guys can benefit from cheap labor, but they hate the country and are fully aware of what it has done to them. This is why France is the European country apart from Sweden with the most evidence of decline. Ex-Rothschild banker Emmanuel Macron and others like him are flooding the country with niggers who have chips on their shoulders, who take it out on ordinary people. The situation is so much worse than even ten years ago.
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>>2431718 (OP)
Bump. No country with affordable multiday hike? RSA?
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>>2436175
>affordable multiday hike
Who pays to go hiking?
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>>2436387
You can't just go off on your own in a country like that. Might run into sketchy people. Like poachers, smugglers, or an armed resistance group.
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>>2435588
Let's be real, if it wasn't the French it would have been someone else.
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>>2436460
You're right, it's just sad the average French person has to suffer for the profits of a couple rich Jews and their shabbos goys like Macron.
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>>2435588
Based and correct
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>>2436444
See >>2433302
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>>2435588
>implying Spain and Italy are poor
>implying colonization didn't cost much more money than it brought in and wasn't mostly done for prestige
>implying Gabon didn't vote to stay under French control but were ignored
>implying the world bank loans and UN conditions are not buttfucking all of Africa in much deeper and more painful ways than a monetary supervision of CFA >implying french military interventions do not happen at the demand of local dictators but are american type invasions
Also this is 4channel, could you refrain from using the word nigger?
faggot
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>just learned there is an entire tribe in Kenya known for hourglass figures and fat asses
coomerbros…
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can I get a Tier List of African countries overall?
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looking for a place in Africa to chill for a month and also use as a base for small trips
what's the move?
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>>2439050
Which one?
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>>2439692
Nairobi
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>>2439713
Luo
>https://kenyandigest.com/the-modern-luo-lady-is-it-just-a-stereotype-or-theres-truth-in-it/
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>>2439728
Isn't Nairobi really hectic?