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would you rather visit austria or switzerland? |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Debated this pretty hard myself on my last Europe trip, I was gonna do Switzerland but then the price of the rail pass shot way up and I chose Austria instead. I still ended up passing through Basel briefly so I have experience with both. |
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Switzerland was absurdly, retardedly expensive. I ate one (1) meal there and it ran me like 45 francs. It didn't seem very "cultural" either, but that may have been because I was in a big city. I spoke to 3 people in fluent German and they all answered me back in English, because they themselves did not speak German as well as I did. |
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I was very satisfied with Austria and I don't regret it. Vienna was magnificent and I went to Hallstatt for my "countryside" alpine fix, which it satisfied perfectly. It wasn't the god-tier 15000m peaks and the Skyrim wilderness experience and such -- if you really want that then there's no substitute for Switzerland. But Austria was still lovely and the nature (especially in the south) is 90% as nice, at 50% the cost. And as far as big cities go, Vienna blew Basel out of the fucking water. |
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>>2432613 |
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>Austria is 90% as nice, at 50% the cost |
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>Vienna blew Basel out of the fucking water |
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Basically this. If you are rich, go to Switzerland. But Austria is amazing, too. |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Vienna trumps every Swiss city by a wide margin. Other than that, Austria is just way better value for money. |
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>big cities |
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Austria (more precisely: Vienna) |
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>small cities |
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Switzerland |
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>nature |
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Switzerland |
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>small towns |
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Austria |
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>villages |
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Switzerland |
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>food |
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Austria |
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>>2432613 |
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>Basel |
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Yeah, not the best city to visit in Switzerland. |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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I liked them both but Vienna was my favorite European city. |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Vienna is great but I really want to float down Berns river so I'll go with Switzerland |
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Are there any towns or cities in Austria that facilitate day hikes the way places like Lucerne do? Where you can go off up a mountain or hop on a quick train to another hike spot etc and be able to get back to your home base for dinner? |
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--- 2433638 |
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It depends on how much money you have to spend. Switzerland has the best hiking infrastructure in the world. No one can come close. But it's insanely expensive. The train from Geneva to Zermatt is $100 per person each way. A typical dinner for 2 people will always be over $100. Beers are $9-12 everywhere. But, it's fucking beautiful. And there are 0 blacks and almost no crime. Zermatt is fucking glorious. We had the entire floor of a Chalet for $150/night. This was the view from our Airbnb |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Why not both, I mean they are even next to eachother |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Vienna is a better city than anything in Switzerland |
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Everything is way cheaper in Austria |
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Outdoors stuff is better in Switzerland. Austria is still very pretty but it doesn’t have anything quite like Lauterbrunnen or Zermatt |
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Basically if you have the coin Switzerland is better but you’re not going to have a bad time in Austria either. |
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>>2433638 |
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Zermatt has one of the world’s greatest day hikes - the Five Lakes Walk. Achingly beautiful every single step of its 11km. Even the normies were impressed. |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Austria is cheaper, no? |
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>>2432613 |
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>And as far as big cities go, Vienna blew Basel out of the fucking water. |
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LOL from Basel, population ~171,000. Vienna has more than ten times as many people. There are no big cities in Switzerland, period. We’re the third biggest in the country with fewer than 200,000 people, and even Zürich has fewer than 400K (they pretend to have 1.5M, “metro,” but that’s an agglomeration of nearly 200 distinct towns and villages, many of which have virtually nothing to do with the city, not anything like a contiguous urban area). A lot of the small cities here do have nice, dense little centers, but they’re all villages at heart. |
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Anyway, I love living here, and appreciate traveling domestically, but wouldn’t visit if I weren’t already here. Adjacent parts of Austria, France, and Italy have nearly all of the same stuff we’ve got, apart from cleanliness, world-class infrastructure, and a superiority complex, plus superior food, at huge discounts. The language and cultural diversity is rather interesting—French-speaking Switzerland is quite distinct from German-speaking Switzerland, and Italian-speaking Switzerland even more so, but I don’t think it makes up for paying twice as much or more for everything. |
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Worth seeing: |
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1. Vienna |
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2. Salzburg |
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3. Zürich |
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4. Genf |
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5. Innsbruck |
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6. Basel |
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7. Luzern |
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8. Graz |
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9. Bern |
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10. Lausanne |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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switzerland |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Switzerlands flag is a big plus for me |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Austria |
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>tfw when been all over Europe but never Norway or Switzerland because poorfag |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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If you can ski and have the money go to Zermatt. One of the most beautiful places on earth. |
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>>2438159 |
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Expensive but at globalist cabal tier standards. |
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>tfw the annual WEF conference needs additional prostitutes flown in to satisfy the demand |
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>>2432673 |
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Wth is the difference between a small town and a village? |
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>>2432587 (OP) |
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Might as well explore both if you're already there, waste of time not to if you're flying in from a different continent, and if you're euro then why the fuck not |
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>>2433562 |
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pretty sure there are. For bigger cities Innsbruck, Salzburg and even Vienna work. For smaller cities and villages there should be countless of options. |
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Just search for the best hiking trails and mountains in Austria and pick a place nearby. |
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How bad are the mosquitoes in Austria? |
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