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--- 15321812
is there really only limited scientific proof that men are better than women at athletics? 
is this an area of scientific investigation that still has a lot of low hanging fruit ready for the picking?
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>>15321812 (OP)
Men always do better than women in most every area, except bitching, spending money on clothes, and gossip.
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>>15321812 (OP)
do the collection of world's records constitute the results of a large series of scientific experiments on this topic? if so, this fruit hangs extremely close to the ground. too bad it would never pass peer review if someone wanted to publish it
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>>15321812 (OP)
It's already self evident.
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>>15321812 (OP)
>>15322103
Doesn't matter if it was wrong anyways, modern """science""" demands you deny obvious reality to maintain itself.
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>>15322139
>modern """science""" demands you deny obvious reality to maintain itself.
sounds like the people involved are mentally ill & living in a deluded fantasy land of their own creation - maybe the fantasyland was imposed upon them by their excess media consumption.
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>>15322139
>>15322148
Enough with the antisemitism.
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>>15321812 (OP)

NPR is delusional. They have left facts behind and firmly believe they can dictate reality by calling anyone who disagrees with them a bigot.
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>>15321812 (OP)
>trans women are real women
>trans women are just as good at sports as men
>therefore women are just as good at sports as men
is that their "logic"?
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>>15321812 (OP)
>2003
>best woman (female) golfer on the planet - possibly in history - accepts invitation to play in a low tier men's pro tour event
>by her own account plays well
>finishes 96th out of 111

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/ten-years-later-remembering-annika-sorenstam-playing-pga-tour-colonial
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>>15321812 (OP)
Laughable. Tennis is a very fair comparison. Takes quick movement, reactions, upper and lower body strength to excel. Even a legendary female player like a Williams or Graf would get destroyed by even a mid-level men's college player. I'm as progressive as they come but this is total horse shit.
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>>15321812 (OP)
Wow is the media really dialing it back with the trannysm? First the army now this shit? Must be bad at Bakhmut
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>>15324921
They're in regroup mode after Nashville but their inability to fully condemn the tranny shooter signals they'll come out of it with a quiet tolerance for literal terrorism, so there's that.
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>>15321812 (OP)
>NPR
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>>15325287
>NPR
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>>15327082
Suddenlies are making this flat plane a better place.
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>>15321812 (OP)
More of the Gell-Mann amnesia effect at play here. People will look at this outright retardation and then still believe the media when they say global warming and covid-19 are real
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>>15321825
>Men always do better than women in most every area,
I heard that women were as good as men in shooting competitions
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>>15327926
Also once you get over around 100 miles it turns out women are better runners at that distance.
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>>15327926
>>15328184
theres limited scientific evidence for your outlandish claims, but you male feminist simps probably don't care about that
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>>15328479
I’m no simp but there are extremely niche areas where women excel, almost by sheer happenstance. Fighter pilots, who woulda figured that one.
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>>15328491
more simp fairy tales, lily litvyak is the most accomplished female fighter pilot, she only lasted a few months in combat before she was zapped. 
are you a tranny?
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>>15328491
Long distance swimming is the only sport I know of where women have a well demonstrated competitive advantage over men. Ultra long running is such a tiny sport that female advantage there might be due to few individuals who are extreme outliers. But maybe they do have an advantage there too. There just isn't enough data like there is with long distance swimming. 
It does make me wonder if sports could be designed with the female body in mind where they'd have a built in advantage. For long distance swimming, it was discovered accidentally that there's a female advantage, probably due to differences in fat distribution and buoyancy. 
Many sports end up advantaging people of certain attribute extremes. Being 3SD tall is an advantage in basketball. Being 3SD massive is an advantage in playing line positions in gridiron football. It's possible that sports could be intentionally designed where women are competitive or even generally better than men. It's interesting that no one seems to be attempting this, instead they focus on trying to make it look like women can outdo men in sports men clearly are dominate in.
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>>15328657
>It's interesting that no one seems to be attempting this, instead they focus on trying to make it look like women can outdo men in sports men clearly are dominate in.

I think most people understand the inherent advantages that men have, there’s just an extremely small but loud minority who push this drivel.
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>>15321812 (OP)
I dunno about low hanging fruit, you're going to have to put some work into the experimental design to get the correct results

But yes if you have no morals and only care about being published and successful in the social sciences, any studies showing there is no difference between men and women or showing similarities between trans and cis men and women will get you huge amounts of funding and social acclaim
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>>15328638
No I was in the military and watched female fighter pilots pull high G maneuvers that would’ve blacked out any other person. 

Like I said, niche things.
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>>15328184
>once you get over around 100 miles it turns out women are better runners at that distance.

>Late on Thursday night, January 6, 2022, in Israel, Sorokin did it once again, setting a (to be confirmed) new 100-mile (160.934 kilometers) world record in 10 hours, 51 minutes, and 39 seconds, as well as a new 12-hour world record by running 110.24 miles (177.41 kilometers) in that time. Sorokin held an incredible average pace of about 6:32 minutes per mile (about 4:04 minutes per kilometer) for 12 hours.

>Camille Herron, a 40-year-old ultrarunner, recently broke her own 100-mile women's world record of 12:41:11 (7:37 per mi/4:44 per km) at the Jackpot 100/ @usatf Championship

Where do you people get this shit
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>>15321825
what's happening in the bottom picture?
>>15325287
>>15327082
>NPR
our taxes pay for this
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>>15329050
How much of a difference is there between whether the head is up or down with respect to the force experienced?
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>>15329075
Yeah my bad, looks like the number is much closer to 200 miles.
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>>15329131
>our taxes pay for this
NPR was recently labeled as state-funded media on Twitter and started pissing and shitting its pants about it.
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>>15329740
I thought working for the government was supposed to be a prestigious and respected job, why are they trying to hide who they work for?
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>>15329740
>>15329131
>>15327082
>>15325287
>NPR
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>>15330817
The organized crime gang that runs the show in D.C. does not prosecute their own corrupt activities, so the Hunter Biden story is not relevant to the news. Makes no difference how much crime the guy is involved with. NPR isn't covering the Obama campaign finance trial either, because no significant convicting can possibly come out of it.
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>>15330475
Why indeed.
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>>15328975
>It's just a couple of undergrads in a few departments at a small number of schools. Itself worth noticing or bothering with saying anything about.
And now 2+2=5.
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>>15329050
I was in the military and I saw female fighter pilots crash into mailboxes, ruining aircraft that cost tens of millions of dollars. My lived experience is as valid as yours, so don't bother questioning it.
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>>15329131
>>15330817
NPR are one of many terrorist organizations that have become enemies of the people and freedom.
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>>15329131
>what's happening in the bottom picture?
Female to male troon got BTFO by male cops.
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>>15322070
seems like it should a pretty easy issue to analyze statistically
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>>15330817
NPR?
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>>15334948
NPR!
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>>15334950
i think most of that imagery violates the no child porn comic on blue boards rule. 
lmao that 4chan is more censored and more tasteful than elementary school libraries.
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>>15321812 (OP)
>another poltard thread on sci

lmao this board has truly become pol 2.0.

Don't you incels ever get tired of making the same retarded threads day after day?
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>>15324862
Does golf require a special level of upper body strength? Isn't it more about precision in movement?
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>>15329131
>our taxes pay for this
Yes, but "only" about 15% of NPR's budget comes from government.
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>>15335999
This thread doesn't seem as sexist as these threads used to be. The sexists are getting less aggressive. They used to call for the enslavement and genocide of all women
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>>15336043
That precision is what allows you to use your full strength. I don't play, but I enjoy the driving range. The game itself is kind of tedious.
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>>15328657
what about sports which are separated by weight classes? for instance how much can women who weight <50kg lift vs men who weight <50kg? 

it would be interesting to see if there's difference, and also if the difference changes when they allow the athlete to weight up to 70kg, 100kg and so on, and also maybe it changes if it's powerlift, squat or other different categories
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>>15336067
You're responding to someone calling men incels, and you whine about sexism against women. How come sexism always goes one way, and the other way it's invisbile?

Women truly are retarded. They should all be genocided or at least enslaved, to be honest.
--- 15336238
Fastest time for men in 100 meters:9.58 sec
Fastest time for women in 100 meters: 10.5 seconds
The women's fastest time wouldn't even make it into the top 100 of male athletes performance
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>>15336238
confirmation bias
women face a lot more difficulty trying to get into sports so the talent pool becomes much smaller
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>>15336249
Not these days
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>>15336270
how would you know chud
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>>15336249
Lol, sometimes it's easy to forget that there are people out there who are really retarded enough to think like this.

Women are weaker than men. They have no talent pool in sports. That's the bias.
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>>15336284
any evidence to back that up chud?
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>>15336286
evidence is me kicking the butt out of any woman I've ever met. literally piledrive them to their death in 1 second
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>>15336301
t. has never been in a fight
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>>15336304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFXIov-zlM [Embed]
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>>15336304
Who is going to likely sustain a concussion more easily? I sure wonder
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>>15329131
woman tried to compete in school shooting
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>>15336142
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>>15336286
>Mom, look I called him chud again
Good god, you can feel the estrogen seeping out of this post. 

Look if you want to be a drooling retard who has never played sports or interacted with a woman, I don't care enough to stop you. But just know society is leaving you behind in real time. The inmates have been running the asylum, but very soon you will be back to the hated loser you deserve to be. All it took was a few trannies fucking up women in sports for a year or two.
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>>15336440
>2 more weeks
yeah im sure all your incel fantasies are going to become true
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>>15336443
Does wearing women's clothing increase your opportunities for sexual activity?
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>>15336443
>Mom now I called him an incel
Lol, why is it that the only people who use these low IQ leftoid insults are unironically virgins? The only thing you'll ever get from a woman is pepper spray. 

But at least you can know that woman was bad at sports.
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>>15321812 (OP)
NPR is a deep state gov funded agency
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>>15336108
Combat sports have weight classes and men pretending to be women beat the crap out of biological females even though they're both in the same weight class.
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>>15336592
why? a women who trains as much as a man should be as strong as a man that has the same weight class, no? or are there differences in muscle density or something
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>>15336142
women only have rights because men allowed them to have rights. it's impossible for them to refute this
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>>15336617
have you ever met a woman fucking idiot
they are weak
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>>15321812 (OP)
>t. poltard incel troll
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>>15336617
>or are there differences in muscle density or something
Yes. Women are only half as strong as males pound-per-pound, on average. 

If a woman takes large amounts of male hormones, it will help her get close to the strength of her male peers, but never quite equal them. 

Male to female trannies crush all natural women competitors. 

Female to male trannies never get close to defeating their male peer athletes.
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>>15336634
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>>15334948
Nevermind tax shekels. Who in the actual fuck reads this shit and says to themselves "that is a good, entertaining use of my time".
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>>15334425
>I was in the military and I saw female fighter pilots crash into mailboxes
...during high-g manoeuvres?
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>>15321825 
fpbp
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>>15337887
Yes. And you can't question the validity of my lived experience, which is just as believable as any other post here.
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>>15335985
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>>15328657
Tittisumo - the ancient sport of trying force an opponent out of the ring by pressing your heaving, naked bosoms into theirs. Women would have a distinct advantage over men and I guarantee it'd get audience numbers that would rival most professional male athletic competitions.
>Welcome back viewers, if you're just joining us we're now coming up on the long-awaited semi-finals match between the reigning champion from Russia, Masha Rostova and her 35 EEs, and the young up-and-coming American competitor, Daisy Malloy from Arkansas and her 37 GGs. What are our predictions for this match, John?
>Well, Sammantha, Malloy certainly has the obvious size advantage over Rostova, and that's gotten her a lot of momentum in the competition, so far, but never underestimate the importance of technique.
>You're saying size isn't everything?
>That's right, Sammantha, as you and the other members of the committee know all too well.
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>>15338656
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>>15338664
Those are moobs, not titties.
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>>15335999
>lmao this board has truly become pol 2.0.
u wish
/pol/ is a popular influential board with a lot of noteworthy content.
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>>15336043
Power is valuable but not indispensible, especially before the Tiger Woods aftermath changed the average pro golfer from a fat dude smoking a cigar to a ripped athlete. Corey Pavin was famous for having a relatively low driving distance (around the same as Sorenstam's would've been) but still being a top-tier player in roughly the same timeframe.
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>>15339897
also the dick pics
--- 15340176
NPR stopped using their Twitter ever since Musk put the "state sponsored media" tag on it. You'd think they'd be proud to be officially sanctioned by the government of their nation. Anyone have an idea why they're ashamed of that instead?
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>>15340176
>Why would a media outlet be ashamed of being outed as state propaganda?
The whole point of journalism (theoretically) is to hold powerful people and institutions accountable. If all we wanted was regime press releases we have simpler ways to get those.
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>>15340176
Because they dont want to admit they're doing the bidding of the government. 

Also, NPR is labeled as "gov funded media", which they are. They get 1% of direct federal money, plus ~35% of money from member stations who majority of their money from federal CPC funding. In other words, NPR gets ~10% of their funding from federal government. They're proud of it too.
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>>15321812 (OP)
I personally think the superior women are actually men.
Are they really a true woman without a feminine benis?
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>>15336723
t. whyumadtho?
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>>15335999
Don't you trannies ever get tired of posting the same jpg day after day?
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>>15328657
>It does make me wonder if sports could be designed with the female body in mind where they'd have a built in advantage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ylv_YNyxc [Embed]
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>>15324347
>outcomes differences 
that's not even proper english
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>>15341222
Pointing out their illiteracy is also bigotry.
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>>15341207
I generally don't consider anything that relies on judges scoring it to be a real sport. Boxing is sort of an exception but is also very prone to corruption due to that voting. Boxing could be until someone gets knocked out and be able to ditch the scoring.
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>>15341303
yeah, something with judges is more of an art contest than a sport. boxing only has them because the bookies need to have a winner declared to make maximum cash
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NPR is now edited their own wiki page, referencing themselves as a source, to contest the idea that they're state sponsored. However they are not giving back the money or real estate they get from the government nor calling for an end to future funding & gibes.
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>>15341508
lol this is just sad. "Operates independently" yet they receive government funding how is that independent?
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>>15341707
because they have the loudest voice and because non of their commercial competitors want to profit by highlighting this story even though siphoning off npr's audience would be worth a pile of money to them. really makes you wonder if all the major media outlets aren't tightly controlled by an overseeing body rather than the independent operations they claim to be.
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>>15342088
No need for a conspiracy. All journalists are glued to social media, and social media breeds conformity and groupthink by design.
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>>15322172
Please provide researched, sourced and peer-reviewed proof that modern science denial is antisemitism?
Wait...do you actually believe that modern science is a product of an antisemitic conspiracy theory and not just the result of loss of scientific rigor as a side-effect of the rejection of modernism? And then you assume anons here are dogwhistling about that conspiracy theory, then you project about it? Hah, what a fiery but peaceful protest! Wait 'til Twitter hears about that one!
Also, do you realize you are stereotyping Jewish minority folk by implying they are exclusively known for their modern scientific exploits?
>>/pol/, you moronic twat; you obviously don't belong here.
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>>15342122
>social media breeds conformity and groupthink by design.
by who's design? in-q-tel's? do u know what in-q-tel is? u probably never heard of it
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>>15342454
Lurk more.
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>>15342122
>social media breeds conformity and groupthink by design

Nice "social media" there, pics related. 

Too bad your theory doesn't pan out. Its not social media breeding conformity. Its top down elite leadership giving orders. In the particular case, its the US government doing so.
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>>15344261
p2.

The "social media breeds conformity" is nonsense. Its what people say when they either dont understand how information is relayed or that they know how it works and wants to deflect the blame. The source of conformity comes from the elites.
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>>15341508
They're full of shame and trying desperately to hide their lying and duplicity
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>>15342611
What is in-q-tel?
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>>15321812 (OP)
the entire field of developmental biology, entire genes in men that promote larger muscle mass and size development, thicker bone structure, larger vocal chords, actual quanitifiable differences that we know are linked to genes specific to men and women.
Like how do people even deny this shit, its like x and y chromosomes mean nothing, because some outlier freaks exist.
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>>15322070
Scientists deny all evidence that isn't (((peer reviewed))). They're incapable of reason.
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>>15350033
Most female athletes want to compete against each other. Not against a failed male.
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>>15321812 (OP)
modern science is filled with nothing but double standards that contradict each other
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>>15335999
Kys
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>>15352375
someone who makes the same repost over and over and over again is already dead on the inside
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>>15334948
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>>15344261
>>15344271
that twitter files stuff got swept under the rug real fast, happened in december & its already buried in the memory hole. 
meanwhile the same people who were moderating twitter are still working there and still running all the other social media sites too, including 4chan
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>>15353397
Twitter went from 7800 employees to ~1500 employees. -80%. Its not "the same" people. "The same" people you are thinking of were fired/quit.

Also it didnt get swept under the rug, it just wasn't covered by MSM because it implicated those media as a tool for state censorship propaganda. It not only implicates the MSM as tools for censorship, but these people dont see anything wrong with it.
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>>15336249
What stops the pro female athletes from entering the men’s competitions? There’s literally nothing stopping them, it’s entirely open and not actually only for men. Fuck you’re dumb.
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>>15336249
>so the talent pool becomes much smaller
If men and women are the same, the distribution of women's pool should be the same as the men's pool. So if there are 10 times more male athletes than female athletes, you'd expect to see females make about 10 % of the world records.
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>>15353695
right, that twitter files stuff got swept under the rug real fast, happened in december & its already buried in the memory hole.
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>>15353695
>>15354570
Again, you're just not paying attention. Its still a current thing. Your usual sources refuse to cover it for reasons stated above. But the congress and other side of the party is still active in discussion and legal activities(multiple lawsuits filed).
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>>15350542
No, academic journals do. Scientists read preprints pretty regularly because no one wants to wait a year to read their colleagues papers
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>>15354605
the new congress has been in session for 100 days without accomplishing anything, by the end of summer they'll be saying "election year coming up, we can't do anything controversial now" and they'll hold the ball and run out the clock in order to maintain the corrupt status quo
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>>15355958
Its just the tip of the iceberg for actual law, the current investigation is leading to a much deeper host of issues across the industry. There's a reason why its taking so long, its a huge system built up over the decade.
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>>15354605
>Your usual sources refuse to cover it
swept under the rug
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>>15336723
This is a science thread, if you want to chimp out over politics >>>/pol/