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Leaving the West general thread.(continued)

I live in the USA, how do i get out of this corrupt shit-hole for greener pastures?
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>>2383763 (OP)
There is none quit being a pussy and do what you can to fix it
>B-but I'm a rootless cosmopolitan who's never stood up for anything in my life and runs from hardship
Quit bein a pussy. It'll be good for you
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By making this thread over and over and over while you seethe in mommy's basement waiting for your dad to get home with his cigarettes
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I think we've got a flight risk. Don't let him escape.
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>>2384528
>>2384549
>>2385916
Seethe more, the west is dead and cucked whites killed it. The only joy I get is seeing arrogant boomers reap the world they sowed by spoiling their daughters. Men dropping out, shitskins raping their snow bunnies, society crumbling, rents rising, homeless, droves of shitskins. It’s glorious, the collapse can’t come any sooner.
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>>2385961
jews arent white pal
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>>2384528
Yes, try to fix it, at the same time as every jackass around you tries to destroy it to line their pocketbook.
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>>2385961
>Wah wah wah daddy wouldn't buy me a pony wah I'm leaving and not coming back 

Buy Felicia
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Boomers ITT are seething because they want to trap us with their pet niggers to pay their pensions.
Time to fuck off to greener pastures and leave the boomers to beaten by niggers like they so deserve
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>>2387766
>Felicia 
You're replying to a chink
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>>2385961
You are the cucked white moron you aren't doing shit but seething online and then leaving without a fight lmao
>There's no hope that's definitely why I'm leaving and not my lack of balls and testosterone
Like I said. Bitchmade.
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>>2387762
Welcome to the world are you new here? It's been like this for thousands of years and yet the world still got better sometimes. You should quit making excuses and take a look at yourself. You can't fix a problem if you don't think there is one
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>>2383763 (OP)
move to albania, 1 year visa free and you can get residency by just buying some real estate. been there a couple of times, it's extraordinarily cheap, has beautiful nature and has great weather
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>>2388613
>1 year visa free and you can get residency by just buying some real estate.
woah that's like a hack, aren't you a full EU citizen at that point??
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>>2388613
That does sound pretty good. What's the catch?
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>>2389287
>Albania
>EU
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>>2390330
apparently it might be soon
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>>2383763 (OP)
>corrupt shit-hole 
That is most of the world anon, thanks in part to CIA meddling.
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RIP GASM . A real Detroit king
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>>2385961
I'm an American conservative but I don't see why others are always doom and gloom like this. I live in a Democrat run minority majority city. The crime rate is high, and I don't like that, but frankly it doesn't really impact me all that much since I live in an upscale, secure building and I'm not out at the club at 4am looking for trouble. Other than that, most of the nonsense I see is just online babble. People in the real world don't behave like internet SJW and no one bothers me for being an unapologetic straight white male. I have a loving family, a good job, and I look forward to waking up every day. Most of my IRL friends are like this too and living good happy productive lives. I feel like we're living on another planet from these internet 'conservative' harbingers of the apocalypse. We have an idiot senile president and some terrible folks in office. Work to change that, but don't pretend the USA is like living in Haiti or Brazil when it's a damn fine country and still a great place to be all things considered.
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>>2390501
>it's great here I just have to stay locked up inside my compound because of the violent crime
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>>2390526
I already said the crime is high. the violet crime here was higher 30, 50, and 70 years ago so it's nothing new the way you doomers make it sound. Obviously I won't raise my kids in this neighborhood, but it's a good location for now for my career. If I just go 20 miles away to the suburbs it turns into a 0 crime area anyway.
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>>2390501
If you don’t see the writing on the walls you are incredibly sheltered living on the tailcoats of boomer economy and their suburbs but you already admit that. All the signs are pointing to the end result of hyper inflation, not a matter of if but when. And until then seeing boomers reap the results of the sexual revolution and neoliberalism will be fucking glorious. But escape anyways because the WEF will try to trigger the controlled collapse and install their own dictator instead of a right wing one which always happens in times of collapse
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>>2390850
>be millenial 
>Born into richest country in the world 
>Born to boomers, the best generation in history.
>Have unnatural long life thanks to modern medicine.
>Be the greatest recipients of the fiat money printing wave. Any bitcoin you bought during your early years increased in value 400,000%
>Enjoy anal sex, weed and avocado toast.
>Live free in mommy's basement.
>Be in power since the mid 2000's since the obama era and steal wealth from boomers.
>export all the manufacturing jobs to china 
>import millions of third world workers to compete with boomers because you refuse to work.
>kys because ywnbaw, leave earth and your kin with lower standard of living that you enjoyed.
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>>2390856
Jesus christ this is the most delusional shit I have read in a while. Are you okay man? Meds wearing off?
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Anon, why not just call the repair man?
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>>2390664
Coping intensifies
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>>2390501
> Fed trying to de-escalate
By being part of the social media population control machine, you destroy your own live-basis, the population which could fight the elites, for your own little extra-earning, that won't get you anything, once they have enough control and will get rid of every non-elite.
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>>2390501
That's all fine and Dandy until you get stabbed walking home with a pizza Jason.
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>>2387766
How much is she?
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>>2390526
Yes, put on the bulletproof vest when I leave. Everything is fine.
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>>2390856
>Born to boomers, the best generation in history.
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>>2392107
>he unironically thinks feds are everywhere
Are they in the room right now
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There are tons and tons and tons of places to escape to.
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>>2390501
Because they're incel shut-ins that base their worldview around /pol/ memes instead of actually interacting with their surroundings. I've seen people from fucking BRAZIL posting about how dangerous Paris is
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Quit your job and travel the world.
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>>2390856
Found the boomer kek. No one’s paying your pension buddy boyo.
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>>2390501
>>2390664
>>2390856
Holy kek my sides. Boomers literally sold out their entire countries for short term gains to fund their frumpy wives kitchen remodel. No one is too lazy to work retard that’s just neoliberal propaganda, wages are shit because of overcompetition. Boomers literally started this trend and we are on a race to the bottom. They gave their daughters everything because they are weak cucks and simps and now their sons see the writing on the wall and refuse to contribute anymore than they need. Heed this warning anons, take your money and go somewhere you can live a good and hassle free life. Let these boomers reap the world they sowed
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Yeah op I agree
The older I get the more I realize I have to escape nigger hell so my descendants have a chance at a good life
Asia seems like the only option
Or maybe east Europe
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>>2385976
Not him. And they are.
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>>2395242
Where picrel?

>>2395412
Rent free.
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>>2395412
Yeah I'm hoping I can get remote work to move to Asia. Eastern Europe is fucked because of the European Union, also aggressive NATO expansion as seen in Ukraine.
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>>2395480
That looks like Chongqing.
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>>2395412
Istanbul probably wouldn't be bad either if you can stand roaches. Turkey has a citizenship by investment program and you can purchase real estate there.
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>>2390316
>>2389287
>>2388613
>Hell yea were gonna escape the corrupt west!
>By going to Albania
We need to make iq tests to use the internet
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Head South anon, you could do worse.
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>>2384528
Your larp post, let me explain,
I actually was trying to fix things.
Did all my civic duties and then some.
But hte problem is, most of America is just on cruise control until the weekend and nigger football league comes on. 
I kept thinking I would work harder and isolate myself more via property and still "contribute" and try and make things better.
 
See the problem is, we are to the point that "fixing" things will require aggressive posture now. I would be quite OK with this had my community have my and others back while we do the hard work they won't let the cops do.
RED FLAGS--RED FLAGS -- RED FLAGS
ABANDON PLAN ANBD GET OUT

A month ago I found the raw stats for vaccinations in me county. 
My age group? 87% vaxxed
Overall? 77% vaxxed in my state.

NO ONE is going to jury nullify guys "fixing shit". The jury pool would literally be 80% conformists. 80% who can't figure out how to stand together against threats foregin AND domestic.

So please do tell me to "fix shit". 
What you are really saying is go to prison for the rest of your life for an un-grateful, nigger centric society.

No. I'm taking my wealth, skills, and talent and finding a place that wants to Galt the shit out of a country. Pipedream, I know so I am looking for the least amount of government.

South America is on the short list now. Europe can eat a bag of dicks.
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>>2395666
don't listen to satan, Istanbul sucks now, full of arabs and north africans, go somewhere more chuddy and homogenous like east asia maybe
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More like leaving the east and the west. The whole planet has been le pooped on.
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>>2385961
Praying this is a larp post. No one is this retarded and involuntarily celibate lmao
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>>2383763 (OP)
The United States really isn't that bad. You need to travel around more, the USA has a lot of really nice places to visit; what you're seeing is just a reflection of you have going on within yourself. You'll land in Europe and the first thing you'll think, "Oh my god.. it's ruined! It's happening here too!"

When really, the average person is just minding their own business & going about their own day. Clear up whatever mess you have going on within yourself, and drop the prejudices. Otherwise every place you go to won't ignite that feeling you're looking for.
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It's a shitty country run by a modernized version of the Nazi's. You might be able to leave, but it's doubtful you'll get yourself out of the 'system,' their surveillance is global.
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The Devil is everywhere, not just the USA. Although that seems to be where he has the most followers.
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>>2390501
>but don't pretend the USA is like living in Haiti or Brazil
but my city has already gotten somalian drops
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>>2383763 (OP)
>Rent a dirt cheap appartement outside of big cities
>save money
>profit
It is that simple retard
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>>2392087
The U.S. does indeed stink.

It smells of Shit.
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Well if that were me, I would get myself to the border and fight my way through, guns ablazing if need be.
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Any advice for the best countries to go to for been a DN in Europe? Hate beach's and humid environments. Want somewhere low crime, like to be able to feel safe in where im living.

Im currently earning 5000 AUD, or 3500 USD a month as a programmer and online teacher. Could easily move my work to another country. Where should I go?
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Clownmerica. 
Find a country where people are more grown up.
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>>2395696
Corruption is good if it's available to the common man since it bypasses unnecessary bureaucracy, and I didn't even notice any bad corruption when I was there. Every interaction I had was friendly despite the language barrier
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>>2401028
>dirt cheap
>still hundreds of dollars a month
nah, move to the balkans and pay tens of dollars a month
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>>2383763 (OP)
where you going tho
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>>2383763 (OP)
US isn't that bad, sure its spawned the degenerates that inhabit this board but because of this wealth and decency we can enjoy the fulfilment of le sex tourism.
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>>2405446
I couldn't renew my drivers license in Oregon during the lockdowns because govt offices shut down, now I need to borrow someone's car to take the test when I don't know anyone here.

I wish I could bribe a sheriff to get a DL.
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>>2405812
Don't get me started on the traffic in this country.
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>>2390501
well the ukraine war exposed pretty convincingly 4chan in particular is a major target for the steppe zigger and chink demoralization propaganda campaigns. Entire fucking /pol/ got ousted as leftypols sister site in the beginning months.

 The shitstains like OP you see here whining are either one of the turdies jealous of the developed world or one of the local feeble minded that got hijacked by the unironic state driven propaganda

 mind you with tight media control back home dictatorships serfs are not allowed to talk how shit local conditions truely are. Like the african tier development level of Russia or the obnoxious pollution of China. So feeble minded get easily fooled since they never hear how okay things are in the developed world and how bad it can really get. Thus draw the conclusion that USA is the worst place on the planet whenever some chink from Chingchongistan posts pics about detroit slums.
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Everyone knows westerners are a bunch of thieves and scoundrels.
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>>2390501
the pentagon has tapes of iraqi guards in abu girab ass raping boys , filmed by a female usa intelligence agent or soldier and used as blackmail to get information from terrorists who half the time werent even terrorists but an unlucky cab driver
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are we still doing these stupid fucking threads
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>>2410084
Seethe more
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>>2407318
These teen actors are too white to pretend to be from Detroit.
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>>2390501
People like to blame their miserable lives on something they can't control so they don't have to look inward. 

I live a great life in the USA and I haven't been anywhere I'd rather live. I make 97k working from home about 20hrs a week and I never tried hard in school or had rich parents. Wife makes 150k working from home and cooks all my meals, we split a lot of the house duties like a happy couple so neither of us have to do shit we hate doing. we'll have over 1M networth before I'm 40. Not huge but it will climb exponentially until I retire and we can move anywhere if we want. 

I see homeless people and graffiti driving around sometimes. I don't interact with them, but it bugs me. I don't let it ruin my day, I keep it quiet to myself that I hope they die soon.
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>>2409946
>cab drivers being extrajudicially imprisoned and tortured
Kind of ok with this desu
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>>2390501
Because people on /pol/ are the absolute biggest losers you will ever meet. they have no life and think that whatever is posted here is 100 percent true. After awhile of reading that stuff over and over and over, while simultaneously never going outside or having real friends, or even family that talk to them; it breaks their mind. Slowly they start falling for Russian propaganda and think that if they were living there, somehow all their problems would go away and they would suddenly be a Chad.
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Maybe you can find peace in a different Country, there is not much peace in this world though.
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>>2409946
Gross
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>>2407318
You forget to mention that the United States has the worst women in the world, the most depressing architecture, and food with chemicals outlawed in most other countries though. Also a multitude of absurd humiliation rituals and a very high COL if you want to live anywhere bearable. Also much higher levels of violent crime, drug use, and homelessness compared to other developed countries.
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>>2390501
I have lived in liberal and conservative areas. The liberal areas are miserable, and full of spiteful selfish antisocial people. They find reasons to hate each other. Because of no community you have high rates of mental illness and people doing desperate things to find a sense of belonging (drugs, tranny, feminist, LGBT)
Conservatives find reasons to get along, and overall are more community-based and social. I never want to live around liberal scum again.
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I usually hate these milquetoast threads, but after today, I realize that if my path out of the west isn't through the military, then I'm going to find some academy to get a skill and GTFO. I can't be here forever man. Somebody will get packed up eventually.
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20 PLACES WESTERNERS CAN GO TO ESCAPE GLOBOHOMO 

1. Taiwan
2. Thailand
3. Georgia (the country)
4. Poland
5. Romania
6. Albania
7. Serbia
8. Cambodia
9. The Phillipines
10. Turkey
11. The UAE
12. India
13. Kenya
14. Finland
15. Kazakhstan
16. Indonesia
17. Malaysia
18. Saint Kitts and Nevis
19. Jamaica
20. Iceland
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>>2415586
How long will it take these faggots to ruin all of them though?
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>>2383763 (OP)
Bump. 

i am sort of in this boat. Although, global stability being what it is, I don't know if abandoning all U.S. infrastructure is a strategically sound choice. 

I personally was looking forward to establishing a presence in Hungary, but the war is affecting that choice. I am really close to making over 100k a year with my company, and I am setting it up with employees to run without my daily presence. 

I want children and I want to live an existence that is fulfilling. The U.S. is a niggerfied cultural wasteland. 

The Philippines seems like a good place have a side family. What is the cost to maintain them with a good standard of living?
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western cape separatism is kinda your best bet. honestly though, america is mostly fine.
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>>2383763 (OP)
Sorry anon, this is as good as it gets.
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>>2415810
We are talking about white Westerners that hate globohomo and marxism. What exactly do you think we would do to "ruin" those places? Keep in mind too that our money goes really far in most of the countries I listed.
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>>2416107
What could possibly go wrong having F&F hype their audience of sociopath PUAsimps, mouth breathing black normies, and jeets with all with American purchasing power? They already completely ruined Colombia basically overnight lmao.
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>>2416087
>I don't know if abandoning all U.S. infrastructure is a strategically sound choice.
Based take. You're in a position to where you could fund and provide aid to anti-globohomo causes in the West from the safety of another country. Living outside of your country and abandoning it are two different things.
>I am really close to making over 100k a year with my company
Fucking incredibly based, that's badass anon.
>The Philippines seems like a good place have a side family. What is the cost to maintain them with a good standard of living?
With your money it would be pocket change to you. You could have 5 families in the Phillipines if you wanted to.
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>>2416115
>Fucking incredibly based, that's badass anon.

thanks dude. i started a company with a couple thousand dollars and a friend in 2016. I have evolved into using industrial machinery. I survived covid because all my supplies are domestic from the U.S. I would be better off if COVID did ass rape the cost of warehouse space. 

> You could have 5 families in the Phillipines if you wanted to.

>The average salary in the Philippines was PHP 161,847.60/year ($3,218).
>The median salary in the Philippines was PHP 655,200/year ($12,955).

interesting. does $1,000 a month get you some degree of loyalty and respect?
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>>2416110
Black normie tourists and similiar types of degenerates do not know how to properly invest and thus will blow all of their money. This thread isn't about dumb tourists, it's about actual Westerners that want to move to and live in other countries to get away from such degeneracy.
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>>2390501
>yeah bro as long as we just vote out our president the country will be fixed!! 
>just work to change that!
lmao
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>>2416117
>does $1,000 a month get you some degree of loyalty and respect?
It would definitly make a Phillipino woman very very happy kek. My understanding is that the fact that you are a hardworking, sucessful man will gain you respect in the Phillipines as they have not been cucked by feminism.
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>>2390501
I know plenty of conservatives that live in Libtard states and all of them hate it and complain about it constantly.
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>>2416123
This, what happens once the older generations die off and all that's left are deranged millenial and Gen Z communists? Even if Trump wins in 2024 we are still fucked, and now is the perfect time to leave while the dollar still has value.
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>>2416121
Yes, they invest their money into showering it on dumb sluts and make the women of whatever country they go to as terrible and demanding as American women over time, thus completely destroying the country.
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>>2416087
>The Philippines seems like a good place have a side family. What is the cost to maintain them with a good standard of living?
Come impregnate a filipina and start a neighborhood with me. 

t.moved to philippines last year
AMA
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>>2404130
What sort of online teaching do you do? ESL?
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>>2416380
How do you make a living?
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>>2415586
>Romania
>India
>Kenya
Lol. Lmao
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>>2384528
>this is how the based anti-establishment Westerners treat you
And you wonder why we're done. Even if the psychos running the country are ousted, there's zero chance the boomers, conservatives, and people like you are going to spend even a second thinking about making my life better. You'll immediately revert to the same boo hoo solve your own problems crap we already hear. My life is not yours to spend. But by all means, continue trying to tan in the setting sun.
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>>2416162
>Yes, they invest their money into showering it on dumb sluts
Buying hookers you mean? That's still putting money into the economies of those countries. Countries can also just ban prostitution if their people dislike it.
>and make the women of whatever country they go to as terrible and demanding as American women over time
I've never heard of this happening anywhere. If anything I've heard people such as yourself complain about Americans.
>thus completely destroying the country
PFFFFFFFFFFT ok, you need take a break from the internet.
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If the USA is a corrupt shithole, then so is every other country on Earth. You will see far more corruption, degradation and retarded urban planning in the developing world. But food and accomodations are far more unique and attractive, provided by real human owner/operators instead of mega corporation employee robots.
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>>2416929
Maybe the US is just more corrupt than other countries.
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>>2416933
Maybe it's because we're the only country that matters on the planet. People love to hate us cause they'd love to be us.
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Funny how Americans who never left their country thinks its better somewhere else. Not a single nigger here mention any country yeah I wonder why. Maybe post your list next time OP so we can make fun of you.
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>>2416929
Anon, every country is corrupt. The only difference is that you can afford the corruption in other countries. At home you're the equivalent of the third-world peasant who's priced out of the bribes lawyers, landowners, and army colonels use to get VIP treatment.
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>>2416920
This isn’t about guys that fuck hookers, but puasimps that watch F&F and think they are above that, but find a way to pay the same women more money because they’re so alpha bro. They base their entire life around dancing like a monkey for women because in American culture it is impossible to have any validation that is not via women’s approval. Everyone has said that these guys completely ruined Colombia.
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>>2389287
>1 year visa free and you can get residency by just buying some real estate.
>woah that's like a hack, aren't you a full EU citizen at that point??
Sorry for taking bait, if I have just taken bait, but a) residency is not the same thing as citizenship; and b) Albania is still a lot of years away from getting into the EU. Serbia and Montenegro are likely to make it in sooner, but even they have lots of weird Balkan mess to clean up before they can be seamlessly integrated into the EU’s unique and uniform species of mess.

Regarding residency vs. citizenship, there are multiple residency programs that will get you into actual EU countries (Portugal and Italy have some of the easier ones, and I think there’s a new one in Spain), but none of them offer the freedom of movement that is available to actual citizens. Permanent non-citizen residents in Portugal or Italy don’t have the automatic right to live/work in France, etc. It’s the same when a rich expat from the US or Canada gets residency in a European country for their job—it doesn’t come with the right to live or work in any other country.

>t. American permanent resident in Europe
>Do not have the right to move to another country
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>>2417146
>puasimps that watch F&F
I don't understand what that means
>ecause in American culture it is impossible to have any validation that is not via women’s approval
I'm an American and I believe women should not have the right to vote.
>Everyone has said that these guys completely ruined Colombia.
Who is everyone? You're making the claim that an entire country is ruined because a handful of faggots showed up and paid for pussy. That's absurd, just tell the Columbians you know to beat up some tourists and slap their women more.
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>>2417027
Taiwan, Switzerland, Finland, Austria, Hungary, Poland, South Korea, and Japan are all countries that are superior to most US states. The United States is clearly going down hill, just compare how things are now to how they were 20-30 years ago. Getting out early is smart because the dollar still has value right now.
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>>2416589
Your money goes way further there and those countries will not be shitholes for long. Their economies have been growing at a steady rate and you could definitly make a profit if you purchased real estate in the less wealtht places I listed. In Turkey you can even gain citizenship by investing in real estate which gives you a second passport. Think about that.
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>>2415586
>>2416589
>>2417395
Nairobi sounds pretty good, I'm visiting there this summer.

Also idk what you mean by "globohomo", but I'd add Japan to the list purely due to a deflationist housing market and cheap COL (even in Tokyo but especially outside of it). I'm actually moving there in September; I can't stand the insane food prices and insane housing prices here in Canada. (This is from a Canadian standpoint; maybe housing and food is cheaper in your neck of the woods, but compared to Canadian metro areas Japan is considerably cheaper in all aspects).
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USA still the best in the west
USA > Canada > Australia > Japan > Europe
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>>2417459
>USA
Recently had a presidential election rigged by criminals. The people therr are obsessed with race and gender.
>Canada
Stripped rights away from anybody who didn't get vaccinated. Throws people in jail for saying mundane things like "there are only two genders".
>Australia
Threw unvaccinated people in camps. Also imprisons people for "hate speech" just like Canada does.
>Japan
Yes
>Europe
Which countries? Eastern Europe or Western Europe?
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>>2416445
>How do you make a living?
Remote software engineer. also held 200 ETH at one point
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>>2417464
USA is the only Western country where it is possible for someone to accumulate wealth and be successful try doing that in Canada or Europe where the wages are low and the tax rate is high. Germans make as much as minimum wage workers in the US because the tax rate is so high but Germany is more expensive than the USA. 
Censorship and government control is worse outside of the USA since states have more rights. EU and Canada are the WEF testing grounds, probably the first areas to be forced to eat bugs.
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>>2383763 (OP)
You stupid fuck, I'm trying to move TO the US. You fucks have no clue how good you have it, and how free you really are.
>t. leaf
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>>2417161
>residency is not the same thing as citizenship
no fucking shit, Sherlock>>2417161
>Albania is still a lot of years away from getting into the EU
why would you want to be a subject of the EU?
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>>2415586
>The UAE
anon, I...
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>>2417474
Germany is not more expensive than the US retard.
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>>2417561
>why would you want to be a subject of the EU?
I mostly wouldn’t, apart from appreciating the prospect of free movement within the Union; it would make me more competitive for European jobs and offer me greater flexibility as to where I could live. I enjoy many things in Europe (among other places). 

But my post was simply specifically responding to a (perhaps trolling) comment about how residence in Albania was essentially the same as EU citizenship. They’re extremely different, as you know. I wasn’t advocating for anything, just correcting someone being wrong on the Internet.

It’s all off topic anyhow; this shit thread is about escaping “the West,” so moving to the EU wouldn’t cut it. Albania might, actually—it’s only barely Europe, whatever the maps say.
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>>2417572
>Germany is not more expensive than the US retard.

This. Food and housing are cheaper, higher/professional education and medical care are much cheaper (OTC drugs can be more expensive, though, with a slightly more limited range available). 

Anything to do with driving (cars, fuel, insurance) is more expensive, and some consumer products may be slightly more expensive (household appliances and some electronics come to mind), but overall COL in Germany is at least a little lower than the US unless you’re comparing it to the very cheapest parts of the States, which seldom have much to offer anyway.

>t. American who lives on the German border and shops there a lot
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>>2417474
>USA is the only Western country where it is possible for someone to accumulate wealth and be successful
That's not true at all.
>try doing that in Canada or Europe where the wages are low and the tax rate is high
There are countries outside of the West that are literally tax havens. Why would I move into a shitty race-obsessed Western country that will go full on 1984 in 20 years?
>Censorship and government control is worse outside of the USA since states have more rights
Believe it or not there are countries that don't give a fuck about what you say or do. In the United States you might have constitutional rights but there are many places where the police will tailgait you until they find some bullshit reason to pull you over. That's why people call the US a police state.
>EU and Canada are the WEF testing grounds
Right, and we're next. That is why I am leaving the USA.
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It's not even greener pastures I just genuinely don't like American people or culture. Everyone's the hapless descendant of some slave Scotch Irish or African and all cultural reference points revolve around pornographic corporate smart phone applications.
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>>2417528
America isn't much better than Canada, but I will admit it is better. It does have its own problems, though. Enough so that I would never consider moving there.

Moving out of Canada still though, just not to the US.

t. Leaf
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I just want to escape all the migrants (especially blacks). I am a citizen or Canada and the UK, so I'm basically fucked as these countries will both ramp up African immigration. If the UK didn't leave the EU I would have went to Central/Eastern Europe but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, the faggots decided to leave. So now I'm stuck in these two migrant dystopias.
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>>2417826
This. I don’t know if there is anywhere in the world that has the same level of dull soulessness and extreme boredom mixed with existential dread. Also most young people especially women are even more insufferable.
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>>2383763 (OP)
East Coast posting. Head out to the rural west fag.
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>lived here for 6 months
>clean streets not filled with fucking shit or syringes 
>no niggers 
>no beaners
>no fags/trannies everywhere
>no tents full of crazy people
>somehow labeled a 3rd world shithole while America is a 1st world prosperous nation
Not even going to bother telling you where I live since you idiots don't know anything beyond your borders.
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>>2418208
No need to tell, that's most of the world outside a few select cities in America.
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>>2418208
That could apply to a lot of countries. Americans are so fucking dumb putting up with what shit their "1st world" country flings at them.
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>>2418221
Right. There's the excuses about a few nice areas still existing if you just look hard enough, or labeling other countries as worse. These are only coming from those who are terribly sour minded. 

They would have us believe that no matter how bad it is here, as long as some other country can be found where life is worse, even if that country is a literal toxic waste land, then we should celebrate. 
I cannot wrap my mind around the logic failures of some of these people, and can only conclude that these people have just given up.
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>>2418045
Dude, fuck off. I was born in the UK went back to my home city and I remember going on a bus all you hear is fucking Polish and Italian. It's the same shit all the locals are GONE. I don't care if the replacements are white, my ancestors did not fight in wars for worthless slavs to steal it.

>>2418208
All of this applies to Canada, especially Vancouver x10. Except throw in chinks and pajeets alongside the spics and niggers.
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>>2418208
Okay, where do you live?
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>>2418345
กรุงเทพ
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>>2418242
Other Europeans are infinitely better than non-Europeans. 
Did you vote for Brexit? If so you have caused me to be stuck in these two shitholes.
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>>2418358
How do you cope with the fact that everyone thinks you're a sex-pest?
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>>2383763 (OP)
I own 20 acres outside Des Moines, I don't need to leave.
>b-but walkable cities!
I can drive 20 minutes south and not see a single business.
>Fly over!
I know.
>No job opportunities, and you can't get real coffee
I make $60k, peanuts to New York but I live extremely comfortably here. I can drive 15 min to a yuppie cafe downtown that isn't goybucks.

You can have this life too, anon. 10k an acre, which is rather pricey, but shop around and check auctions. Wait for mom and dad to die, or move out of whatever shithole you likely pay way too much for and enjoy the ghetto life for a few years while raking in that dough. Maybe that ghetto will be full of people like you, and become a rather nice gentrified area in time, where you won't have to leave.
Also no where else in the world is this good if you don't have marketable skills or fuck-you money. Good luck enjoying any quality of life in Europe or Asia if you can't practice medicine or work for a multinational conglomerate.
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>>2418434
By not giving a fuck.
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>>2418434
NTA but the internet causes people to overestimate how much criticism they're going to get. You know how being abrasive and demanding can actually be good for your career compared to being the quiet workhorse because you'll be noticed more and people who ask are more likely to receive? That applies to life as a whole. If you just come across as an energetic person, even a party animal, people will like you more for it. It's not like you have to go around telling everyone you're there exclusively to creampie teenage boys.
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>waaaaagh I'm a doomer gloomer who can't stop obsessing about trannies and black dicks
>Global homos have ruined my life
,>I know, I'm going to move to le heckin based russia, that will sort me out
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>>2417528
>You stupid fuck, I'm trying to move TO the US. You fucks have no clue how good you have it, and how free you really are.
Oh don't worry. I know I still had it much better than cucked leafs
I moved to southeast asia with a $230k/year remote job.
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>>2384528
Your ancestors did this
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>>2418482
I moved away from niggers and my life significantly improved. Next I shall move away from globohomo. Bye!
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>>2418482
USA has the nicest trannies with the biggest blackest cocks. Heaven on Earth for the chud.
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>>2419885

The global homos WILL find you and they WILL turn you into a homo. You can't run away from it.
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>>2419888
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the thing about leaving the US is that after you visit enough countries, you start to realize this is one of the only non-shithole places on earth. there's a reason most of the rest of the world would kill to live here. your best bet is to move to a state with a majority white population and buy some land. if you actually care about improving your place of residence after that point, get involved with local government
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>>2417565
It has minimal taxes and some jobs will pay you extra to work there if you just want to maximize consooming in a super suburb. But it really doesn't seem worth it.
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>>2383763 (OP)
The sad, terrible news is, where ever you go, there you are. You can't run away from you, and your post screams that your problem is who you are, not where you are.
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>>2411007
That's because they're not trying to that video is from Russia Ztard
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>>2395666
>purchase real estate in turkey. 
Yeah I hear there are a lot of cheap lots for sale now.
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>>2419952
>your best bet is to move to a state with a majority white population and buy some land.
Any recommendations?
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>>2385961
Yeah, but those same Boomers made that society in order to destroy it. You are coping. Claiming something is fucked is an excuse not to do anything, and even an excuse to act like a jackass.
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>>2417035
I'd never thought of it that way, but you're right that "anti-corruption" is the raising of corruption's price floor
There's also a level of power where states just need to woo you to the extent that they simply won't make problems, will make accommodations etc., which I don't think would even be corruption in most definitions. Just swanning above the world.
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>>2418223
>Americans have given up.
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can i just buy a one way ticket to europe from america and stay there with no prior paperwork? maybe become a asylum seeker/refugee? maybe get some free housing or something?
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>>2420931
>can i just buy a one way ticket to europe from america and stay there with no prior paperwork? 
Depends on where in Europe. But for the Schengen area (most of EU plus a couple of non-EU countries—the bits of Europe that share border control), you’re welcome to do that for up to 90 days without incident. You can get longer than that in some places that are still technically Europe (six months in the UK, up to a year in Albania, and although I think there are forms to fill out in Albania to get a full year, you don’t have to do it in advance).
>maybe become a asylum seeker/refugee? 
Oh, look, it’s this again. Your stupidity dissected in detail below because I have the time.
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>>2420971
Asylum seekers and refugees are legally totally different. You have no chance of ever qualifying as a refugee, because that requires forced displacement, which is not taking place out of the US. If the new civil war that /pol/ likes to jerk off fantasizing about were actually to break out and your house got bombed you might have a shot, but I wouldn’t count on it. Asylum status is a lot more nuanced, but you might get a few months in the system if you could make a credible case that your life was politically endangered. Which it isn’t, obviously, but there’s a backlog, so it might take authorities a while to prove that you’re full of shit and deport you.
>maybe get some free housing or something?
People get a hell of a lot less than /pol/ fantasizes that they do. In most countries you get put in a camp or locked up detention center while you get processed, if you don’t have any money (it’s also possible to come in and stay wherever you can on your own dime while doing the paperwork). Nobody “gives” you a normal apartment until your status is approved, and even then it’s not free, nor does it typically come from the government, because there’s a shortage of ‘social housing’ everywhere (you’ll probably have to con an amalgamation of private charities and NGOs while conning the government simultaneously to get the shitty cheap digs some refugees get).

Note that to make this work in Europe you have to make sure that you can get directly to wherever you hope to apply, without passing through anywhere that would be considered a safe third country. If you were to attempt to fly to Sweden via a transfer in Frankfurt, for example, the Swedes would reject you and deport you back to Germany to try your luck there.
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>>2388613
I have a few friends who fell into money and are doing this.
It sounds rad as shit honestly, they live in villas, they rent them out to rich people as Albania is basically cheap greece/croatia and it's tourism is starting to skyrocket.
I went with one of them to the Albanian embassy here in london though and l m a o. You know Flight of the Conchords and Murrays office is the NZ embassy with those shitty posters on the wall like "NZ... Rocks!" with a picture of some rocks? That is exactly what the Albanian embassy is like. 

>>2383763 (OP)
I really want to do white monkey jobs in China if they still exist. I'm also not a butthurt Western supremacist like Serpentza and Laowhy so I would happily do it.
Getting flown around to be a white guy and sit in suits, while then getting paid to get "massages" on business trips. Fuck yeah.
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>>2415586
>20 places and not one of them is my country that's 99% white, great quality of food, drinkable tap water, culture that goes back thousands of years, well-balanced climate, still easy to live like a king on a minimal Western wage 
Good.
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>>2390856
Unemployment rate at 3.6% nigga.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE
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>>2415586
But these are the countries that don't accept Bitcoin so the value of crypto is worthless to them. Then do your best to "escape" before the petrodollar collapses because nobody in those countries want white people. They will accept probably just white girls who are willing to work as prostitutes.
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>>2395242
But what about money to travel?
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>>2421312
That's of people looking for work, 30% of the labor force has checked out which isn't counted in that statistic
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>be me
>get good stable job in a shit city
>pass different shops and cafes on my way to work
>notice one has boarded up its door
>office I work at is starting to effect a fence and gate around the building

I just applied to an ALT position in Japan. If I take this, I won't be making even a third as much as I do now.
Am I retarded?
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>>2411488
>Russian propaganda
What was your take after they found out that the "Trump is a Russian plant" thing came directly from Hilary's lawyer? inb4 omg trump supporter, incel chud blah blah, I'm genuinely curious how your unbroken mind sees this ubiquitous yet completely undefinable Russian propaganda. Is it in the room with us right now?
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>>2395480
Nigger
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>>2417404
>I'm actually moving there in September
How? Job? Citizenship by descent? Japan seems to be locked down as far as emigration is concerned.
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>>2421674
>locked down
Where'd you get that from? If you've got a job, they can get you a visa
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>>2421672
Rent free. Lmao.
--- 2422945
So what is the timeframe for when America's abuse of its reserve currency status and the petrodollar going to catch up with it? If the dollar becomes worthless, you can't just retire - you want somewhere nice to live and work.
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>>2422945

At least 50 years. The happeningooners will tell you the shit is about to collapse every day until they’re eventually right but right now we’re just riding out the boom bust cycle while the (boogeymen) consolidate power and steal wealth from everyone else. They’re going to steal all of Russia’s natural resources next
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>>2422951
An empire can have a pretty long half-life, just look at the UK, who BTFO'd themselves by 1945, but people still want to move there.
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>>2383763 (OP)
i've been living in serbia and montenegro for a bit. it's been life changing. still have to come back for family but otherwise im outta here
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>>2417528
Listen leaf bro the US is better not gonna lie but don’t do it your jumping out of the frying pan into the slightly less hot frying pan. 

Figure out how to get off the stove entirely
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Americans on here acting as if they suffer. Americans have life on easy mode. Where else in the world is better? Police state Canada or Australia? Europe or Japan where the people make 30k/yr and live in one bedroom cuckbox apartments? Third world shitholes?
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>>2422966
This is what people need to understand. America is one of the most powerful empires in history. Since its inception, it's been a superpower. This can't be refuted. It staved off British invasion twice. Its geography is just that OP. The decline will be a slow burn, not an explosion. If you refute this you are sub-70.
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>>2423712
Western men are insanely mentally fragile.
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>>2423712
the US has its pros and cons. here's the thing, if you are "average" in the US, in terms of intelligence, ambition, talent, etc. then the US fucking sucks. but if you are even slightly to the right of the bell curve its a land of riches and prosperity. really the biggest downside to the US is the women because of obesity and entitlement.
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>>2424122
Isn't this a good thing? If smarter population ends up successful then the US is practicing soft eugenics.
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>>2424151
No.

There's a a strong inverse correlation between academic attainment, intelligence, and fertility. It's been this way for decades.
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>>2383763 (OP)
why do u niggers fall for this bait, OP has been doing this for the past 2 years. also made the same about china
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>>2383763 (OP)
Believe in yourself!
https://twitter.com/quirkedwhiteboy/status/1636811683527299072
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>>2424151
I don't know how you can look at the US over the last 70 years and conclude that it's practicing eugenics.
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>>2395475
In their own words...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf3Bf3iUGU4 [Embed]
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>>2383763 (OP)
>murrican LARPing about moving abroad
You ain't gonna do shit faggot
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>>2392087
Right, and looks like things are scheduled to continue getting worse.
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>>2392087
>call the repair man
I pray every day.
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>>2424100
Blacks, Jews, and Asians are extremely fragile.
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Some can see now that it would be better to head elsewhere. For others maybe they are able to see this at a later time.
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>>2420931
Always worth a try IMO. How good are you at being persuasive?
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Fill up your gas tank, and drive to the next continent in a boat.
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>>2424122
This, and that gap is getting bigger every year with inflation. Poor, middle, and now lower level upper classes are paying the bills for the mid to high level upper classes. Something is going to buckle to fix it, and the people in charge dont want to let anything break.
I was talking with a friend about buying a house. He said that its kind of sad how we are hoping for an economic downturn just so we can afford a home.
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down with usa
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>>2416380
>t.moved to philippines last year

how is it? what is a good budget per month? how much money do I need to go there an not worry for a few years?
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>>2407318
I'm glad we no longer have rivers so polluted they get set on fire
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What about the czech republic
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bump
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>>2416380
are the stories about JBW true?
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>Japan buying Russian oil
Unless the US can actually hold something important over the head of everyone else, like semi-conductor production, it's over. This is especially true since the same gaggle of incompetents that set this blunder into motion will still be in charge for the rest of the 20s.

Now is not the best time to jump ship, especially if you work in tech, which is extremely well paid relative to most of the world. But I think the 2030s will be dicey.
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>>2387766
>>2388236
dumb shitskins just proved his point. suck of andrew tate some more and go back to /pol/ you sandniggers.
>>2390501
go to a first world country and it'll change your outlook. either be helpful or fuck off. leaving the west is a decent move.
>>2384528
>who's never stood up for anything in my life and runs from hardship
what's the alternative, retard? let me guess, murder suicide? fuck off dumb stormfront bastard.
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>>2423712
we don't even have healthcare and are plagued by mass shootings. parents literally have all their kids gunned down in schools and are left with up to $150,000 of debt in medical and funeral costs. regularly.
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>>2407318
nice blogpost faggot but your country isn't special
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An ugly country OP.
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>>2423712
I always advocate for people trying to own a house or something in a different country these days though, its what rich people do because yeah its slightly schizo but eventually you'll get tired of all this and want to go somewhere else or perhaps its a culture thing and want to try and assimilate to another culture. Theres nothing wrong with that, its only wrong when americans believe that any other country will be vastly better wholesale. American certainly has issues but on the international scale its the most "balanced" out of all countries
--- 2436420
Nigger are you serious? America has some of the most pristine nature in the world and land in states like Montana and Wyoming are dirt cheap. Just buy 10 acres for $50k and build a house/park a trailer on it if you want to escape niggers so much. Or alternatively move to Maine or New Hampshire and live in a 90%+ white city. 

But you won’t do wither of those things because you’re a little bitch and also probably brown. 

Picrel is literally the view from my back porch.
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Considering leaving Canada when I get my degree but where else is there to go?
Canada's pretty much the best country on Earth.
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>>2436420
You're not finding land in Montana anywhere you'd actually want to live for that cheap. Sorry bucko.

T. Montanan
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>>2436232
Good idea. Could be as an investment or just a distant getaway.
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>>2436420
Everything is a big scam. You don't actually own the land or you wouldn't be paying taxes on it.
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>>2436420
You talking with basement incel who really think life in countries like russia or southeast asia is great. Sadly they never went through with their retarded plan
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>>2385916
Kek