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Tornado edition

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>What is this thread?
/rcg/ was created as a way for the roller coaster enthusiasts on here to discuss all things roller coasters and theme parks. While roller coasters are the main focus of these threads, there is also discussion on other theme park rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney discussion of all sorts including resorts/dining/trip planning is OK.

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>https://www.mousesteps.com
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Anyone have fond memories of theme park arcades?
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>>2434794
I've never played in a theme park arcade or a hotel arcade.
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>>2434794
Theme park arcades? No. Now theme park playgrounds, those were my shit.
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>>2434930
Wow I remember that.
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I put up a 591,550 on this the other day shooting an almost optimal run. I missed the enemy exhaust port once and and the tree eyes were glitching out so I know a 600k is possible.

Does anyone know if it's still possible to max it out at 999,999? 

Also goddamn does it need a refurbishment.
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>>2435054
Probably will never get refurbed. It's been rumoured for the chopping block for ages.
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>tell universal my actual opinions on their passholder surveys after each trip
>be brutally honest about how shit jimmy fallon, fast and furious, and the screen based experiences are. 
>explain how garbage some of their food is and how it's not worth the money they ask.
>explain in detail what parts of each older attraction are in need of repair and how it's fucked up they have monetized the express pass and merch so much but still deliver these half-assed aging experiences 
>dont get surveys anymore 

I'm gonna create my own survey and email it to them. Every time I go there I get pissed off at more things.
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>>2434794
Some of my earliest memories are going to the arcade at pic related with my old man when I was like 6 or 7. Wish I had a time machine bros to experience that again
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>>2434794
My fondest arcade memory was the one at the contemporary in Disney World. They had a shooting gallery.. I think it was haunted house themed. The arcade was pretty big and it also had a movie theater attached to it.

I have some memories playing in the Cedar Point arcade when it had some older machines. I think MK had that too but I barely remember it there. The one in your pic I remember was affiliated with (the now defunct) Gameworks and used Gameworks cards and all the employees had Gameworks shirts
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>>2434794
Love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>2435263
I’m surprised it’s still there and hasn’t turned into a DVC kiosk or a princess meet and greet. Cedar Point got rid of theirs too a few years back and made it a gift shop
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Anybody been on ArieForce One yet?
I try to avoid stopping around Atlanta when I pass through on the way to FL. The traffic is among the worst and there are too many joggers. I think I'll stop there next time for this and maybe SFOG. Worried about the joggers though.
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>>2435568
I'd love to swing by when I'm in Atlanta. I don't know if I'll be able to, since it's a little bit more of a drive and my family isn't as thoosie as me so they'd probably take some convincing. But we're so close it would be a shame to miss it.
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>>2435627
Good luck. I've gotta convince my wife to stop at either. I tried convincing her to do Dollywood and SFOG/Fun Spot on the way to driving to or from Florida. Maybe GA there and TN on the return. I had to settle for only Dollywood for now but that's still okay by me.

Fun Spot is pay per ride and you don't have to pay to get in. It's $12 to ride ArieForce One. They're about 40 mins apart (but Atlanta traffic....)
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I missed this. That RCID "King of England" stunt included this table. I think this info came out a few months ago elsewhere too. Disney has 'approval' for a 5th major park (and 2 additional minor ones). I didn't think they would go this route considering how much work is needed at their 4 existing parks. This doesn't mean it will happen.. but it does mean they're thinking about it.

I think it will happen in the next decade and is part of that $17 billion spending. Aside from the 'beyond big thunder' concept, I don't think they're interested in new phases at the existing parks. Just look at Epcot and how they canceled the rest of their overhaul plans. I expect a new park with a small handful of attractions that fans like me will call a half day experience. This seems to be working for them and forces people to spend multiple days and visit multiple parks to get their money's worth.
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>>2435695
>Existing minor theme parks
>3
The two water parks and what else? World of Sports?
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>>2435724
Maybe they included Disney springs?
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>>2435695
Is it known what the total cost is for Epic Universe?
17 billion bucks is probably more than enough to make a 5th gate, but the expansion they're doing here in Walt Disney Studios in Paris was said to be a total of 2 billion, and with how slow they're going and cutting a bunch of stuff from the plans I wouldn't be surprised they're going over budget. And this is even crazier considering it's just inferior copies of stuff they already made elsewhere. That's still only a small fraction of what would constitute a full theme park.
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>>2435724
>>2435738
It's probably Wide World of Sports... could also be Disney Springs. I don't think there is a need for another water park either... though they did have three for six years. I'm surprised they never ripped off Discovery Cove, they could always do something like that.
>>2435744
A search pulls up a lot of results saying it's 'only' $1 billion. That seems low. But $17 billion seems insanely high even spread over 10 years. Definitely more than enough for a 5th gate. This is supposedly all for WDW. They spent like $5 billion over the last decade.. that includes new Fantasyland, Galaxy's Edge, hotels, Disney Springs, the Epcot upgrades and GotG, Tron, and things like Skyliner. $17 billion is a LOT even factoring inflation. It implies they're doing something big. They could always pull a Fort Wilderness DVC and pull the plug
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>>2435752
Worth noting that Disney (over)spend stupid amounts on their rides, just like with marvel and Pixar films and they tend to get poor value for money. Their expansion of Disney Studios Paris (Avengers campus, Frozen land, converting a studio backlot ride to a terrible Cars ride, a lake and a teacups ride) has a budget of $2.5b.

For comparison, Alton Towers in the UK are building a new indoor coaster that's supposedly going to be the most advanced in the country and it's budget is about $15m.
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>>2435767
Oh we know. New Fantasyland was $800 million. Galaxy's Edge was $1 billion. Cosmic Rewind and Tron were each half a billion. The California Adventure remix was $1 billion. If Epic Universe really is $1 billion that's a bargain. For Disney, where is this money going?

Hagrid's at Universal Islands of Adventure was $300 million, still not cheap. Lots of theming and tech.. not sure if that includes license. Still quite expensive for a roller coaster. Steel Vengeance, a contender for best coast in the world, was $7.5 million. It did re-use most of Mean Streak's support structure. Fury 325, another best coaster contender, was $30 million. Velocicoaster, yet another 'best coaster in the world' and highly themed, was around $80 million.
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Anyone know what the security situation is like at CMH? Work finally scheduled me three days off in a row, I kinda want to fly down to Florida since I can do it for cheap during that time period but I don’t know how early I need to be at Columbus. At Dayton, where I live, it was like 5 minutes to get through security and then several hours of sitting at a bar waiting for my flight. MCO security was a nightmare, naturally, but I’m wondering if I can catch a 6:53pm Tuesday flight out of CMH if I get off work at 4:30pm and can be there by 5:30pm.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ3FQAMh2bo [Embed]
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I miss this style of Tomorrowland, it had so much sovl
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>>2435101
unfathomably based
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>>2435968
>>2435970
this is so comfy, it's unreal
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>>2435973
hard not to be a Disney adult when it's this comfy
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>>2435970
I didn’t even know they changed it. It looks so much worse. Why did they make the rocks silver? Ugh..
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>>2435920
If you have a reliable vehicle just leave work at 4:30pm and you’ll be in Orlando by 6:30am-7am. Stop at Buc-ees (there is 3 of them of I-75, 1 in KY and 2 in GA) to gas up and take a quick power nap.
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>>2435975
>spaceship Earth late afternoon when your feet are aching, it's walk on, and you get to spend 15 minutes in the cool

Comfy as fuck. Just wish they still had the cafe where you could watch the fountains.

>>2435970
90's 'techno' aesthetic is under-rated. Would love to see another attempt with more modern materials and building techniques 

>This is a fucking EasyHotel now
Life is bitter.
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>>2436140
Holy shit I didn't even know they painted the rocks, that's just asinine.
I'm happy with Discoveryland here in Paris, or at least I was before they just replaced all the Jules Verne stuff with Star Wars. Apparently there's gonna be some park announcements on the 12th, I keep hoping they'll finally get rid of Hyperspace Mountain and return to the original De La Terre A La Lune, but I know it's never happening. Honestly more chance they'll straight up turn it into Star Wars land permanently at this rate.
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>>2436164
>picrel
I miss wacky silly and cool architecture like that. Downtown Disney in Anaheim used to be like that, with many different things clashing against each other making each store and restaurant unique. Now they're sterilizing everything :(
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>>2436184
The starbucks effect.
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>>2436179
The star wars stuff is so out of place, also wish they'd put some damn shows in that waste of space dinner theare. Interesting how much they've cut down on the Star Wars stuff in Disney Studios (seemingly cancelling Star Wars Land).

Can't really see Paris getting too much love. 7 Dwarves or Indiana Jones clones have been rumoured for ages but don't seem likely. Would love to see an original E-ticket at either park though. Space Mountain, Car's Road Trip and Crush's Coaster being the only significant exclusives for Paris is shit.
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>>2436151
I genuinely think flying would be cheaper, I can fly round trip for like $96. I’ll probably just leave super early the next morning instead though, that way I don’t have to worry about missing my flight and I don’t have to pay for another night at the hotel. I just don’t know if it would be better to go to bed at a strangely early hour of the day after work that Tuesday or just pull an all-nighter so I can leave at like 3:50am.
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>>2436210
Why would you even consider driving that lol
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>>2436214
I’ve done it before but it ain’t fun
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Anyone go on the Mickey Runaway Railway?
Goofy says the gamer word.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGS9NpmiOUg [Embed]
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>>2436254
I actually kind of like it. Nothing will ever be as good as the Great Movie Ride, but it's a fun family ride even though the story is extra nonsensical
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>>2436254
I'm a big fan of the Mickey shorts so while I think it's very stupid to get rid of The Great Movie Ride, it's a pretty fun ride and I like that Mickey actually has a ride dedicated to him now. It's just that the one in Toon Town is so objectively superior to the one in Hollywood Studios in every single way that it's even more silly now that it's stuck in the Chinese Theater as well.
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>>2436271
I mean with ToonTown they had the budget to renovate that whole area while with Hollywood Studios it was just that one ride building.
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>>2436210
That’s great if you can get it for that price and it’s just you.
>>2436214
If you’re a family of 5 and can’t find airfare less than $400 and you want or need a car when you get there. It’s not a fun drive and it’s about the max distance I’d consider driving but I’ve done it many times. Many people do. In the winter time, parking lots are seas of northern state license plates and also many Ontario license plates
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>>2436322
>Many people do.
For a 3 day weekend? Doubt it
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Seems like it's confirmed that the Epcot expansion will end with Moana. No play pavilion, no Spaceship Earth refurb, No UK/Mary Poppins

Was kinda shitting on the Mary Poppins ride after learning it was a carousel instead of a steeplechase dark ride but it seems like they were doing neat Mickey's Railway style projection mapping things with it. Another ride to spread out the crowds around the world showcase was needed.
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>>2436681
The solution is to add attractions not based in IP that explore futurology and concepts like space travel, multiple dimensions, artificial intelligence, hydroponics, self-driving cars, etc. 

Disney does not possess the creative personnel to hit that necessary high watermark however.
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I think I'm finna go to Fun Spot Atlanta bros
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>>2436745
So Horizons and Innoventions 2?
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>>2436938
Same. Although I hear it’s the weakest of the 3.
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>>2436969
Really only one ride I'm primarily interested in anyhow. That new coaster looks amazing.
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>>2436978
Indeed. A supporting lineup would be nice but we’re only there for one reason
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>>2437004
Might try the go-karts since they're included in the day pass. Never ridden a go-kart before I don't think.
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>>2436964
I mean what else is EPCOT supposed to be?
It should always be a look at the future, the past, and the world. It becoming an IP graveyard is pretty pathetic
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>>2436964
I'd kill for Innoventions back. It was legitimately one of my favorite parts of all the parks as a kid. Seeing it decay over the years was sad.
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>>2437010
They are apparently bringing back the Communicore name for the new hub area, so that's something I guess.
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>>2437018
>Tear down Communicore/Innoventions building to replace it with convention center.
>Cancel convention center.
>Still need convention space.
>Rebuild the same building you just tore down.
The whole EPCOT 'transformation' has been a complete shitshow. I'm sure the Communicore name will just be a label and the new area will have absolutely nothing to do with Communicore.
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>>2436745
Those are great ideas consistent with the original Epcot concept. But Epcot is arguably a failed park and aside from being creatively bankrupt, they have no interest. Everything new will be IP and IP is what the majority of their guests want anyways.
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>>2437320
Universal has the same problem and has completely moved away from being a park about the magic of filmmaking to a park where you just momentarily enter an IP's universe like a shittier version of IOA with none of the magic. It even has a metastatic growth from IOA growing where Jaws used to be. 

I hate theme park guests so much it's unreal. The dumber the average park guest gets the dumber the park itself becomes. Fast passes, $40 shirts, screens, IP, upcharges, all of it.
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>>2437440
I like the atmosphere of Universal Studios. It still feels like a movie set, except the Harry Potter stuff, but that's totally separate.
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>>2437555
Sure because the stuff they haven't torn down is still there. Everything recent is just a worse version of something at IOA. Thematically it's a disconnected mess and all of the soul is gone. 

https://youtu.be/L_J4YZzVJgQ [Embed]
https://youtu.be/aXlp2x3CJ70 [Embed]
https://youtu.be/Ku1gdbbCKIk [Embed]
https://youtu.be/Y6QPolAcQTU [Embed]
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Ride op bros, what’s the worst thing you’ve experienced so far this season?
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>>2436745
that would require disney to still have personnel that have any ounce of SOUL.

the current ownership of disney only care about profits and politics.
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>the only bits not cancelled at Epcot were things either allowing them to make more money or to increase capacity

Figures
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>>2435263
I got to a theme park right when it opened and it had a shooting gallery like this. For whatever reason, when the staff turned it on all the rifles were set to one free play. One one was around, so I just went down the line, shooting one rifle after the other until they were all empty. I must have been playing for 20 minutes. It never happened again and years later they removed it.
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>>2437440
>has completely moved away from being a park about the magic of filmmaking
Probably because they never really used it as a proper film studio unlike Universal Hollywood, hence why the Studio Tour closed after 5 years of opening.
Same deal with the "Studio Backlot Tour" at Hollywood Studios.
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>Poseidon's Fury is permanently closing in May

Zelda time soon...
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>>2437933
Glad I got to experience it during my trip in December. The show itself was meh but the water tunnel was quite cool
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>>2437933

Sad to see a day 1 original concept go like that but the writing has been on the wall for a while now. The room change effect was pretty cool the first time it happened. Hopefully it's not going to be more Harry Potter.

Worst part of this is it means a Halloween Horror Nights Islands of Fear remake is now completely impossible.
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>>2437963
On the other hand, if they do end up going the Zelda route, you can have a Ganon takeover for an Islands of Fear reboot with Redeads all over the place.
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>>2437933
Fuck. I was finally able to show it to my gf last year, but the damn water tunnel wasn't working. Guess she'll never get to experience it.
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>>2437967
Nintendo wont go for that similar to how Marvel threw a fit about all of the dead super heroes in the carnage house.
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>>2437933
Oh no! It was closed during my last trip for all week until Friday after we had already left the park for the day. I saw on the app that it was open, and I thought about getting dressed and going back and doing it on my own, but I liked the way our day in the parks ended, with three back to back rides with my dad on the Mummy. I didn't go back out to do it, and I thought I'd do it next time. That's a bummer. Whatever newer attraction replaces it will probably be better. Still sad.
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Assuming mythos, the shops, and kebab place goes as well that's a massive plot of land they're working with and they have access to a huge piece of the waterfront as well
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>>2438002
I hope whatever replaces it will be as visually impressive as Lost Continent.
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Legend of Zelda dark ride where you explore a trap-filled temple similar to Forbidden Eye.
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If Universal does re-theme the Lost Continent, I hope they at least keep the best part around in some manner.
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>>2438046
>finally gets his propane torch back
>evicted
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It's such a shame Universal uses this ride vehicle for fucking screens when it's capable of so much more. Imagine if they had this when Jurassic Park was first being designed during the Spielberg creative consultant era. We'd have a full reenactment of the T-Rex scene in JP1.
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>>2438059
There's concept art indicating that this was first pitched as Jurassic Park before they switched IPs to get more out of the Hollywood tunnel animation assets and market it as "A Brand New Island!"
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>>2438046
What's something from Zelda that can be interactive like that?
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>>2438062
maybe that dude from Twilight Princess who became a living statue?
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>>2438046
I dont think they even need to change it. It looks like something you'd get a quest from in BOTW
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>>2437933
Weird, they'd only just refurbed it. Probably makes sense, it never has any sort of queue. The Darkanon thing was weird but I guess people got confused as to why Poseidon was a bad guy.

>>2437967
>>2437963
Zelda has been rumoured for a long time and Most Universal rumours turn out to be true.
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>>2438120
Kek
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>>2438133
>Zelda has been rumoured for a long time and Most Universal rumours turn out to be true.

Except the instances where they arent like Pokemon in kidz zone. It could just me an expansion of Hogsmeade for all we know. 

Whatever it is, I seriously hope they consider an elevated walkway that connects the two parks so people aren't locked to the 50 minute train or walking way the fuck out of the park. This is perhaps the best chance they will have at doing this.
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>>2438146
Have they even made clear what the long term plans for kid zone are? The things I've seen so far look very short term
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>>2438154
We have no indication aside from dreamworks characters being on the construction walls. They are still demolishing the fievel area, curious george, and woody coaster. We wont know anything until they're far enough along they have to file permits with the state.
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>>2438062
There's Fairy Fountains, but I'm not sure how much interactivity you could get there. 

>>2438120
Kek that would be hilarious
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>>2438168
It'll be just like the game. Kids approach them and get pulled into the fountain and SS'ed by a giant cake fairiy.
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>>2438133
I still wonder how they'd even tackle a Zelda themed area. Looking at Super Nintendo World, doing a Mario area is easy: it has a pretty set-in-stone style, and Mario and Peach and everyone always looks the same. On the other hand, Zelda and Link have different designs in every game and the Hyrule the games take place in vary wildly between games. So what's the plan? Base it on a specific game, or try to distill the franchise into a general Zelda look that encompasses all the highlights of the franchise? They could just make it Breath of the Wild since that's the most recent game, but I think a lot of people would be disappointed it's not the good old green tunic Link. I personally think a more classic fantasy theme would work best, something more like Ocarina of Time or Twilight Princess.
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>>2438171
The one time in my life I'll be a disney adult and ride a kid's attraction
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>>2437933
Zelda is fucking gay and if you like it you're a fag
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>>2438261
Twilight Princess is what I think of when I think of Link.
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>>2438261
oot/mm look would be the safest, followed by botw
maybe a ww/ph/st train ride or boat thing.
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>>2438261
In the earliest SNW layouts for the Kids Zone spot (when Kirby and Zelda were crammed in there in addition to Mario and DK), they were putting the focus on Hyrule Castle and the Lost Woods.
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>>2437933
I wish I didn't skip it last time I was there.. won't be back there in time. It was dated and corny but the water tunnel was the reason to do it (when it was working). The exterior theming is excellent. They definitely could re-use a lot of it with a Zelda makeover but I'd rather they do Zelda justice from the ground up. Re-theming dueling dragons to HP was a mistake. Flying unicorn retheme to hippogriff was ok. The tavern retheme is the only thing that was successful for me as far as convincingly rethemed. Zelda also needs Hyrule castle and being bunched up next to HP, I'm not sure how that would look. I agree this area is probably best used for a HP expansion and making that pathway between parks would be a great idea. What will be the fate of Mythos?

When Universal does Zelda (wherever they do it), it's going to be BotW. That's the best-selling Zelda game. It sold well in Japan where the series was never as successful as it was in the West. They're not doing Twilight Princess or OoT or toon Link.
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>>2437440
I trust that USO has a plan to update and improve that park even if it's a departure from the original working movie studio concept and is a bunch of IP lands. That's still better than the Epcot situation.

The best thing Disney did with the Epcot 'transformation' was cancel those unfinished projects. These were expensive bandaids that wouldn't meaningfully affect crowds or improve attendance. Just a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. Whatever future world is called these days, without its original identity it's just a mess. The best they can hope for is make the best of a bad situation and cope with it. They're not gonna just tear it all down but that's the fate it really deserves at this point.
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>>2438759
Even with teacups being the wrong pick for Poppins, World Showcase does need more capacity.
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They're putting Figment into that Disney Kart Racer

https://twitter.com/DisneyParks/status/1646166859668963333
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>>2438772
Then they should add more restaurant and shops. That's what people are back there for anyways. I haven't really had a problem with congestion there ever, it's just the food lines and restaurants that require reservations well in advance.
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>>2438759
They should have just done what has been proven to work at EPCOT and fully lean into the different countries theme and fill out the rest of the lakefront with different nations. You can work in IP where applicable. Now they're doomed to EPCOT just being a park that occasionally gets an E-ticket ride every decade or so that has nothing at all to do with the park itself and would better fit elsewhere. Disney is just the fucking worst but they survive based on brand dominance at this point. 

>>2438732
BOTW makes the most sense because the expansive hyrule allows you to add thematic elements from all of the games kinda like how mario land features small pieces of all the games despite being primarily themed to 3D world. 

I just don't think overall it's the strongest theme though. I'd rather see something insane out of left field like Godzilla, Batman, or Stranger Things, but only if those IPs absolutely bring it in the ride department. Lots of available IPs disney cant touch due to their bitchy womanchild landwhale autist demographic
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>>2438780
>be at Universal
>want to get food
>get food, maybe a 20 minute wait if it's dinner time
>dab in the direction of Disney
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>>2438783
>be at universal and want food
>go on app and order food
>go on ride
>food is ready to be picked up after
>eat it on a bench overlooking the lagoon
>dab on mousecucks
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>>2438783
You can also usually eat at table service restaurants like Mythos at IOA or Sharks Underwater Grill at SWO without a reservation. Maybe Disney is a victim of their own success but I think there are other factors here. If you need to mobile order quick service hours in advance, you need more restaurants. Crazy Disney people also make reservations just because they can and never eat there which is sometimes why you can luck out and they take walk-ins at quick service. But places like DHS, they need more places to eat and places for people to sit while they eat.
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>>2438811
>which is sometimes why you can luck out and they take walk-ins at quick service.
I meant table service
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Conference about Disneyland Paris happening in a few minutes. We might get some updates on the new expansion.
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>>2438782
If they wanted to be like Epcot, all they have to do is fill the lagoon with festival booths like SeaWorld does.
Fear Factor's been gone a while and its replacement was cancelled. Kidzone is being worked on now, World Expo/MIB is next on the chopping block and Simpsons will be gone by 2028. That's half the park.
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>>2438900
I dont think you understood what I was saying. I'm saying EPCOT should have went harder on the various countries and expanded it around the lake rather than just half of it. The only reason people go there is for the alcohol tour
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>>2438870
Big announcements! Please be excited!

>Following the other parks getting a toontown makeover and new ride Paris is getting... it torn down and replaced with a Pixar meet and greet. Despite the other park having a dedicated Pixar area.
>Nautilus (walk through) re-opening, 30th anniversary getting a finale with more drones(!!!). 

That's about the only new announcements.
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The absolute state of Mousecucks
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>>2438913
I really can't believe they did this. I won't believe it until it's opened. Will the theme park vloggers be afraid to say that they liked it better before?
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>>2438920
Have you seen Disney's creative board? 

It's only downhill from here and we aren't going to a laughing place
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>>2438905
LOL no I missed that completely. I thought you means USO. Sorry about that. Thought you meant USO should copy Epcot and fill out their lagoon with countries.

In that case I fully agree, they really should have more than Western Europe, Japan, China, and NA and have plenty of plots for it that are either unused or have temporary structures like trailers with offices on them. This would spread people out and take the load off the restaurants and shops, but on the flip side they would have to higher more people and probably did that math and figured it wouldn't increase attendance by much. They have traditionally relied on international workers getting paid nothing to staff that half of the park though. I think lack of interested sponsors was also one of the factors for them not filling it out
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>>2438774
hopefully they put in park-based tracks too
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>>2438910
wait Disneyland Paris didn't have a ToonTown
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>>2438968
They had a "Toon Studios" area in the WDS park that served as its loose counterpart, complete with a studio gate backdrop that had the Toontown hills in the distance.
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>>2438980
Ah.
I figured a small pixar expansion was coming ever since they soft-launched the "Worlds of Pixar" land last year
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>>2438910
Hey come on, there was other stuff too! Like uh... A Coco retheme of a restaurant. And footage of the build process on Frozen, which has barely made any significant progress at all.
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Universal : Hyrule

Basically build 2 rides
1 is a fishing pond, and allow guests to wade out into the centre of the pond if they so like.

2 is a Water Temple.
Basically you fuck guests into a pool, provide them with no help or clues to get out. Let them solve it
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>>2439007
I prefer a BOTW family launched coaster based on the death mountain carts that you propel with bombs
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>>2439000
The quick service restaurants in Paris are terrible, this will also be terrible.
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>>2438913
Presented without comment
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>>2439442
I'm not sure if this is blackface or vore.
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>>2438913
>>2439442
T-they can still salvage it, right?
RIGHT??????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g00kEcGh4j8 [Embed]
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>>2439704
The absolute mongoloids are apparently not having Facilier. Even a drooling retard could tell you having the friends on the other side lead up to the drop was the one thing to do in the re-theme, but it's just going to be Mama Odie's shack (why the old bag tries to fucking murder you, who knows). Maybe they're lying to keep it a surprise, or maybe someone will get their head out of their ass and put Facilier in, but don't hold your breath.
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>>2439704
>>2439722
Unlikely because it's all been confirmed that the lift is not spooky. The bottles in the ceiling match >>2438913

Enjoy diversity training mountain
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>>2439723
>Visit kindly old black woman.
>She hurls you off a fucking mountain.
What did Disney mean by this?
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>>2439704
This whole scene is so fucking good.
So of course the imagineeggers will do nothing to include or even reference it.
I fucking hate disney so much.
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Bros, how fast do go karts go? When I go to Fun Spot they're included in the day pass.
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>>2439972
I remember the Orlando one having two types of cars and one was for adults and went faster. I don't know how fast though but it was fun. And we had been drinking beforehand.
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https://twitter.com/bioreconstruct/status/1646994657979629568?t=LL5tDc3Eab80yCuPFX-W6g&s=19

Lots of good aerial pictures in that guy's timeline of Epic Universe today
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I went on that Web Slingers ride at DCA yesterday. The sign at the front said it was a 60 minute wait but the wait actually ended up being 2 hours. Lightning Lane was a mistake. Anyways, I am very displeased with the attraction itself. Some screens and you're back in the station within 5 minutes? Bugs Land was much better.
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>>2440113
It's ultimately just way too fucking short. There's no excuse for it to be over so soon
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>>2440361
It's also mogged by an attraction that's 23 years older.
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>>2438774
Dreamfinder and SMRT-1 are part of Figment's pit crew in this image posted from the game's official discord.
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>>2440567
>F2P

Hard pass
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>>2440361
I thought the ending was a fakeout. Then I saw the station again and me and my brother said "that's it?" to a cast member
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>>2440603
It would have cost them so little to make the ride longer, should have had a finale with the ride vehicles moving and chasing a boss enemy.
--- 2440659
Sup dickheads
Im going back to Disney (Orlando) later this year.
Whats the craic with tipping over there. Whats an expected, vs reasonable vs too high amount.

I know its a touchy subject, but I dont want you yank cunts taking the piss.
Recently saw a Reddit Thread devolve into chaos because some cunt was all up on his high horse boasting about tipping on average 27% every mea.
He was basically shouting down others who tipped less than this, until somebody came in saying they tipped 35% as standard and Mr 27% was a cheap fuck.

These sorts of numbers seem insane
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>>2440567
Is that my motherfucking nigga Sonny Eclipse
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>>2440659
That is a 100% larp, if you feel the need to tip, stick to 10%, especially around the Orlando tourist spots. I promise you they do just fine.
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>>2440616
it also needs variability.
It's all screens, surely they can add multiple scenarios for people to shoot through like Star Tours.
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Post your most painful "Never ever". 

I'll start
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>>2441319
Bro, I was there, but I was too scared to ride.