Tue Apr 18 01:51:04 UTC 2023

adv/28755989.txt

@@ -469,3 +469,98 @@ Good uncle advice
 First move out and then seek therapy
 --- 28768672
 >>28767276
+--- 28769283
+Anon please try to make a concrete plan to hopefully get her on board. If she feels you’re into her but you never make a move she might doubt her initial thoughts and conclude you aren’t. If you’re showing signs you’re into her and she isn’t expressly against them, try progressively making them more obvious. If she had initially thought you’re inti her but she never sees you try to act up on it she’ll brush it off as her having been wrong and go about her life probably getting dicked by another guy. Once a woman brushes off the idea of being with you, it’s over. That can gaslight themselves extraordinarily well into thinking they’re right and make it a reality for themselves.
+Don’t miss your chance anon !!
+--- 28769319
+>>28755989 (OP)
+Anon please try to make a concrete plan to hopefully get her on board. If she feels you’re into her but you never make a move she might doubt her initial thoughts and conclude you aren’t. If you’re showing signs you’re into her and she isn’t expressly against them, try progressively making them more obvious. If she had initially thought you’re inti her but she never sees you try to act up on it she’ll brush it off as her having been wrong and go about her life probably getting dicked by another guy. Once a woman brushes off the idea of being with you, it’s over. That can gaslight themselves extraordinarily well into thinking they’re right and make it a reality for themselves.
+Don’t miss your chance anon !!
+--- 28769850
+>>28755989 (OP)
+Please TOP your aunt anon or get TOPPED by black Turk Mustafa JAMAL Attaturk in prison if she calls the cops on you
+--- 28770431
+>>28756142
+Kek that’s because of the multiple different animals in their DNA, anon.
+--- 28770745
+>>28755989 (OP)
+This is pasta, or pasta which has evolved through numerous permutations, incorporating some procedural generation via modal models ala "muh aye-eye" -- I can tell because I've seen a l-lot of shit *belch* Morty, betcha didn't see that comin', huh, ya little shit? N-now you're readin' AAAWLL this in MY voice, Morty! MORTY! LISTEN TO ME! Y-*belch*-you've g-gotta give me (You)s!
+--- 28770749
+>>28763278
+>>28765581
+>I'd go to a therapist about all this, but I know they'd absolutely talk me out of it
+OP, as someone who's very familiar with, like, this specific line of reasoning: it sounds to me like you already know what the right answer here is. If you think that talking to a competent, trained, and nonjudgmental professional about your feelings, would most likely end with you deciding to give up hoping for incest... then either you're incredibly easily-manipulated and know it (in which case you shouldn't be on 4chan), or you already know what the healthiest thing to do here is.
+That being said, leaving aside the good advice: if you still choose to put the moves on your aunt (and assuming this isn't all a larp), for the love of god post updates, this is some of if not the funniest then certainly the most interesting shit I've read recently.
+--- 28770766
+>>28770745
+This is recursive pasta....
+--- 28771073
+>>28755989 (OP)
+Anon, your aunt loves you, maybe not in a romantic way, I have no way of knowing that, but she clearly cares for you and would do anything for you.
+Try to put yourself in her position, okay? Imagine you are an uncle and you have a young niece and one day, out of nowhere she tells you she loves you. Would you be mad at her? Would that offend you? Even if you had no romantic feelings for her, how would you react?
+This is the same, if you told her how you feel, she's not going to be mad at you and even if there is no romance in her heart, she is still going to care and love for you, and that love can overcome anything, hell if she really cares about you I bet she would try to find another girl for you.
+But perhaps something you fear most than anything is the confirmation that she has no romantic feelings for you, one thing is thinking about it and another is hearing her say it, that could hurt, a lot, but to grow as a person you must overcame that.
+And hell, if it turns out she loves you in a romantic way, the more time it passes without you telling her the less time you two will have in your life to be happy and together, you know? You are wasting precious couple time by not being honest.
+Open your heart, be honest with your feelings.
+--- 28771217
+>>28756055
+I can confirm this. Adults can easily warp a child's mind, they are literally their role models and think they can do no wrong. I know because this happened to me too.
+>be 10-12 can't remember
+>my cousin and I are best friends
+>like shit and ass nobody can separate us
+>we usually stay at each other's houses during the summer
+>in one of those nights we take a bath together because we were filthy after playing in the forest 
+>My aunt enter the bathroom fully naked
+>can see her massive bush
+>she also has massive child birthing hips, partly because she is fat as a 43 year old woman
+>I gawk at her, don't pop a boner but it must have been apparent to her because she chuckled to herself at my reaction
+>"Mom get out, anon is here!"
+>"Oh don't worry, I've seen him naked plenty of times"
+>she picks up something and leaves
+
+I didn't pop a boner at the time but the mental image has stayed, I had a milf fetish since I can remember and love pubic hair too. Many years later I realized what in the fuck was she doing going into the bathroom naked? She must have done this on purpose or this is something she does regularly... Then some other stuff clicked and I started to notice other stuff that happened with my cousin. Their relationship was very close and I even saw my cousin slapping her ass a couple times. This doesn't mean there was incest, just that my aunt has a really fucked up vision of what a relationship between child and adult is. If she apologized and immediatly left the room then I wouldn't have had my sexuality warped by her. I hate her somewhat for it. I never jerked off to her, she is my aunt but she definitely had a bad influence on me and wish this never happened.
+
+Never tolerate any sexual acts between kids and adults. NEVER. It fucks with their minds in many ways and the damage is forever.
+--- 28771332
+>>28755989 (OP)
+>>28755993
+>this story
+>that OP image
+Checks out. Go look up "easy-peasy method"
+--- 28771347
+OP PLEASE MAKE UPDATE THREADS OVER THE COMING MONTHS WE NEED UPDATES REGULARLY.
+--- 28771575
+I feel like most people here are telling the guy to confess just out of curiosity, were addicted to this story like a middle aged housewife is addicted to her favorite soap opera and wanna see how it goes.
+--- 28771928
+OP, you need to do it. What have you ACTUALLY got to lose? Only uncertainty itself. It's not the relationship to your aunt you're afraid of losing - it's losing the illusion in your head, all the god damn "what ifs" that remain in a state of uncertainty as long as you stick your head in the ground and do nothing.
+
+
+There are 3 possible outcomes if you tell her or try advancing on her (without!!! sperging out or being a sex-focused creep please, be decent and open, make it about your feelings and not the sexual aspect):
+
+1) she rejects your advances and breaks off contact with you - in this case, it was her own fault for grooming your attraction to her all this time - who the fuck kisses their adult "child" on the mouth? this isn't normal. it's a strong sign she wants more. if she cannot see how she fostered these non-familial feelings in you all these years through her behavior and actually rejects you permanently as a person (not just the advances), then screw her desu. then it all wasnt worth it, she was just being a mean tease to you all these years.
+
+2) she rejects you politely because she is just as torn on the matter as you are (this is the most likely outcome by far) - in this case you have many more options open to you, either you both learn to accept that this is how things are, or one / both of you try to escalate again at a later point (possibly with alcohol involved, to shift responsibility)
+
+3) she accepts and you get to have the absolute best love and sex of your god damn life that you would've missed out on if you hadn't said / done anything.
+
+
+1 and 3 are pretty unlikely, however 2 can still lead into 3 if you do it right.
+
+if 1 comes to pass, you need to accept that she really didn't love you enough (as a family member) to forgive you for having these feelings and still stay in contact. and yes, you will lose what you have now with her - but ask yourself: is it worth feeling this tortured day in and out? that's a big no from me dawg.
+--- 28771967
+>>28771928
+You are delusional. Selling your soul for perceived sexual gratification is the worst choice you can make. Literally thinking with your dick.
+
+The best OP can do is getting his life back on track and thanking his aunt for her support.
+--- 28774299
+>>28771967
+Best thing he can do is TOP his aunt
+--- 28774589
+>>28763456
+See now I like this response, a man of action a man of strategam. Others are just discussing if it could be or can't be and this one's got the working plan.
+--- 28776443
+a lot of answers ITT are from faggots turned on by incest, they don't care about you, they care about their own sexual fetish
+you have much more to lose than to win because she is basically your only "parent", if you lose her then you are basically like an orphan
+think about it, your relationship with her will never be the same, sex is great but lasts like 20 minutes while you could have a lifetime of her being your mother figure
+even if she accepts it would most likely forever change the way you perceive her, because let's be real she probably does have feelings for you as other anons have pointed out but won't go further but she is ashamed of it
+it's better for both you and her to move out of this house and put some distance (I don't mean to break contact but like you need to stop doing shit like kissing her on the lips) find yourself a gf and slowly forget about the feelings you have for your aunt

adv/28757293.txt

@@ -822,10 +822,6 @@ I actually agree looks and money aren’t everything for men, and most short or
 >>28768613
 
 In 2021, full-time, year-round working women earned 84% of what their male counterparts earned, on average, according to the Census Bureau's most recent analysis.
---- 28768652
->>28768639
->He thinks that men can get laid as easily as women
-How is it possible to be like this?
 --- 28768653
 >>28768640
 NTA but nah you're also here by choice, you're just so much of a misanthrope and/or nerd that you can't even hang out with other misanthropes and/or nerds.
@@ -1008,3 +1004,599 @@ Oh.. so which one am I?
 
 >People who adopt stoicism or "alpha male mentality", or schizoids, do feel bad about these things, but they reject it, because feeling bad is for weak beta males, so they say they do not have such feelings. They reject their emotions.
 That's stupid though. Either you feel bad about it or you don't, faking it isn't gonna help shit. I would feel bad in that "damn, I was kinda hoping they'd say yes.." kind of way, but that's about it. You have to know ahead of time there's a chance of yes and a chance of no,right? So what the fuck?
+--- 28768803
+>According to the most recent studies at the institute of science, anon is a caramel-coated candied-apple faggot incel
+
+See? I can do it too.
+--- 28768817
+>>28768719
+I never blamed anything on women. Men are the way they are because they have to be kind of an asshole. Otherwise there's no one to fight back against other men. If a group of people in an area have a stable society, a group of men could come along and try to fuck with them. Men are going to have to fight them and hopefully win, else they get dominated.
+--- 28768828
+>>28768619
+> If there funny and there a good person that tend to be more important to women around me.
+I had many girls in college who felt this way about me. They loved me as a person, but always found someone else to fuck/date, and everything was very one sided. It gets old being the "funny guy" or 2nd or 3rd person on their list, and eventually you just don't want to put effort into them any more. You eventually start asking yourself why you have to put in 10x the effort to get less than everyone else, and
+>>28768651
+Cool, now account for career level and hours worked. The difference is marginal once you do this. Do you honestly think a business would even hire men if they could get women to do the same thing for 16% less? The economics alone debunk this.
+>>28768765
+Incels (IMO) are a result of systemic rejection over many years, sometimes decades. The worst literally have no positive reference experiences with intimacy. They may have never had sex, or haven't in years. It's likely they put in effort at some point to "do what everyone else did" but for whatever reason, failed. People don't sign up to be starved of a basic human need, and sex/intimacy is one of those things. They literally weren't given a chance to be part of the in group, so reject it.
+Issues in the west regarding sexual access is part of this, but part of it too is with how society, especially women treat men struggling with this- They get laughed at for wanting to be loved. It's exceptionally dark stuff, and I'm not even sure there is a solution. How do you "give someone" 10 years of being loved they didn't get to have back? You just can't. These people have zero reason to invest in society. Now extrapolate this onto 20-40% of men, who struggle in some way according to recent studies. That whole "no pussy, no taxes, no work" meme from pol is the result- people stop giving a fuck and likely never will again.
+I have no idea how you'd go about fixing this, unless memory implants become a thing.
+--- 28768832
+>>28768784
+https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15317874/
+>>28768789
+The burden of proof is actually on you, once again just pointing out women earn less does not prove men on average get paid more for the same job
+But ok, https://fee.org/articles/harvard-study-gender-pay-gap-explained-entirely-by-work-choices-of-men-and-women/
+--- 28768847
+>>28768828
+My bad, top part got cut off:
+> You eventually start asking yourself why you have to put in 10x the effort to get less than everyone else, and if what your doing is really worth it. Very easy to end up in a negative feedback loop mentally.
+--- 28768859
+>>28768818
+>Conclusions
+>We have developed a rapid and cost-effective means of obtaining unbiased, high-resolution NRY sequence information. Comparative analysis of NRY and mtDNA sequences from a large sample of individuals and populations from the HGDP provides new insights into the comparative demographic history of males and females. In particular, we find on average larger genetic differences between populations for the NRY than for mtDNA (albeit with substantial regional variation), and that the effective population size of females has been larger than that of males throughout human history. We anticipate that using this approach to investigate additional populations should provide a rich source of new information about the genetic history of our species.
+
+so at what point do betas raised the children
+--- 28768862
+>>28768793
+
+Don't be pedantic. I meant constant rejection.
+--- 28768868
+>>28768832
+>Our data do not suggest that differential natural selection is the cause of this difference in TMRCAs. 
+lol
+--- 28768876
+>>28768859
+Because many of the men who did not breed were still around and still paired with women 
+>>28768868
+That doesn’t disprove anything I’ve said, try again saucekek.
+--- 28768904
+>>28768876
+>Because many of the men who did not breed were still around and still paired with women
+according to who or what? besides you
+>That doesn’t disprove anything I’ve said, try again saucekek.
+doesn't support it though
+
+you said
+
+>women evolved to be impregnated by the alpha and get the beta to raise it.
+
+which even at its most basic primal biological level doesn't make sense, females are the ones who raise the offspring while betas in a pack and just feeding off scraps and hoping to get a quick piece of pussy behind the alpha's back or challenging him.
+
+incels getting into biology and zoology was one of the worst things to happen to science, they just fuck it all up and sprinkle it with their made-up delusions about how the world REALLY works.
+--- 28768915
+>>28768828
+>I had many girls in college who felt this way about me. They loved me as a person, but always found someone else to fuck/date, and everything was very one sided. It gets old being the "funny guy" or 2nd or 3rd person on their list, and eventually you just don't want to put effort into them any more. You eventually start asking yourself why you have to put in 10x the effort to get less than everyone else, and
+This shit sucks. Feels like getting used, of course when we complain about anything like that we are the assholes and supposed to just take it. I cringe at my younger self. If you ain't fucking me then i'm not your emotional tampon. Exceptions are women i am related to.
+
+So fucking annoying. So many times and i have no idea if these women were lying or exaggerating how much of an asshole their bf or guy they are fucking was being. I will hear a sentence or two from random women, but i won't hear any more and i'll be frank with them. Shows them they aren't gonna get that emotional tampon shit from me. It also reminds them that they're complaining to me about their bf, it's baiting a guy to help them cheat.
+--- 28768917
+>>28768904
+Not that anon, but you guys are just arguing over pointless crap. Zoology is simple. Animals are not that complicated, they don't do weird shit like culture and society and philosophy like us.
+It only looks complicated because you try to overlay philosophy and dogma and moral judgments onto animal behavior, which creates absurdities.
+--- 28768928
+>>28768904
+> which even at its most basic primal biological level doesn't make sense, females are the ones who raise the offspring while betas in a pack and just feeding off scraps and hoping to get a quick piece of pussy behind the alpha's back or challenging him.
+You have no idea what you are talking about. In tribes women still depended on a pair bond with a man for survival, especially when with child. While most men weren’t passing on their genes, they were bonded with and protecting women, the alphas who impregnated most of the women could not support them all long term.
+--- 28768929
+>>28768917
+
+Animals have culture and society...
+--- 28768930
+>>28768917
+>. Zoology is simple. Animals are not that complicated, they don't do weird shit like culture and society and philosophy like us.
+That's right, so incels need to stop using their memes about alphas and betas or pair bonding.
+
+but they can't, and they won't.
+--- 28768945
+>>28768928
+so why wouldn't the betas, in these nondescript made-up tribes from no real time period or location, impregnate them?
+--- 28768954
+>>28768945
+They are beta
+--- 28768955
+>>28768945
+Sometimes they surely did, but women are primarily attracted to the highest status men and primarily bred with them.
+--- 28768973
+>>28757293 (OP)
+Women complain, complain, complain. They claim that they have it harder than men, or least have it just as bad. People are susceptible to this type of rubbish because half of them are women and most of the other half does their best to appease them, as well as the fact that idiots believe wholeheartedly the feminist viewpoint. It's rubbish because male suicide rates are so much higher, if women suffered more or equally then the suicide rates would reflect that. Their suicide attempt are mostly feeble attempts at attention seeking.
+--- 28768976
+>>28768954
+yeah "beta" in zoomer internet talk means like the weakest grossest most unfuckable guy in the room, but in actual science, in biology "beta" in the dominance hierarchy just means the 2nd in command - the next one in line.
+
+>>28768955
+>men
+there's only one alpha in a pack.
+
+You're telling me that in your "tribes" only the village chief got to fuck everyone while all the other males basically acted as 2nd mothers and never even once tried to fuck the females.
+
+cool stuff you're learning in american high school bro
+--- 28768981
+>>28768973
+>male suicide rates are so much higher
+
+To be fair, what are female attempt rates?
+--- 28768986
+>>28768973
+>200+ posts of men complaining about women
+--- 28768995
+>>28768973
+>It's rubbish because male suicide rates are so much higher
+You're my favorite kinda incel, anon.
+
+hats off to guys like you who manage to blame everything and anything on women, especially toxic masculinity.
+--- 28769003
+>>28768976
+I wasn’t using alpha and beta in those terms, I was using it in the context of alpha males are the highest-ranking males within a group, followed by beta
+--- 28769012
+>>28768995
+“Toxic masculinity” isn’t real and is just a pathetic feminist attempt to victim blame men. Way to prove his point.
+--- 28769015
+>>28768928
+>>28768945
+>>28768955
+>>28768976
+>You're telling me that in your "tribes" only the village chief got to fuck everyone while all the other males basically acted as 2nd mothers and never even once tried to fuck the females.
+Who the fuck cares about this goofy bullshit anyway? 
+
+First of all, he's totally just making it all up, basing it on nothing but what he fucking wants to be true
+
+But secondly, and more importantly, who the fuck cares? Even if he was right, who cares? None of this horse shit has any bearing on TODAY. So fucking what if some gay tribe tens of thousands of years ago did this and that, we don't live in that time, we live.. today, and we have our own thoughts, our own brains, our own FREE WILL
+--- 28769016
+Truthfully OP, they do. In some ways anyway. On the one hand, it's pretty easy for them to get attention, validation, and relationships from both each other and men. On the other, it's not as easy for them to readily succeed in whatever industry they choose (so long as you work hard) like it is for men. But in my opinion, in the modern age society has become egalitarian enough that the gap is starting to narrow significantly. The effect that loneliness is having on young men far outweighs whatever echoes of sexism are still resonating in society. It's a serious problem that nobody wants to acknowledge, because men are always expected to be stoic and accept their circumstances for what they are. At a certain point though, like when the majority of young men are single and sexless, you have to stop and ask if that expectation hasn't gone too far. Like it or not, sex is essential to men's mental wellbeing. Women love to roll their eyes at this notion, but it's true. They're not hormonally-driven to it like we are, and they don't understand what being unable to get a girlfriend does to a man's mind, because they always have the option to "settle". A little competition between males is a good thing but ultimately it's gotten so out of hand that we're seriously gonna start to have real problems if women don't realize that their standards are out of control. I hope that didn't sound too incel because I don't hate women, but I think it's fair to say that they are unilaterally favored in so many ways when it comes to mental health and relationships.
+--- 28769020
+>>28769015
+>First of all, he's totally just making it all up, basing it on nothing but what he fucking wants to be true
+
+Then explain why the majority of men didn’t pass on their genes
+
+>But secondly, and more importantly, who the fuck cares? Even if he was right, who cares? None of this horse shit has any bearing on TODAY. So fucking what if some gay tribe tens of thousands of years ago did this and that, we don't live in that time, we live.. today, and we have our own thoughts, our own brains, our own FREE WILL
+
+Not really, we don’t exist outside of evolution. Women’s desires for the top men is resulting in the current disaster of a dating market were the average guy gets crumbs and the average woman gets played and pumped and dumped by the men at the top.
+--- 28769025
+>>28769016
+>men are always expected to be stoic and accept their circumstances for what they are.
+This is the crux of the problem, and why these arguments look so insane. A third of the people involved are saying "hahaha, you're so pathetic for complaining" and another third yells louder to spite them.
+--- 28769026
+>>28769003
+first off, that doesn't sound any different from what I wrote
+
+second, are the betas castrated? what's going on in our made-up tribal people society
+--- 28769033
+>>28769012
+There it is.
+
+*chef's kiss*
+
+everything is women's fault and men have no will or agency of their own
+--- 28769038
+>>28769026
+>first off, that doesn't sound any different from what I wrote
+You are arbitrarily declaring there is only “one” alpha per tribe, not in the context of what I was saying.
+>second, are the betas castrated? what's going on in our made-up tribal people society
+You know it’s hilarious you were demanding a source that the majority of men didn’t pass on their genes and when you got one you backtracked into somehow insisting it’s all a conspiracy. I guess in your world all those guys just chose to not breed and passively wandered around.
+--- 28769047
+>>28769033
+He is your counterpart and the opponent you deserve. You blame everything on men, he will blame everything on women, and the world will be perfectly in balance.
+--- 28769055
+>>28769033
+>woman has problem 
+>this might be caused somewhat by society and is not entirely individual responsibility
+>so true!!!!
+>man has problem 
+>this might be caused somewhat by society and is not entirely individual responsibility
+>SO MEN HAVE NO AGENCY? EVERYTHING IS EVERYONE ELSES FAULT?
+Why are feminists such hypocritical idiots?
+--- 28769058
+>>28769012
+
+Dude, as another dude, how do you not recognize that that exists? Aren't we always talking about Chads and stuff?
+--- 28769071
+>>28768995
+I did not blame anything on women. I only said that men's lives have more suffering as evidenced by their suicide rates. Ideologue that you are, you instantly attacked me with the meaningless catchphrases of "incel" and "toxic masculinity".
+--- 28769085
+>>28769020
+>Then explain why the majority of men didn’t pass on their genes
+because they were eaten by a fuckin bear or sabretooth tiger while hunting food and shiny rocks for potential mates, and they died before they could fuck
+Because women were hiding in a caveman hole, they died less, and whatever men were still around could fuck them, easy as.
+
+it's not a conspiracy, holy shit It's natural selection, actual NATURAL selection
+
+>Women’s desires for the top men
+You actually have brain damage, you're stuck on permanent "binary thinking" mode where it's either Chad or a Virgin. Like average-looking people who have a medium-sized income and living arrangements don't have a medium number of kids, as if poor ugly people don't shit out 9 kids in ghettoes and trailer parks. Oh no nooooo it's only AlphaChad, the Fucker of Women.
+
+take your meds, nearly 300 posts of this shite and it sounds like 200 of those are all you. good night.
+--- 28769087
+>>28769058
+Simple.
+First off, it’s not a productive term. Even if the definition is correct, it is clearly an insult that alienates men. It’s like how psychology used to refer to a lot of female neurosis as “hysteria”, the neurosis were real, but it was decided to move away from the term hysteria because it was unproductive and demeaning.
+Toxic masculinity is the same, even feminists like Helen Lewis have come out and said it is making conversations harder, not easier. Of course virtue signaling feminists are aware it’s an insult which is why they will keep using the term.
+Secondly, it’s just a stupid concept. No one is arguing that men do not ever exhibit bad behavior, but ascribing any antisocial behavior to their “masculinity” as though it is a core aspect of them that needs to be excised is ridiculous.
+https://bigthink.com/the-present/toxic-masculinity-myth/
+--- 28769094
+>>28769033
+toxic femininity is women being beta. If women were men they would be so pathetic that beta dudes would bully them.
+--- 28769095
+>>28768986
+People can only do so on an obscure board of an anonymous Internet forum. Some would probably jeopardise their social standing and employment if these views were expressed openly. Meanwhile, the idiotic feminist complaints against men are partoted by most politicians, billionares, corporations, taught in universities with their own special courses, indoctrinated into the youth and protected by hm"hate speech" regulations etc...
+--- 28769097
+>>28769038
+>You are arbitrarily declaring
+what does "alpha" mean, sweetie?
+
+Not in the greek alphabet, in terms of social hierarchy
+--- 28769107
+>>28769055
+>>this might be caused somewhat by society and is not entirely individual responsibility
+Do us men not live and partake in society?
+
+When a dude bullies a boy in school, is that also women's fault somehow? Surely it must be.
+
+>>28769071
+>men's lives have more suffering
+so why's that
+--- 28769108
+>>28769085
+>it's not a conspiracy, holy shit It's natural selection, actual NATURAL selection
+you’re accusing me of binary thinking, when you’re declaring it is only one thing (death from hunting accidents). 
+While that was a factor, you’re ignoring the reality of male competition and survival value. Not all men who lived got to breed for this reason.
+> Like average-looking people who have a medium-sized income and living arrangements don't have a medium number of kids, as if poor ugly people don't shit out 9 kids in ghettoes and trailer parks. Oh no nooooo it's only AlphaChad, the Fucker of Women.
+That has nothing to do with my comment. I’m not saying this is dictating modern day genetics, things are different now due to birth control and other factors obviously. But the same evolved preferences are reacting in the dating market, just in new ways.
+--- 28769124
+>>28769097
+Like I already told you, I was using alpha in the context of high ranking males, that’s it.
+https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-3-319-19650-3_2695
+I get you’ve had to abandon most of your prior arguments so you’re now latching onto some semantics about me not using a different definition of alpha, but you can stop, it’s not working.
+>Do us men not live and partake in society?
+notice the word “somewhat” retard.
+--- 28769126
+>>28769095
+Tough and strong people don't have to talk about it. This is men. It's like a wannabe tough guy talking shit personified. They say a lot while the real tough guy just sits quietly knowing he would fuck them up.
+--- 28769128
+>>28769087
+so when a dad tells their son that boys don't cry or show feelings because feelings are gay, when a bully or male teacher harasses a kid for being too shy or whatever, and then this kid fuckin kills himself later in life because of that, that's women's fault?
+--- 28769136
+>>28769124
+well that's not what alpha means. Alpha means the one dominating male.
+
+This language predates you, both the terminology from biology and the greek letter itself. Learn it and use it correctly or stop using it - you're only weakening whatever point you might have.
+--- 28769137
+>>28769128
+Never said it was “women’s fault”
+But describing it as “men’s fault” is equally stupid
+--- 28769138
+>>28769128
+Not that anon, but whose test are those boys being trained to pass? Who are those boys going to have to prove themselves to in the future?
+Hmmmm.....
+
+Also I wonder why gay men act effeminate and reject toxic masculinity. I wonder who gay men are attracted to...
+--- 28769139
+>>28769107
+What a disingenuous bigot, you instantly accuse me of being an "incel" who blames everything on women, when I point out that I did not do so you instantly pivot to asking me the cause of male suicide. My point was not in regards to "blaming" women or seeing them as cause, but simply to the fact that women's drastically lower suicide rates do not reflect the feminist polemics they parrot about women having it worse.
+--- 28769140
+>>28769085
+>Oh no nooooo it's only AlphaChad, the Fucker of Women.
+Yes.
+--- 28769145
+>>28769136
+A definition of alpha male:
+>the most dominant, powerful, or assertive man in a particular group:
+None of this means there is only one alpha male per human tribe, there can be different alphas depending on the social group or context and it fluctuates.
+--- 28769150
+>>28769020
+>Then explain why the majority of men didn’t pass on their genes
+I wouldn't be surprised if there were other explanations out there, but yeah, it would seem the answer is that some guys were impregnating a lot of the girls. Of course we know that kings and emperors and pharaohs and whatnot had a fuckton of wives, so that's no surprise there 
+
+The bullshit about the betas taking care of these women after they had kids though? Not sure where that came from lol 
+
+And the "pair bonding" thing is just complete goofy bullshit. The fuck is pair bonding?
+
+>Not really, we don’t exist outside of evolution
+What in the hell does that mean? I exist..?
+
+>Women’s desires for the top men is resulting in the current disaster of a dating market were the average guy gets crumbs
+What do you mean crumbs?
+
+>the average woman gets played and pumped and dumped by the men at the top.
+lol, do you think that is what is happening? As if the only reason these women could be fucking these dudes is because they want to lock them down, marry them and have their babies? Please.. they want the cock, and the cock they're taking usually isn't even from the guys "at the top," it's just the assholes at the bar 7 days a week who have no problem trying to fuck anything that moves
+--- 28769152
+>>28769107
+> Do us men not live and partake in society?
+Notice the word somewhat, retard
+--- 28769161
+>>28769128
+>Mens' problems don't matter when it's a man causing it
+I already know no one gives a fuck about us. Toxic masculinity is bullshit because women uphold it as well, it's inherent in people not just men. Women can whine and complain to men all day, but a man has to tread carefully or else he gets accused of wanting a therapist. Women just can't handle being emotionally supportive to men to the degree that men can with women. I don't fault them for it. They are not designed to be that way. It scares the shit out of them when they see men who are "leaders" emotionally vulnerable and weak. This is a part of how women objectify men.
+--- 28769189
+>>28769150
+> The bullshit about the betas taking care of these women after they had kids though? Not sure where that came from lol 
+Because if not that, a functional human tribe doesn’t make sense, women rely on men for survival and the minority impregnating them would not individually support them all. There had to be men in the equation who did not breed but still had access too women.
+>And the "pair bonding" thing is just complete goofy bullshit. The fuck is pair bonding?
+Literally just means forming a close relationship though sex
+> What do you mean crumbs?
+I mean what I said, a majority of women competing over a minority of men and a majority of men competing over a minority of women
+> As if the only reason these women could be fucking these dudes is because they want to lock them down, marry them and have their babies? 
+They may not logically want that, but if they are fucking that is their genes saying breed with him.
+And it isn’t just that, it’s men at the top in all contexts, wealth, looks, status, dominant personality, etc.
+--- 28769195
+>>28769108
+okay one more cheeky post and I'm done for real
+>While that was a factor, you’re ignoring the reality of male competition and survival value. Not all men who lived got to breed for this reason.
+
+what are you even saying here, dudes were just killing each other off in the tribe?
+
+> the same evolved preferences
+are they preferences or absolutes? Because until this point you've been talking in rock-solid absolutes. Alphas have sex and Betas do not, according to your whole meme language.
+
+So what even is alpha or beta anymore? Average people have sex too you know, I can't stress that enough. Ugly ones as well. 
+Like I said - binary thinking. There's more than two types of people in the world you know. At least three, maybe 5, who knows.
+
+btw all those questions were rhetorical do not answer them kthxbye good luck with your future gf
+--- 28769210
+>>28769195
+Women are the Chinese gender.
+--- 28769231
+>>28769195
+> what are you even saying here, dudes were just killing each other off in the tribe?
+Yes, and women refusing to mate with men at the bottom of the social hierarchy and being more likely to mate with men at the top.
+What is controversial about this? Every study we have finds women are more attracted to men who are higher status and have other women interested in them, do you really believe this had no real world effect?
+> Because until this point you've been talking in rock-solid absolutes. Alphas have sex and Betas do not, according to your whole meme language.
+Never said any of that, this is just your poor understanding or a strawman.
+> There's more than two types of people in the world you know. At least three, maybe 5, who knows.
+Once again this is just your poor understanding. I am perfectly aware things exist on a continuum, all I am suggesting is on one side of the continuum you are less likely to breed and on the other side more likely with most landing in between for all of human history, that’s it.
+--- 28769240
+>>28768589
+>No it doesn't
+Yes it does unironically. For a woman to reach as high as I can she has to sacrifice having children which I wouldn't want to do.
+And as far as status goes, i'm talking my socioeconomic status, and my smv have gotten higher into my mid 20s, hopefully it will keep going up. A woman does not benefit as much from this since their dating pool gets smaller the richer they are and their looks usually peak in their college ages
+--- 28769244
+>>28769137
+that's uh very gender-neutral and progressive of you I guess
+
+>>28769138
+Men, and women. Not just your "shit test" of having to make eye contact on dates and all that incel nonsense - but at work as well or whatever other career you might have like the army. There's always gonna be men above you in terms of power either physical or financial or political social or otherwise, it's not just women.
+
+Again, if we're gonna blame women for absolutely everything may as piss on the floor like the dumb mindless dogs that we are. Just mindlessly being led around on leashes like good boys, right? 
+
+But no, I'd like to think that as a man I have a free will of my own that isn't entirely dictated or controlled by women. But you do you.
+
+>>28769139
+oh okay well whoops my bad, I didn't know it was a race or contest to see who has the coolest suicide rates
+--- 28769254
+>>28768619
+>. I have rejected men because looks where everything to them, and they didn't really see me.
+Meanwhile we have often felt actually invisible instead of your voluntary loneliness
+--- 28769286
+>>28769189
+>Because if not that, a functional human tribe doesn’t make sense, women rely on men for survival and the minority impregnating them would not individually support them all
+Except the whole tribe could just support each other.. 
+
+Also, who says that one individual male couldn't have supported them all? Kings, pharaohs, yada yada I said this already
+
+>Literally just means forming a close relationship though sex
+Are you talking about love?
+
+>a majority of women competing over a minority of men and a majority of men competing over a minority of women
+You think that's how it goes?
+
+>They may not logically want that, but if they are fucking that is their genes saying breed with him.
+Their genes aren't saying jack shit
+
+>And it isn’t just that, it’s men at the top in all contexts, wealth, looks, status, dominant personality, etc.
+Oh as fucking if that is who is at "the top." The top of what? Money? Old fucks, that's who is at the top
+
+None of this shit matters, as it's not the way people operate. We have brains, thoughts, feelings, and free will. This dominance/submissiveness, alpha/beta, genes/biology shit is all fucking nonsense. It's meaningless. Go to the bar 7 nights a week and hit on every girl there, you'll see
+
+>>28769240
+>For a woman to reach as high as I can she has to sacrifice having children which I wouldn't want to do.
+Why would she have to sacrifice that opportunity but you wouldn't? Because she would have to leave work for a couple of months when the kids was born? They have maternity leave nigga, it'll be fine, she'll be back to work in no time. So now what?
+
+>i'm talking my socioeconomic status, and my smv have gotten higher into my mid 20s
+What the fuck are you talking about? Money? You mean money? Yeah, there's goes up too..
+--- 28769301
+>>28768619
+Women just can't understand
+--- 28769311
+>>28763404
+A lot of richfag families are even more dysfunctional than poorfag families. It doesn’t really matter whether your dad is beating you with a regular belt or a gucci diamond studded belt.
+--- 28769313
+>>28769286
+> Except the whole tribe could just support each other.. 
+No they couldn’t, there wouldn’t be enough males to defend and provide
+>Also, who says that one individual male couldn't have supported them all? Kings, pharaohs, yada yada I said this already
+how is that a point against what I’m saying? The kings and leaders who had hundreds of kids (that we know of) most definitely were not personally supporting every one.
+> You think that's how it goes?
+No, I know that is how it goes because we have clear data showing on dating apps women only swipe on a small minority of men 
+> Their genes aren't saying jack shit
+sexual desire is the desire to breed
+> Oh as fucking if that is who is at "the top." The top of what? Money? Old fucks, that's who is at the top
+So you don’t think higher status males are more likely to get laid? 
+> Go to the bar 7 nights a week and hit on every girl there, you'll see
+The people who advocate this are the first to buy into alpha / beta dynamics and apply it
+--- 28769322
+>>28769311
+Middle class and up tend to have emotionally absent fathers. He's physically there and might not beat you, but he's not fully there.
+--- 28769327
+>>28757343
+tutorial mode* in easy mode you still play. in tutorial mode the A.I plays for you and you think youre playing.
+--- 28769330
+>>28769311
+Statistically speaking, this is completely wrong
+--- 28769359
+>>28769244
+What a moron, if women had higher suicide rates it would be on the news every night, college professor and feminists would be screeching their lungs out, anyone who expressed a negative view of women would be put in jail, it would be a huge issue...however when men kill themselves more, it is a joke to you and you have the stupidity to wonder why they do.
+--- 28769362
+>>28769313
+>No they couldn’t, there wouldn’t be enough males to defend and provide
+No really, that's how that worked.. the whole tribe took care of each other. That's actually how that works in these fuckin goofy tribes that still exist today
+
+What makes you think only men can "provide?" Or even defend?
+
+>The kings and leaders who had hundreds of kids (that we know of) most definitely were not personally supporting every one
+??? Yes they were..? How the fuck do you think that deal worked?
+
+>sexual desire is the desire to breed
+No, it's the desire to fuck. People stick their dick through a hole in the wall and just fuck whatever is on the other side, no fucks given. They're not trying to breed, they're trying to fuck
+
+>So you don’t think higher status males are more likely to get laid?
+More likely than who? Wait, more importantly, what the fuck is "high status?" You mean money?
+
+>The people who advocate this are the first to buy into alpha / beta dynamics and apply it
+Okay well forget the alpha/beta part, just go to the bar and hit on every girl 7 days a week for a few years, them come back and let me know
+--- 28769396
+>>28769362
+>What makes you think only men can "provide?" Or even defend?
+Because men are far more naturally built and primed to hunt and fight 
+>Yes they were..? How the fuck do you think that deal worked?
+No they really weren’t. They might have wives and concubines but they didn’t marry every girl they banged.
+>No, it's the desire to fuck. 
+The desire to fuck = desire to breed, Sex evolved to produce babies. If you sexually desire something that is your evolutionary wiring thinking it is the best genetic option.
+>More likely than who? Wait, more importantly, what the fuck is "high status?" You mean money?
+more likely than lower status males.
+By high status I mean being at the top of any attractive metric. Looks, money, fame, even personality.
+>just go to the bar and hit on every girl 7 days a week for a few years, them come back and let me know
+What would be learned is pretty much everything that attracts women is a signifier of status
+--- 28769419
+>>28769362
+>sexual desire is the desire to breed
+>No, it's the desire to fuck. People stick their dick through a hole in the wall and just fuck whatever is on the other side, no fucks given. They're not trying to breed, they're trying to fuck
+The desire to breed is an instinct retard. You just outed yourself as one of those post modern retards. Humans fucking and multiplying for generations has no bearing on current year. Humans aren't inherently driven to breed. The desire to breed begets all the rest of the sexual shit.
+>people want to have sex for no reason at all
+Good god. No wonder everyone now is so fucking retarded. They can't even accept that breeding begets all sexual activity because they are deathly afraid it will invalidate their personal faggotry.
+--- 28769427
+>>28769419
+This was supposed to be green text
+>Humans fucking and multiplying for generations has no bearing on current year.
+--- 28769437
+you need to stop caring. smoke some weed. realizing nothing really matters is the trick to being happy
+--- 28769455
+>>28769396
+>They might have wives and concubines but they didn’t marry every girl they banged
+Okay, so why were these women fucking these kings (or whatever) then?
+--- 28769466
+>>28769437
+Nihilism leads to a suicidal lifestyle
+--- 28769477
+>>28769455
+1. They were pressured / forced
+2. They thought they would get monetary or status benefit from it but didn’t 
+3. They were attracted to his status
+--- 28769485
+>>28769466
+And every other lifestyle results in you living forever
+--- 28769584
+>>28769359
+>however when men kill themselves more, it is a joke to you
+no it's not, and you're the one who's making a contest out of it
+--- 28769606
+>>28757293 (OP)
+Yes. Everyone would be a girl if they had the choice. As it stands, only the lucky ones get to.
+--- 28769644
+Woman have it easy in every aspect
+Post pics and milk simps earn lot's of money
+Most jobs prefer woman
+HR always favours woman
+Woman always win at court
+They accuse for false rapes without evidence and get zero punishment
+Woman serve less prison time than males
+Woman can get sex without effort or be social
+A woman can be loved and appreciated just cuz its existing while men have to be tall rich good looking etc...
+I can type more and more but u get my point...i wish i was born a woman to enjoy life
+--- 28769659
+>>28769286
+>Because she would have to leave work for a couple of months when the kids was born? They have maternity leave nigga, it'll be fine, she'll be back to work in no time. So now what?
+Have you ever worked with women they get rocked in the workplace when they get peggers
+--- 28769796
+>>28769644
+This. You'd have to be an idiot or young and naive to think women don't live life on easy mode. Even in the workplace they get away with doing whatever they want wasting entire days on social media and gossiping with other females. There are exceptions sure but we're talking on average here.
+--- 28769808
+Look at someone with the thing you want. Respect them and honor them that you might be able to receive from them. Be someone who is always in the posture of learning, the posture of being able to be corrected. As for me, I learn from God who shows me leads me to learn these things in truth. As a result, I have outgrown past, present, and future color-pills on this site and I am able to keep my bright face because I know the explanation of things. Here's a shortcut. Husbands love and wives submit. Love involves giving. A guy can be positive, affectionate, and caring but no giving what means to him, money, freedom etc means that he is those things but not love. Wives do not love but submit, even their bodies and their visions. Whatever their father, brother, influencer, leader envisions will go because she will submit to the husband's vision. Any lack of vision past a certain point means something cannot go past that certain point so always start at the end of mind, the end of your life, the end of the journey, the end of the process.
+--- 28769922
+>>28757293 (OP)
+In the west? Yes, so much yes
+--- 28769970
+>>28769796
+only for firstoids though
+--- 28769992
+>>28769796
+If u born a male and broke your whole life is a joke and hell...woman can earn millions by just existing...we were so unlucky we lost the genetic coin flip and our lives are done
+--- 28770017
+>>28769992
+Men are literally disposable.
+--- 28770040
+>>28770017
+I will never get over the fact that i was so close to have a normal good life...i want this world to end
+--- 28771211
+>>28770017
+yet men cheat more?
+--- 28771242
+>>28770040
+>yet men cheat more?
+(I'm not that guy)
+
+Supposedly, yeah, but what are the stats for just 18-40 year olds? Or something around that range, and within the last 30 years or so. I bet that gap closes up real nice if you do that
+--- 28771433
+>>28771211
+Only the top tier males like rich billionaires or playboy footballers...woman view only this type of men as humans thats why they say awwww all men cheat
+--- 28771473
+>>28757380
+>women tend to prefer closeness and emotional fulfillment
+in what parallel reality do i find these women?
+--- 28771546
+>>28769311
+Who gives a fuck? The money guarantee you won't end up in a dead end, your upbringing is better than those of poorfags and your health isn't an issue either. Point is money makes everything so much more manageable...
+--- 28772144
+>>28757293 (OP)
+> In my head, women who are not overweight and are not absolutely hideous can basically live life without much problems.
+> Pic of a not-overweight woman who just gave up on dignity and sat like a dog in front of 1mil people.
+I love having male brain now.
+--- 28772976
+>>28769311
+Loving supportive and wealthy
+
+Learn to read
+--- 28773495
+>>28757293 (OP)
+Why the fuck does it matter? Do you want me to list all the shit things about being a woman to make you feel better about being a man? Men fucking SUCK, they are awful, cruel, violent and gross. That’s what women have to deal with, nasty ass men. Men get to date women, fuck women be loved by a woman which is vastly better than dealing with men. Just ask gay men. You don’t see lesbians complaining about women the same way gay men complain about men. That’s because being with a woman rules.
+--- 28774283
+>>28757293 (OP)
+Look at the amount of views in the image and you tell me
+--- 28774408
+Women are passive creatures and have things done to them.
+
+Men are active creatures and must *do* things.
+
+A woman simply is, but a man must become.
+
+Sounds like you are too weak to be a man. "Boo hoo I wish I were a woman :(" Incel bitterness comes from this.
+
+Women have it easy, sure. But men can achieve greatness
+--- 28774553
+>>28757400
+>Got groomed by friend’s brother at 12/13 when he was 22/23
+fucking please. this has more to do with losing your dad than your friends brother being "a groomer".
+
+you needed the male validation and fucking put out. im not saying its right that it happened but dont act like the guy was some predator
+--- 28774946
+>>28757400
+>>Got raped by a stranger at 18, sober, leaving the mall 5 minutes from my house
+How does this even happen?
+--- 28774976
+>>28769311
+Nah, getting beaten isn't really that bad you're a pussy if you're traumatized by it, its the not caring about your well being/education /future that really fucks you up and that happens in poor families
+--- 28774983
+>>28763404
+By rich I meant middle class and up, can afford to send you to college basically
+--- 28774992
+>>28765895
+Because I work with blacks and that's exactly how they talk about whitey, you've been found out jamal
+--- 28775130
+>>28757293 (OP)
+Most women have so much confidence and the world tells them to get more, they get attention they don't want and that's worse than none at all like a lot of guys get. They bleed once a month and everyone including them has to put up with it cause nature is cruel. It's easier for women to live better than men but it's easier for men to survive an since surviving isn't that worth it most have enough of it and end it
+--- 28776372
+Yes, but they also have lower standards for life. 
+Men need women for happiness more than women need them. That doesn't mean a man can't make a woman happy, but if you see a single woman working as something like a teacher or even a lunch lady, she's usually pretty content. She has some sort of purpose, in society. 
+
+For whatever reason, a bachelor is just a sad sight. Like he's been defeated somehow. It might be an unfair generalization, but it might also be tied to the animal drive for reproduction. Every confirmed bachelor I know is a sad person, too. Always angry and hyper critical, far too timid to try things. 
+
+So yeah, men have it harder, because men have to impress a woman, and that can be hard, because the bare MINIMUM would be throwing yourself into a labor grindstone and generating enough money for her, and ideally you'd look like Chriss Pratt and have a college education. I guess we have it harder because competition is part of our identity, which also explains why we make more money.

adv/28760589.txt

@@ -753,3 +753,496 @@ No. I know her in real life but hardly ever see her because we don’t have any
 --- 28768721
 >>28768702
 Shit man what are you waiting for? Get her number and ask her out.
+--- 28768865
+Where does one find an autistic gf? Thought about looking around the accounting students at universities but I'm not actually sure.
+--- 28768905
+There's a barista at a coffee shop I visit once a week who compliments me every time we see each other. She keeps really good eye contact and has seirous pupil dilation, it's a dark place though. She's a little taller than me, has blue eyes, is white. As a shorter white guy, I only typically have luck with brown girls. I'll flirt or have a one night stand with a white girl, but either it doesn't go anywhere or I become disinterested really fast. But with this girl, she's been sticking in my mind. Her compliments are very flattering and unique, and I can tell she likes me, but as this is a regular place I go to, I don't want to ruin it. I'm not really making any moves at the speed I typically would because I have a GF right now who is probably the closest to a 10/10 I've ever had... but she's brown. So I can get and kind of maintain a gf for years and years but I wander around and I don't know if it's due to race or what.
+Next time I see her, I'm going to continue the convo we had last time and see if I can talk to her on her break at least. I just want to explore her a little more and see whats up.
+--- 28768939
+>>28768010
+Idk I’m learning as I go. IIRC you match up with one person at a time.
+--- 28768948
+>>28768012
+Thank you!! I’ll try to find meets near me :) have a great night! (Or day)
+--- 28769019
+I don't understand what this girl might be thinking please help?
+
+So I'm interested in talking to this girl who I have seen at school(sixth form in the UK so you can understand the age range) a bunch of times but haven't seen her since we went our different ways in 2021 summer. I haven't kept in touch because for all of the time I knew her and up until recently I had a gf and I wasn't looking to be a fuckboy. I especially kept my distance to other girls at that time because I didn't want any temptation on either side so I have no idea what she might be thinking about me. Because I am now single and lonely I want to start a conversation with her or at least know what she's up to so I can maybe run into her.
+
+Now up until very recently, like a week or so ago, this girl has ZERO online presence. She had an Instagram that she followed people on and stuff but 0 posts and never posts stories either. Googling her name only got you a linked In. So a week ago she made another Instagram where it's her name with a "private" at the end and it already has one post on it. I know it's definitely new because Instagram shows it's a new account.
+
+So having already been following her old account, I send a request to this new one and she just doesn't accept it, but doesn't deny it either. Ok maybe she didn't get the notification? So I cancel and send again, same shit. But she is accepting other requests because I see her "follower" and "following" count go up. Ok so maybe she doesn't deny requests just accepts the ones she wants and leaves the rest for later? I modified my Instagram alt account to look like someone else from the school we went to and ask to follow both her initial account and her new one. She accepts the request to her "main" one but denies the one for the private account. So she definitely goes through her follow requests and actively ignores mine.
+
+I don't know what the motive is here. If she wanted nothing to do with me she would just deny right? Ask any details btw
+--- 28769051
+>>28768948
+Best of luck. Come back with success stories when you inevitably gain some.
+--- 28769092
+>>28769019
+If she wanted you to contact her, she would make it very easy for you. Now you're running all over the place sending her a bunch of follow requests with alt accounts, you're missing the point. She is not interested in you.
+--- 28769093
+>>28768721
+I’ll go for it tomorrow
+--- 28769245
+>>28769019
+If she wanted to add you, she would have. Not everyone hits deny, mostly cause if you don't then they can't spam you with add friend requests.
+--- 28769476
+Someone please explain kissing to me.
+I've never kissed before, and I recently tried kissing a girl, but I felt absolutely nothing from it. I just leaned in and put my lips on her lips and pursed them a bit, and felt that they were a little wet. Is it because kisses are entirely emotional and I don't have enough feelings for her? Or is it that I was doing it wrong? Or maybe she was not doing it right either?
+I'm slightly autistic, please explain.
+--- 28769488
+>>28767501
+Um, yea finding people is always hard? The lesbian/LGBT+ community especially always feels like a smaller dating pool even in large cities. 
+
+Expanding your area for dating helps a bit, but more than anything you're just gonna be looking for a good while. Most people tend to enjoy vices (drinking, smoking, etc) so really you're just looking for someone who's not an ass that'll judge and push their choices onto you. It can be hard, but if you have other things in common then it's easier to focus on those things and enjoy eachothers company. 
+
+People like to feel like you're doing things 'together,' so it also helps to find ways to do so without caving. Most bars have non alcoholic options, so you both having a drink makes it feel less awkward then one person drinking alone. Also there are a lot of cool bars and places out there that offer more than just the alchohol. Themed bars let you enjoy the environment, bowling let's you do an activity together, and arcade bars are just the best. 
+
+As of smoking, weed smokers will always ask if you want some but good ppl won't push too hard. More than anything, they want some interesting conversations while high. My SO loves philosophical pondering, intellectual debates, and general long bonding talks when high. So it's less of the "do it with me" and more of the "be here, don't judge me, and let's hang."
+--- 28769520
+>>28769476
+It's the feelings. Kissing without the emotions is just an action that's pretty meh.
+--- 28769540
+Really wanted to ask for this girls number on the train, but the train was crazy crowded and we were stuck for like 15 min in between stops. She got off at a stop before me. What would you have done?
+--- 28769558
+>randomly met this autistic/shy girl online
+>been text pals for over a month
+>we practically text every other night for a couple hours
+>lately she's been adding a lot of smiley faces
+>last night she told me I 'make her day every time she sees me online'
+>ask her if she wants to have a virtual coffee sometime
+>'I might consider it'
+Is that a no? Anyone got any tips on how to play my cards from this point? 
+I would like to push this into a LDR.
+--- 28769597
+>>28762789
+"Im sort of seeing somebody" translates to "well im fucking someone now but i will hit you up to fuck when things get shaky"
+So just stay in touch and flirty and she will fuck you when her "current security"
+Falls thru
+--- 28769628
+>>28763642
+No its not over. Just dont cling to hard etc. cool guy/ignore her a bit . Wait a days or week and ask a question or something but then ignore her a bit. It tricks their weak brains into thinking you "are important and superior and a good mate" 
+Dont show them desperation
+--- 28769955
+good stuff https://youtu.be/nRvjjmvgnxc [Embed]
+--- 28769979
+>>28764548
+Get money and if that's not feasible you need to kill off your desire for women and accept that you are one of the 33% of men that die a virgin.
+--- 28769995
+What the fuck does she mean to mean? 
+
+Context is I made a funny prompt about 'giving me a 2/5ths of your soul' but this girl can't spell apparently
+--- 28770007
+>>28769995
+She's asking you to send her a vid of you maxing out on bench. If you're a DYEL it's over.
+--- 28770034
+>>28764548
+Do you really look that bad?
+--- 28770066
+>>28770007
+Lmao I thought of saying something to that effect too
+--- 28770072
+>>28764578
+>>28764835
+>>28769979
+>>28770034
+For the love of god stop replying to him. He’s a delusional narcissist who will never change. Earlier he tried to argue he is less attractive than Robert Hoge because he got married. He’s not interested in improvement.
+--- 28770073
+>>28769245
+Did you even read the post? I tested whether she is one of those people who "hits deny" and she does do that. So why not me?
+>>28769092
+You're also missing the point. Obviously she wouldn't actively want me to contact her, we weren't that close. And if I wanted to I could easily, I have her number. I'm just trying to understand what's going through her head
+--- 28770164
+>>28769558
+I think she's being flirty, you just need to tease back. Something like: "Might you consider Xday next week?" I'd advise against an LDR but let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
+--- 28770883
+What is the meta regarding height claims?
+I'm usually honest that I'm 5'6 but do women assume that I'm actually a couple inches shorter? If I claim 5'8 will they correctly assume that I am 5'6? Do they know that I would only be claiming 5'8 under the impression that they will correctly guess that I am a little shorter than that?
+--- 28771251
+>>28770164
+A bit late, but thanks anon. My dork brain somehow omited that possibility.
+--- 28771291
+There's this girl I'm in a talking stage online through bumble, she said she hasn't had sex for a month now. We talk about body counts. I told her I only have 2 with my 2 ex gfs and I only do it with a gf. Then she said she's the same with 2 body counts and she only does it with her bfs, doesn't have casual sex. But her last ex was a year ago. Like I said, she told me before she hasn't had sex for a month now. Should I ghost her? I'm looking for a serious relationship with a good partner. Is this bad??
+--- 28771308
+>>28770883
+Women unironically are obsessed with height to the point where they can instantly tell if you lie.
+
+I'm 168cm and lied about being 170cm and when I did the girl almost jumped and said "NO WAY YOU'RE MORE LIKE 168" which is my exact height. That's like a difference of less than half an inch in retard units.
+--- 28771342
+I was going to go to a park and do daygame today. But due to my fucking night shift work I couldn't sleep in the night even though I was off work, just woke up and it's past noon, and I have work this evening. So no park. Fuck my life.
+--- 28771349
+>>28761025
+Fitgirls are awesome but the problem is the 6.4 feet Chads get all the attention lol. The competition is way too hard if you're not in the top 1/10 of the gym. Believe me.
+--- 28771360
+I never get any matches on tinder. I only have one shit picture but whatever, I will delete that shit app again, and focus on IRL game. I downloaded it because I don't have time to go out this month. I normally don't use apps because I feel they lower my self-esteem. But I don't care about the women who reject me. In just two weeks or so 3 very young and very hot girls seemed like they were attracted to me:
+>one girl was walking with her boyfriend in a grocery store, stared at me
+>one girl also in a grocery store, stared at me and smiled
+>one girl asked me for a lighter even though a 7-eleven was like one minute away
+On tinder I only see women with education, career etc. No woman is too good for me, doesn't matter what her education or job is. I will start doing daygame again, and keep doing nightgame, and I don't give a fuck if a woman is a doctor or engineer or whatever, or has thousands of followers on instagram, or a nice house, etc etc, doesn't mean she's better than me.
+--- 28771380
+>>28771360
+>On tinder I only see women with education, career etc. No woman is too good for me, doesn't matter what her education or job is. I will start doing daygame again, and keep doing nightgame, and I don't give a fuck if a woman is a doctor or engineer or whatever, or has thousands of followers on instagram, or a nice house, etc etc, doesn't mean she's better than me
+Kek good luck with that wagie
+--- 28771391
+>>28771380
+Fuck off, I've fucked women with better job than me before, you're just jealous because you can't even approach at all.
+--- 28771396
+Is the key to success with women to make male friends/wingmen first, then go out with them and talk to girls together, and possibly get invited to parties? I made two male friends/wingmen at bars since a month or two back, but I've been busy working so I haven't had time to go out with them. One of them was going to go out with me but then he said he had a cold. I went out alone, met another guy, but he split from me when we got to the club, despite this he contacted me again. So I don't really have experience to tell if this will boost my game yet. I have had other wingmen but they were all shit. Hopefully these are better. The guy that split at the club was a shit wingman or no wingman at all but since he contacted me again I think I should give him another chance. The second bar we were at there was a girl who instantly started talking to him, she was with a friend. I approached the three of them after I had ordered a beer. So that was kind of being wingmen, that was the only talking to girls we did. Her friend seemed to also like him, but when I came over her expression changed and she showed clearly that she didn't like me. Oh and the first guy when I met him I pushed him to go talk to girls. But yeah we haven't really been wingmen yet, these two guys and I. And I'm a little afraid they won't want to meet because I was busy for so long. Anyway I'll try and if they ghost I'll find other guys. Hopefully having wingmen will boost my game. I was recently very close to fucking a hot girl but then when we got to my cabin on the boat where I met her and she asked if I was alone on the boat and I said yes she rejected me.
+--- 28771398
+>>28761025
+You just need to be really masculine and dominative.
+Not worth the effort through, unless you are time traveling chauvinist husband from 50's and it comes to you naturally.
+--- 28771415
+I'm 38 but I've noticed most girls who seem to like me look 15-20. I think I should try to focus on approaching girls in that age group.
+--- 28771439
+>>28771391
+Not him but how do you do it?
+--- 28771441
+It's weird, when I first started using tinder I matched with a hot girl within a few days, then nothing for weeks. And it was not a fake profile. We talked. She wanted to go for coffee. Then I changed my pic to one where I was wearing only underwear, then she unmatched, even though she herself had a similar picture. I would have unmatched her before trying that picture, but she didn't want to give me any other contact info.
+--- 28771443
+>>28771308
+>Women unironically are obsessed with height to the point where they can instantly tell if you lie.
+thats ridiculous and you know thats a lie
+every 5'7 to 5'9 man says theyre 6feet
+
+They generally just want a man thats TALLER than them so they can feel safe
+--- 28771449
+>>28771439
+No different from what I do with other women. Most women have a better job than me. I don't give a fuck what a woman's job is, and if they don't like my job they can fuck off I don't care.
+--- 28771454
+>>28771308
+Bullshit. Women are absolutely shit at telling height.
+--- 28771469
+>>28771441
+You're both superficial cunts.
+--- 28771482
+>>28771469
+fuck off fat woman
+--- 28771492
+>>28771449
+wrong question. What do you say to them? Are you attractive
+--- 28771511
+>>28771492
+fuck off
+--- 28771512
+I don't get what game is but I recognise how important it is. How do I work on my game and actually make steady progress with it?
+--- 28771518
+>>28771512
+humor is your friend
+
+light teasing
+--- 28771549
+>>28771512
+Game, to me, is knowing when to tease, joke, flirt, and compliment (and knowing how far is too far for any of these), and especially important is how to use body language to communicate interest (girls go wild for non-verbal cues).
+It is something that comes naturally with reading and practice. Just keep trying and thinking and you will get better.
+
+Game is the difference between 
+>EXCUSE ME MISS YOUR EYES ARE REALLY PRETTY WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND PLEASE
+and
+>Wow, I couldn't help but notice your eyeshadow. It looks really nice, I like it.
+>Oh thanks tee hee *(you gauge her reaction here)*
+>Hey, are you busy? Do you want to get a cup of coffee?
+Bad, extreme examples but they demonstrate my point.
+--- 28771550
+>>28771518
+I don't understand the difference between lightly bantering a male friend and teasing a girl for game. Is the latter more sexual?
+--- 28771560
+>>28771549
+I see. That kind of answers my question.
+I'm someone that's looking to get better at game (I'm not so physically attractive at this point in time in my life so online dating seems to be off the table). Is there an systematic way to analyse and criticise my game?
+--- 28771576
+>>28771560
+The closest thing to a systematic approach is to just talk to girls and assess their reactions to what you do and say. You will get better at it naturally as you practice.
+For outright advice I suggest looking at all the various dating advice subreddits.
+--- 28771598
+>>28771576
+That seems like a good route. Trial and error is bread and butter. Thanks for answering my questions so far. 
+I just have one more, where should I meet women to practise on on a regular basis? I go to work at a mostly guys workplace and do nothing but gym. I'm planning on volunteering at a local charity shelter but that's not for the purpose of meeting females. I have no friends or such.
+--- 28771603
+>>28771511
+I'm just asking wtf is your problem? U autistic schizo faggot
+--- 28771641
+>>28771603
+I already said it's the same as all women faggot. I'm not going to lay out everything I've ever done with women, hundreds of approaches, fuck off.
+--- 28771674
+>be me
+>in the bar of a club
+>a guy starts talking to me
+>immediately asks what I do for a living
+>shows clearly he's disgusted and unimpressed
+>walks away a few sentences later
+Like motherfucker YOU started talking to me, you don't need to talk to me fuck off. Fucking idiot. I think that only says something about him. People with class don't approach someone and then if you don't like them you show it clearly, making their night worse, you just move on, his behavior just shows that he has no class.
+
+And no I'm not gay, nor was he probably. You know people on here are fat neckbeards when you can't mention you talked to guys without people thinking you're gay and you go to bars to find men to fuck. Cool guys talk to other guys when they go to bars/clubs, not like desperate needy chuds who stand alone in a corner looking for their prey, looking pissed off.
+--- 28771693
+>>28771598
+Literally anywhere. Go into town and just speak to women. Your success rate will be slim but you will be able to practice and get better at talking to them. The trick is to remember that they won't even remember you 10 minutes afterwards and stop caring when you get rejected.
+--- 28771737
+>>28771550
+no
+
+i mean it can be when you are alone on a date, but light teasing can be about anything
+
+a girl i like is really into hockey and told me she felt bad for opposing teams, so instead i prop her team up and make fun of the other ones
+--- 28771832
+Is there any specific advice I should keep in mind for a second date or is it really just more of the same as the first date, but escalating where appropriate?
+--- 28771835
+>>28771441
+>when I first started using tinder I matched with a hot girl within a few days, then nothing for weeks. 
+The app intentionally boosts new profiles to get you addicted. When I first started OLD I was getting dozens of matches a day on each app for a week. Now I get about 5-10 across all of them per week.
+--- 28771974
+>girl has her instagram name in her tinder profile
+>I'm out of swipes
+>text her on instagram
+>she replies
+>"fake profile, no followers or following!"
+>tell her you have 0 pictures yourself
+>"not the same thing bla bla bla I delete them bla bla bla you have something to hide!"
+>tell her say you who delete your pictures
+>"stop texting me!"
+fucking women are dumb, fuck this gay ass culture
+--- 28771976
+>>28771835
+nobody cares fuck off
+--- 28771979
+>>28771976
+It's clearly relevant to his post since he bothered to mention it. Just providing some clarity, friend.
+--- 28772018
+>>28771979
+How is your profile? Multiple good photos or just one shitty photo?
+--- 28772021
+>>28771979
+>It's clearly relevant to his post since he bothered to mention it.
+Mention what? Learn to write coherently dumbass.
+--- 28772037
+>>28772018
+Many good photos with what I feel is a descriptive but playful bio.
+I don't want to post my profile on here but the star picture imo is of me, drunk, doing a retarded pose which coincidentally shows off my musculature. It shows that I am playful, good-looking, and the exact facial expression makes it look like it was taken in the moment while me and the boys were in the middle of something silly.
+
+>>28772021
+I'm referring to the tendency for men to get a lot of matches when first using the app then few after the first week or so. Sorry, it seemed very obvious that this is what I was talking about considering I quoted it in my post.
+--- 28772043
+>>28772037
+you probably aren't much more attractive you just have a better profile
+--- 28772053
+>>28772037
+>>I'm referring to the tendency for men to get a lot of matches when first using the app then few after the first week or so. Sorry, it seemed very obvious that this is what I was talking about considering I quoted it in my post.
+You write like a retard
+--- 28772056
+alright /adv/ I did it. I have a date with a woman and we've established pretty much that it's pure for sex. I'm confident in my abilities but I still want to go out of my way to make this experience really really fucking great for her so I can turn this into a regular thing without the nag of being in a relationship. 
+I'm going to her place, we have an entire day together. It's been a few months since I had a sex marathon like that so give me some good tips regarding stamina increase, what fluids to drink, maybe some pills to pop for good blood flow down there. Also I'm confident of my pussy eating skills but she says she has never squirted and I wanna do my best to make her squirt. Lay it on me Kings, you've gotten me this far.
+--- 28772074
+>>28772043
+I think I'm pretty attractive but yeah the key for men is to have a good profile. I put a lot of thought and effort into it and I think it serves me well.
+
+>>28772053
+Who cares? Lol
+--- 28772091
+>>28772074
+>Who cares?
+People who read your shitty dumb posts
+--- 28772100
+>>28772085
+>>28772091
+Sucks to be you then, bro
+--- 28772116
+>>28772100
+>he made a typo!
+great comeback retard
+--- 28772268
+Good morning I fuck women
+--- 28772299
+>>28771396
+How's meeting men going for you? Did they fuck you?
+--- 28772304
+>>28771674
+Bad news anon, turns out you're gay
+--- 28772371
+>NOOOOO the black isnt real here look at these men who are 0.002% of the exception
+get real. Its 99.99% about your looks. 
+The other part is not being literally insane to the point where you cant have a prolonged interaction with another human bean. Id say dont be retarded or a psychopath, but retards and violent criminals get laid all the time
+--- 28772379
+>you cant get a GF huh? Its easy bro, just establish a social circle, have friends, have a job, go out, work on yourself, lift, dont be a poorfag, have hobbies other than GAYming or something autistic, be funny, be entertaining, dont be creepy, memorise 500 approach openers and conversation topics, etc
+why do people say this? Its almost like they actually believe it.
+I go outside. I know people. Plenty of people that are successful with women dont do any of those things, or have any of those things, and if they do its usually "have friends" and thats partly selection bias because Im more likely to meet social people. Plenty of ascoial autists have GFs
+
+Heres the real reason: Its 99% about your looks. thats it. thats everything there is. Everything else is just meant to distract you, so you dont become an incel terrorist or commit sudoku when you realise the facts of the matter
+
+games over before it started if youre unattractive. Its not about the hand youre dealt but how youre playing your cards, and you got dealt no hand
+--- 28772684
+>>28772379
+whenever you incels post face 9/10 times you look average or slightly below average. you're mentally fucked up and cope with lookism to get out of trying.
+--- 28772716
+>>28772684
+Ive tried for 17 years
+The older I get the less success I have. At 14 I had girlfriends and couldve gotten laid but I didnt till much later
+
+in my 20s its just been hell, I get 0 interest from non-obese chicks
+--- 28772791
+>>28760589 (OP)
+Im wondering if there is a chance for me , Ive got a decent job , my own place and hobbies. However Im autistic , type 1 diabetic ( manage it well ) and technically a virgin at 38. Is there hope ? I gave up on dating apps because they are just too depressing
+--- 28773075
+how do i tell if the receptionist is just being polite or something more?
+--- 28773606
+>unemployed and living with my parents so i have loads of free time to work on my business and socialise
+or
+>independent and working but with little time or energy to work on my business or touch grass
+which one gets me more women? i'm still pretty young (early to mid 20s)
+--- 28773711
+>>28773606
+Neither get any women on its own. Alternatively, either can get women, because the most important component is sociability. Better job or more money or whatever helps get better women, but only if you're sociable enough to meet people in the first place. If you aren't sociable, developing your social skill should be your primary goal in life, as literally every other goal you have for the rest of your life will be undermined by that lack. 
+
+If you're too tired after work to do anything in your early/mid 20s you should see a doctor immediately.
+--- 28773755
+>>28773711
+ah ok I'll greentext the rest of my life to give you a better picture
+>autistic and weird but becoming more socially calibrated and charismatic because I'm always touching grass
+>meet girls at indie rock gigs and young artists events, 
+>often try cold approach if I see a qt in a bookstore/thrift shop/museum/etc that I'm at anyway
+>shitload of casual acquaintances and everyone that's known me for the past 3-4 years thinks pretty highly of me, but no proper close friends
+how am I doing breh?
+--- 28773773
+>>28773711
+>>28773755
+forgot to respond to this but
+>If you're too tired after work to do anything in your early/mid 20s you should see a doctor immediately.
+yeah you're probably right lol
+--- 28773774
+>>28773075
+She's a receptionist, she's just being polite.
+--- 28773785
+>>28772791
+Try invincible by David Tian and the ace formula by Adam Lyons
+--- 28773787
+>>28773774
+how to woo receptionist, she's super duper cute.
+--- 28773805
+>that mid 20s virgin loser who finally got his shit together and learnt social skills
+do i date 18-22 year olds or women my age?
+--- 28773822
+I don't understand how you're meant to "get women" if you've lost the genetic lottery. I've tried harder than most at looksmaxxing, and it hasn't made a goddamn difference. I haven't had any dates or the slightest hint of female interest. Women are completely oblivious to me. What can you do? I can't fix my shitty genetics. I can't force women to be attracted to me. It's absolutely hopeless.
+--- 28774012
+>>28773822
+>It's absolutely hopeless.
+I have no interest in convincing you there's hope. Just go to work, come home, and vidya/animu til you die.
+--- 28774055
+>>28774012
+That does appear to be my fate. It's not my fault. I've done everything I can but it's not good enough. Women don't care about your struggle. They don't care how far you've come. That's why they'd rather date the cute guy dressed bummy, or the guy who only has to work out 10% as hard as you to look 100x better, purely due to genetics.
+--- 28774069
+>>28773822
+>>28774055
+Don’t reply to him, he’s gotten plenty of advice and refuses to engage with any of it, he’s a hopeless case.
+--- 28774111
+>>28774069
+Stfu gatekeeper. No one has ever given me any serious advice. Don't make shitty excuses for this board failing to do what it's designed for.
+--- 28774692
+there’s a couple of women who will always text me first and act dtf but they are blunt and boring to talk to and always avoid actually meeting up to fuck
+
+is this just an attention whore thing? i’m not trying to force anything but it’s getting kinda annoying getting messaged almost every day
+--- 28774697
+>>28774111
+Stfu gatekeeper, you can't decide what excuse is or isn't good
+--- 28774776
+>>28773822
+take the trannypill. I have faith that you will find love if you become the submissive femboy that you were clearly always meant to be. You’re in the wrong thread tho
+--- 28774891
+>>28774697
+You have no idea what you're talking about. Attraction is biologically deterministic. All you faggots live in some just-world fallacy bubble where if someone hasn't got a girlfriend it's simply because they don't want one or haven't tried. Because everyone gets what they deserve right? And it's not like the women have any say in the matter? Don't you see how facile and asinine this bootstraps mentality is? 
+>>28774776
+I don't have autogynephilia, sorry.
+--- 28774972
+>girl fishes for my attention
+>Rejects me when asked out.
+>Continues to fish for my attention
+Cunt
+--- 28775008
+Lads is having zero social media considered weird or a red flag?
+--- 28775071
+>>28772299
+>>28772304
+Neckbeards
+--- 28775144
+>>28772056
+Eh, I don't know much about dick pills besides Viagra. I take tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis for a testosterone boost, which should help you get hype for sex. I also stopped masturbating, no porn either. I can fuck for hours, raw dog, not sure what exactly I can attribute it to. Just pay attention to her and experiment. I just sorta tune into what she wants and do it.
+--- 28775361
+>Sex with girl on 7th date on Wednesday
+>She sleeps over and we have sex again before she goes home
+>She becomes distant as far as texting is concerned for the next few days, I hardly talk to her 
+>I think she’s going to end it but I stay calm and just carry on and wait for her to eventually respond 
+>going out with her again tonight and she seems excited 
+What happened? I really thought she was gonna dump me because she pulled away. Was it a test?
+--- 28775372
+Has anyone had any luck with getting over trust issues with women? even many years before I was exposed to the red/blackpill stuff, several events happened that made me see them as swindlers and liers, who just want to destroy and humiliate me
+--- 28775481
+>>28775372
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xjMociMHI0 [Embed]
+--- 28775563
+>>28775361
+Don't be so fucking insecure. Maybe she just needed some space to think about things. You did good by not blowing up her phone, never do that. Never look needy
+--- 28775572
+I believe some men are just undesirable to women no matter what. When I was young, I was forced to watch as every other kid got a girlfriend. Now I'm an oldfag and I'm forced to watch as every other guy gets a girlfriend or wife. Nothing has changed. Women still don't consider me worthy of their attention or affection. I've tried to be the best version of myself, but my best clearly isn't good enough. Maybe some of us really are doomed by forces outside of our control?
+--- 28775673
+>>28775572
+>forced to watch
+
+fucking kek dude victim complex. you could have chosen to look at yourself and strive to improve yourself to be more compatible with a potential partner. you could have lowered your standards and started banging fat trailer trash bitches.
+
+but nah you were FORCED TO WATCH us all get our dicks wet. grow up dude
+--- 28775735
+>>28775673
+Here's the thing, I've probably been more introspective than the average asshole. I've had many sleepless nights trying to figure out what's so unappealing about me compared to all the assholes with gfs, and what can I do about it? I've tried to be myself, I've tried to be someone else, none of it's ever worked. Meanwhile, it happens naturally for everyone else. That's why I'm convinced that I'm simply trying to fight my genetic destiny.
+--- 28775745
+>>28773606
+>>28773711
+better job won't necessarily improve your dating life. the guy with the stressful high paying job working long hours doesn't have time to meet and date women. broke/unemployed guy has tons of free time and so does the already wealthy guy. the company man does not.
+--- 28775760
+>>28775735
+post face or stop shitting up every single thread
+--- 28775782
+>>28773805
+>do i date 18-22 year olds or women my age?
+18-22 year olds. younger, more fun, less pressure.
+--- 28775793
+>>28775760
+There's people on here posting selfies of other people for "advice" just so you guys can roast them. I'm not stupid enough to post my face here.
+--- 28775800
+>>28760589 (OP)
+Yoo, looking for the statistics of women who have reached gnosis and are searching for the kali yuga, if there are
+--- 28775864
+>>28773755
+>>meet girls at indie rock gigs and young artists events,
+>>often try cold approach if I see a qt in a bookstore/thrift shop/museum/etc that I'm at anyway
+How you do this and what's the success rate?
+--- 28775865
+>>28770073
+Still no response to this. I just don't know what to do to approach in this situation
+--- 28775866
+>>28775572
+how do you write the same thing everyday? lol its beyond trolling now. you are confirmed mentally ill
+--- 28775939
+>>28775793
+You're actually more stupid, wasting your one and only life before you no longer exist publicly writhing in misery as though your suffering affects us, whining to people who won't or can't help you, and intentionally undermining people who can otherwise make it– when you could instead be satisfactorily coping with Otome games, Harem anime, heroin, or calling random kids nigger on CoD. 
+
+Like what are you even doing man? There are more hours of cope material than you could possibly get through in your life. Go indulge.
+--- 28775992
+After a month or 2 of inconsistently using feeld, I finally got a match? What do I say to her?
+--- 28776153
+What's the point of wanting a girlfriend ?
+They're all used up whores.
+--- 28776252
+>>28775735
+What are you hobbies and interests? If you tell me videogames or anime I am going to tell you to try again. You need to find hobbies that force you to be around normies. 
+
+Whats your fitness level and whats your routine? You can be fit as fuck but you need to do more than some lame ass bro-split in the gym. Find some kind of extreme sport or activity to get into, that kind of stuff is super attractive and builds character. Ex- Mountain biking, martial arts (stick with judo or BJJ), rock climbing, adult hockey leagues. Find something you like, its a wide world. If you cant afford anything like this then you have another thing you can work on.
+--- 28776279
+>>28776153
+The point is that no matter how sound your logical argument is constructed, your brain craves a gf. Not only does it crave one, it rewards you for having one, and punishes you for not having one. I think that is sufficient reason. Keep yourself sufficiently emotionally detached, don't fall for the romance story BS, and you'll be fine. 
+
+>>28776252
+Hey retard, stop replying to him. I can't expect you to listen to me because you're a retard, but I'm telling you anyways retard to keep my own lawn clean. Don't reply to him or posts that look like it could be him, retard. He's been in every thread for weeks, repeating the exact same shitposts, retard. Save your time and only reply to people who want to put in work, not asking to be convinced by others to put in work. It's very rare that any amount of logic can overcome emotions, and this fag is another shining example of normalcy
+--- 28776447
+>>28774891
+shut up ugly ass incel, fuck off with your busted ass elephant man lookin face
+--- 28776451
+>>28775071
+at least I'm not a faggot

adv/28761618.txt

@@ -33,3 +33,22 @@ Just eat cheese and chives
 --- 28768046
 >>28761618 (OP)
 Just relax in your room with the AC turned up to max.
+--- 28769536
+>>28766843
+>>28767999
+>>28768046
+YOU'LL BE BURIED IN MASS GRAVES
+--- 28770757
+die
+--- 28771319
+>>28761618 (OP)
+Wouldn't know. I have no regrets since I'm the MC of real life.
+--- 28773100
+>>28771319
+YOU'LL BE FUCKING DISMEMBERED
+--- 28773462
+>>28769536
+you'll be archived in missed threads
+--- 28775846
+>>28773462
+YOU'LL BE FUCKING GUTTED

adv/28764764.txt

@@ -43,3 +43,38 @@ Well, actually I prolly could list off some things but you go first lol
 --- 28768635
 >>28764764 (OP)
 Speaking from experience? Not very well.
+--- 28770672
+>>28764764 (OP)
+Not good
+--- 28770717
+you will try to start escaping into escapist fantasy or imagined scenarios to get the validation and socialization that you lack.
+you get stuck in a ruminative loop of depression, self-analysis, self-imposed isolation and withdrawal, etc. this worsens everything else.
+you will inherently compare yourself to every peer who seemingly has no issues with these things and wonder what they have that you lack. you will conclude something is fundamentally wrong with yourself
+you will get inherently more self-conscious and self-hating. the self-consciousness will make you more socially awkward, which will fuel increasing self-hatred and rumination in a feedback loop
+you will try to find alternative sources of validation and meaning. you will try to find fulfillment in your career or elsewhere in your life. it will never fill the hole left by no socialization. Humans are social creatures and don't function well on their own. Your overall health is dependent on multiple elements - if one thing is doing bad it spills over into the others. 
+Your overall health will decline based on your mental state. Isolation and loneliness can reduce your life expectancy significantly and have similar effects to eating like shit, smoking, etc. 
+you will get increasingly desperate with time as you fail to find fulfillment in other avenues of your life. your naive sense that things might change in the future fades as you get older and older.
+you will likely to turn to suicide increasingly, after years of anhedonia and depression. You eventually get to a point you simply stop caring. The only benefit to being alone is at least you won't be able to justify yourself as a burden on others, but you'd still may conclude that based interactions with peers/coworkers/etc.
+--- 28770818
+>>28764764 (OP)
+You become perfect.
+--- 28771752
+This never actually happens though
+--- 28773500
+>>28771752
+Happens to me
+--- 28773512
+Nothing, psychology is not real
+--- 28773555
+>>28770717
+This is pretty damn accurate, especially
+>you will try to find alternative sources of validation and meaning. you will try to find fulfillment in your career or elsewhere in your life
+Sometimes I think I've found fulfillment through shit like lifting, getting good at my hobbies, and pursuing my dream, but even though these are things I genuinely love, when I try and fail to make a connection with somebody it feels like I put in all of that effort for nothing. It's not that I do those things for validation from others, but having nobody to share anything is just fucking crushing so I think to myself "why bother?"
+--- 28775293
+>>28773512
+Not having a girlfriend is also real
+--- 28775326
+You die
+--- 28775409
+>>28775326
+Yikes

adv/28764914.txt

@@ -98,3 +98,787 @@ The blackpill is a fuckin LIE 100%
 Why tf you posting twomad, the most based motherfucker ever? Dude is slamming the bathwater lady.
 --- 28768797
 He's part black. Ofcourse he ugly
+--- 28768801
+>>28764914 (OP)
+>>28765102
+
+Y'all are picking literally the ugliest angles and weakest moments. He's an anglemaxxer and in tip top shape - ""oh gee, I wonder why he's considered attractive?"
+--- 28768810
+>>28768801
+>part negro
+>balding
+lol
+
+lmao even
+--- 28768831
+>>28768506
+>Every college frat bro normie loves Tate and every kid under 22 on tiktok at least knows who he is.
+no.
+
+He's almost entirely exclusively an incel meme, given that's his entire audience.
+
+Ironically I found out about him long before he got really popular through YMH podcast which is ran by a couple of middle aged comedians who are married with kids - they just laughed and laughed at him. back in his green screen days.
+--- 28768837
+>>28765095
+>personality clearly plays a larger role than looks
+See I don't agree that this disproves the blackpill. Because imo it's much harder to change your personality as an adult than it is to improve your looks. Unless you are a complete psychopath that is.
+--- 28768844
+>>28768801
+>he's considered attractive
+to you, maybe
+
+even purely from a nohomo bodybuilder aesthetic perspective, his proportions are all fucked up
+--- 28768845
+>>28764914 (OP)
+he only convinced stupid guys of that tho.
+--- 28768884
+>>28768831
+>no
+Youre literally in denial of reality. This guy gets millions of views worldwide. There was a rally in Greece of young men gathering to chant free andrew tate.
+Normie bros worship the guy you gotta go outside more
+--- 28768919
+>>28768884
+>This guy gets millions of views worldwide.
+Fuckin zoomer thinks millions of views on youtube is worth anything
+
+>There was a rally in Greece
+Greece invented mental illness, amongst other things. It's also a 4th world country at this point, relative to the rest of Western Europe, I wouldn't use it as a sample for what's going on in the rest of the world.
+--- 28768937
+>>28768919
+shit dude all I gotta say is touch grass
+Ive been on this site since 2013 and I learned about tate from frat bros at my university IDK where youre at but Im in southern california chadville
+--- 28768943
+>things that destroy the blackpill
+Going outside and meeting strangers
+--- 28768960
+>>28768937
+frat bros can be incels too, they may not have the typical computer programmer phenotype, but they can have dogshit social skills and not know how to talk to women or most people, just the same as pic related
+
+like if you were already getting laid or dating, why would you sit there and listen to some guy giving out terrible relationship/dating advice?
+--- 28768967
+>>28768960
+Whatever bro clearly your autism computer brain has come to a conclusion and no counter example can exist in the framework
+maybe if you werent such a disagreeable weird faggot youd have friends
+--- 28768972
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Sean Stephenson.
+--- 28768978
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Robert Hoge
+--- 28768982
+>>28764914 (OP)
+>He convinced the world hes an attractive player
+No, he told the world, and the world generally chortled, giggled, and snickered - for better or worse. You can't debunk the blackpill because it's true.
+>>28765095
+Yet he's still ginger and his kids will be gingers, unless he doesn't have kids in which case he is for the question at hand a nonentity. Either way the blackpill remains unrefuted.
+--- 28768983
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Post face OP, you are definitely a Total Aesthetic Chad
+--- 28768985
+>>28768978
+The baby knows whats up.
+--- 28768998
+>>28764914 (OP)
+t. brokie
+--- 28769005
+>>28768967
+I have friends and none of them are fuckin incels that watch youtube video of andrew tate and whoever else you think is cool and basedpilled
+--- 28769157
+>>28768983
+--- 28769323
+>>28768960
+He is funny so people hear about him from that. They don't subscribe to hustlers university they just see him say reading is for people with slow brains or whatever
+--- 28769374
+just because you can get a girl to let you bounce on top of her that doesn't mean any girl will ever actually love you
+--- 28769889
+Maybe Top G went to prison for 3 months but you are here forever. Face the facts brokies.
+--- 28769923
+morbidly obese, self sabotaging, insecure, hot tempered, Mediterranean physiognomy and IQ
+
+literal millionaire from talking. fucked Rachel sennott and has no problem picking up girls after sets
+--- 28769936
+spottemgottem is successful. the black pill literally cannot exist
+--- 28771513
+>>28764914 (OP)
+--- 28771522
+>>28764914 (OP)
+he mogs me facially and achieved top 0.1% wealth and fame. you're a gay nigger and i hope you die. ywn debunk the blackpill. even retards like wheat waffles haven't ever lost debates against the best debaters out there like destiny
+--- 28771542
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Take away Tate's money and fame and he's still a 6'3 professional kickboxer with good communication skills
+--- 28771573
+>>28771513
+My personal favorite 
+She was inches taller, much more famous, 20 times richer, over 20 years younger, and a literal supermodel.
+Yet she married the short, pudgy, balding, ugly guy.
+Blackpill believers everywhere pretend it never happened
+--- 28771582
+>>28771522
+>I am even uglier than the blading guy with bulging eyes and a bad chin
+Dude, I am so sorry
+--- 28771606
+>>28766568
+Twomad actually doesn't look half bad nowadays, he lost a lot of weight.
+--- 28771841
+ITT - the typical Blackpill "move the goalposts" retreat method is shown, if a bit blurry
+Blackpillers
+>"WOMEN ONLY WANT VERY TALL VERY GOOD LOOKING MEN!"
+Once that is debunked with real world examples, Blackpillers retreat by moving the goal posts to
+>WOMEN ONLY WANT VERY HANDSOME MEN *OR* VERY TALL MEN!
+Once that is debunked with real world examples, Blackpillers retreat by moving the goal posts to
+>WOMEN ONLY WANT TALL MEN OR HANDSOME MEN OR FAMOUS MEN!
+Once that is debunked with real world examples, Blackpillers retreat by moving the goal posts to
+>WOMEN ONLY WANT TALL MEN OR HANDSOME MEN OR FAMOUS MEN OR RICH MEN!
+Once that is debunked with real world examples, Blackpillers retreat by moving the goal posts to
+>WOMEN ONLY GO FOR NOT TALL/HANDSOME/FAMOUS/RICH MEN AFTER THEY HAVE HAD 300 SEXUAL PARTNER BY AGE 19 AND WANT TO SETTLE DOWN AND THEY *ALWAYS* CHEAT!
+Once that is debunked with real world examples, Blackpillers retreat by moving the goal posts to
+>OUTLIERS! OUTLIERS! 75% OF ALL RELATIONSHIPS ARE OUTLIERS! OUTLIERS!
+Go through the archives for this image.
+You will find scores of time Blackpillers have claimed the guy in the pic is a top Chad because of his *good genetics*.
+Not even kidding.
+--- 28771853
+>>28771582
+well there is good reason to be sorry (not you specifically, but OP at least), the blackpill is real and my looksmatch is getting railed by 9/10s while calling me a subhuman that shouldn't be in the genepool
+--- 28771905
+>>28771853
+>the blackpill is a psyop that iditos fall for
+FTFY, idiot
+--- 28772294
+>>28771905
+you'd hang yourself if you had to walk a mile in an sub 5 male's shoes
+--- 28772353
+>>28772294
+see
+>>28771841
+It isn't the "sub 5" status that makes you suicidal, it is believing in the demoralizing psyop of the blackpill
+--- 28772354
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Recognizing that Andrew Tate was putting on a character and just the latest grifter for angry young man is the barrier to entry to being a functioning human. If you couldn’t do that you should be shipped off to the suicide net factories.
+--- 28772389
+>>28772354
+lmao I think the majority of people believe everything he says at face value
+--- 28772449
+>>28772353
+that guy's retarded though. saying that women are willing to settle for a guy that's only 6' tall because he's also handsome is not moving the goalposts from
+>women date attractive and tall men
+women obviously don't only date supermodels, but they will always pick the best option when it comes to looks and sub 5's don't have looks going for them.
+--- 28772709
+>>28771542
+>he's still a 6'3 professional kickboxer
+he's long-retired, he was mediocre with a padded record.
+>with good communication skills
+he's also retarded
+--- 28772724
+>>28772449
+>but they will always pick the best option when it comes to looks
+No not really, it stops being about looks roughly like 10 minutes into the first date. When it comes to MARRIAGE anyone with at least two functioning brain cells will marry their partner's personality basically.
+
+I mean there's plenty of colossal idiots who only marry for looks, and they just get divorced every 10 years or so and eventually die alone or as a billionaire 80 year who has to split his estate between 15 different 19 year old ex-wives.
+--- 28772839
+>>28765095
+>>28768972
+>>28768978
+>>28771513
+We get it, that you spen literally HOURS, collecting all those cherry picking pictures.
+What's next? Are those photos supposed to prove anything? 
+Fucking nigger
+--- 28772864
+>>28772839
+Im OP and I only posted 2 of these. 
+If this thread can give 1 blackpilled incel hope then it is all worth it.
+--- 28772919
+blackpill is factual
+--- 28772954
+>>28772449
+>>but they will always pick the best option when it comes to looks
+see
+>but they will always pick the best option when it comes to looks
+Looks matter FAR LESS to women than to men.
+Women want security, men want arm candy.
+--- 28772980
+>>28772919
+Blackpill is proven wrong BY THE GRAPH YOU POSTED.
+Women are 10 times as likely to message a lowest-rated man that a man to message a lowest rated woman.
+Women are almost 1/20th as likely to message the highest rated men and men are to message the highest rated women.
+That chart you posted combined with the messaging rates *PROVES* that men's physical appearance is just not that important to women, not NEARLY as important as it is to men.
+>"B-b-b-but muh 'women think most men are below average'"
+No, they don't.
+The rating of men's appearance is simply not a Normal Distribution.
+--- 28772985
+>>28772954
+>Women want security, men want arm candy.
+Please, be even more stereotypical with your bullshit.
+
+This thread is like the fuckin parable of blind men trying to describe an elephant, only it's incels trying to figure out dating.
+
+>BWAH FEMALES WANT MONEY
+>NO THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT LOOKS
+>NO IT'S MEN WHO ONLY CARES ABOUT LOOKS
+>PERSONALITY ISN'T REAL
+>ANDREW TATE IS COOL ACTUALLY AND HE HAS A FULL HEAD OF HAIR
+
+>>28772919
+Have you ever SEEN what guys look like? Bro if I was a girl I'd be such a lesbian.
+--- 28773001
+Like this guy said
+>>28772919
+>>28772980
+You morons need to learn how to read graphs
+--- 28773009
+>>28772724
+>No not really, it stops being about looks roughly like 10 minutes into the first date
+i've never gotten a first date. i'm not an aspie, i can talk to them fine. 
+>When it comes to MARRIAGE
+as boosie badass said
+>you're rich if you marry a bitch
+i don't care about marriage, as getting the same intimacy as an 7 year old can get is impossible for me, let alone marrying someone
+>>28772954
+you're an idiot. 
+inb4 adhom
+if you can't figure out for yourself why you've been called an idiot, you're a MASSIVE idiot
+--- 28773012
+>>28772985
+Of the many differences between you and me one of the most important ones right now is that I am married with kids.
+Women are not a monolith that all thinks alike but IN GENERAL other factors are more important than a man's appearance.
+--- 28773021
+>>28773009
+You
+>"i've never gotten a first date"
+also you
+>I know what women want
+--- 28773031
+>>28773021
+i certainly know what they don't want, faggot.
+--- 28773034
+>>28773021
+This is the exact kind of cognitive dissonance that all blackpillers have. They cant distinguish internet psyops from real life. I genuinely feel bad for them since they are usually young and impressionable and stunt their own growth by thinking improvement is impossible. The entire point of your teens and 20s is to self improve.
+--- 28773041
+>>28773012
+And you're fine with your wife being a dumb hot bitch doesn't have a job? Just le eye candy? And you wife just sees you as a bank account?
+--- 28773043
+>>28773031
+describe, in detail, the last time you talked to a woman friend of yours
+--- 28773049
+>>28773021
+[Bo Burnham voice] Welcome, to the internet.
+--- 28773053
+>>28773043
+talked to a new female coworker 2 days ago. she told me about her boyfriend.
+--- 28773063
+>>28773041
+My wife is rather intelligent and quite competent in a range of areas. We love each other very much and care for one another. I am a rather average-looking to even ugly man and she is, yes, very pretty.
+>huuuuurrrr if men think appearance is important then they ONLY value appearance. duuuuur if women value things other than appearance they only want duuuuuuhhhhh money
+That's pretty fucking reatrded, bud. You might want to see a doctor
+--- 28773065
+>>28773053
+>in detail
+--- 28773069
+>>28773049
+NGL, stealing that format
+--- 28773076
+>>28773021
+Just imagine saying
+>NASA scientist
+>have never been in space
+>also you
+>I know how space works
+
+Jesus fucking Christ, those normalfags are SO stupid 
+>>28772864
+>If this thread can give 1 blackpilled incel hope then it is all worth it.
+Lmao, what a retard.
+--- 28773089
+>>28773065
+wasn't much more to it. i introduced myself, she gave me her name, we talked about punk music (i'm not gay, it's what she likes), and then she told me that her boyfriend will be picking her up. later that day he did, and he was as i pictured him to be, significantly better looking than her.
+--- 28773094
+>>28773076
+Im not that guy Im OP. I used to be an incel all the way back when r/incels was a thing
+Now 5 years later Ive fucked over 30 girls and have a lovely gf. Its never truly over unless you think it is.
+--- 28773111
+>>28773094
+>I used to be an incel all the way back when r/incels was a thing
+>Now 5 years later Ive fucked over 30 girls and have a lovely gf
+You NEVER were an incel. Just fuck off with all those dogshit ""advices""
+--- 28773116
+>>28773063
+Did I misquote the wrong post or something? You said
+
+>Women want security, men want arm candy.
+
+No. People want more than one thing. I certainly don't want "arm candy"
+--- 28773118
+>>28773053
+I said
+>female FRIEND
+--- 28773122
+got another one
+--- 28773127
+>>28773111
+alright bro never improve.
+Im just trying to help because examples like this would help motivate me when I was at my lowest. Call my a brainlet or a normie or whatever but trust me Ive been through the same shit as you.
+--- 28773132
+>>28773076
+>going to 4chan to read what other KHHV incels who are too afraid of women to talk to them (like me) is JUST LIKE having a PhD in astrophysics! That is why I, who have never had an intimate discussion with any woman, can lecture guys GFs as well as married men on what women REALLY think
+If you didn't seem to actually mean it, that would be hilarious. As it is, it might be the saddest thing I've ever read from an incel
+--- 28773140
+>>28773116
+My broad, sweeping generalization seems to have hurt your fee-fees
+--- 28773162
+>>28765105
+No
+--- 28773172
+>>28768960
+>incel is an umbrella term for anyone that I dislike
+okay lol
+--- 28773186
+>>28773118
+i and every other gen z male i know other than 1(/100s) do not have a singular female friend. of the ones i know, only the attractive ones have GIRLfriends.
+--- 28773199
+>>28773186
+your discord buddies and your stem classmates not having any female friends seems a bit like selection bias innit 
+No but I do agree its not a good idea to have female friends, just acquaintances and potential dates
+--- 28773206
+>>28773199
+>your discord buddies and your stem classmates 
+it's people from back in highschool. no one except for gays have female "friends"
+--- 28773207
+>>28773122
+Adam Driver is tall, has broad shoulders, and still has his hair. An average face is no where near enough to negate everything else.
+--- 28773217
+>>28773034
+I have several good-looking relatives and their life-experiences are what blackpilled me.
+--- 28773222
+>>28773186
+>"'Selection bias'? Nope, never heard of it"
+FTFY
+Sure, die alone. Your choice
+--- 28773230
+>>28773207
+see
+>>28771841
+--- 28773235
+>>28773132
+Even Harvard professors have done studies on this topic, are they 4chan bums too?
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Buss
+--- 28773242
+>>28773230
+Why would I need to see a strawman argument?
+--- 28773263
+>>28771841
+Holy shit, JBW is undefeatable.
+--- 28773268
+>you cant get a GF huh? Its easy bro, just establish a social circle, have friends, have a job, go out, work on yourself, lift, dont be a poorfag, have hobbies other than GAYming or something autistic, be funny, be entertaining, dont be creepy, memorise 500 approach openers and conversation topics, etc
+why do people say this? Its almost like they actually believe it.
+I go outside. I know people. Plenty of people that are successful with women dont do any of those things, or have any of those things, and if they do its usually "have friends" and thats partly selection bias because Im more likely to meet social people. Plenty of ascoial autists have GFs
+
+Heres the real reason: Its 99% about your looks. thats it. thats everything there is. Everything else is just meant to distract you, so you dont become an incel terrorist or commit sudoku when you realise the facts of the matter
+
+games over before it started if youre unattractive. Its not about the hand youre dealt but how youre playing your cards, and you got dealt no hand
+
+Those 1 in a million exceptions dont change the rule. I knew a girl personally who married an ugly guy because "she was sick of cheaters and wanted more control" 
+Instead she cheated 
+
+
+Also attractive men get away with everything
+--- 28773271
+>>28773140
+>>28773140
+No feelings hurt on my end dude, and it sounds like you're anti-incel or whatever, but that "Ken Wants a Barbie Doll" rhetoric actually supports incels
+--- 28773277
+>>28773127
+>same shit as you
+Just curious, what are the chances that you are many times more attractive than me? 
+It's just funny, how fucking fakecel dares to say, that he "has been through the same shit" as me.
+--- 28773281
+>>28773268
+>I knew a girl personally w
+no you didn't.
+
+You're on 4chan posting about how looks are the only relevant factor in adult grown-up past-college relationships. You've never personally known a real life female woman femoid other than your own mother.
+--- 28773285
+>>28773222
+your people's whole thing is
+>i see 1/10 obese 5'2 dudes outside everywhere with hot chicks
+which not only is selective bias on your part, but is also a blatant lie, you homo
+--- 28773286
+>>28773235
+>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Buss
+>David Buss: "Appearance of the woman is very important to men in both short-term and long-term dating strategies.. Appearance of the man is not very important to women in either short- or long-term dating strategies."
+Pal, he *debunks* the Blackpill by proving that non-appearance features of men are most important to women.
+You've never even read his books, have you?
+And, unlike you, he has
+>wait for it
+a PhD.
+--- 28773291
+>fakecel
+--- 28773292
+>>28773242
+You
+>moves goalposts
+Also you
+>uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh
+--- 28773296
+>>28773285
+NTA but I see average girls with average guys all the fuckin time everywhere, my fuckin self included
+
+touch grass
+--- 28773297
+>>28773268
+This. Getting a gf just happens to normal people. It's pathetic to come up with these cartoonish schemes with the intention of getting a woman to love you.
+--- 28773298
+>>28773268
+>Plenty of people that are successful with women dont do any of those things, or have any of those things
+but *that isn't you*, is it?
+--- 28773305
+>>28773296
+ok, but i'm below average and you see below average chicks with guys all the time, never the other way around
+--- 28773313
+>>28773292
+What goalposts? >>28773207 was the first reply that I posted in this thread
+--- 28773323
+>>28773305
+Just stay the fuck away from normal people, you and your blackpill ideology are a disease to society.
+--- 28773325
+>>28773285
+So 98% of all men DON'T have sex?
+80% of all men DON'T marry?
+Huh.
+See, blackpillers want to DEMAND that
+>only the top men can have any success with women
+then when it is pointed out that only the bottom 10%-20% of men *DON'T* have success with women they scream
+>OUTLIER! SELECTION BIAS! JUST WORLD FALLACY! *I* DON'T KNOW ANYONE LIKE THAT! EVERY WOMAN CHEATS EVERY TIME!
+and so on.
+--- 28773329
+>>28773305
+see
+>>28771513
+>>28771573
+>>28769923
+>>28768978
+>>28771841
+--- 28773330
+>>28773298
+Yes, so why would any of it work for me? 
+In theory, being exposed to more women ups your chances, that part is true
+They dont give two fucks about you being fit as any /fit/cel will tell you
+
+>>28773281
+It may be incomprehensible to you, or more likely, youre trying to mislead others buts its all about looks. Theres *slight* redemption for ugly men in your late 30s when their bio clock starts to thick and they've been whores for 20 years and now want to settle
+--- 28773333
+>>28773305
+you're splitting hairs at this point.
+--- 28773340
+>>28773329
+Personality is genetic and environmental. It's too late for me to become funny and charismatic like any of those ugly guys who you just posted. For every comedian there are a thousand unfunny "class clowns".
+--- 28773343
+>>28773277
+I probably looksmaxxed 10x harder than you too. How many hours did you spend researching fashion and diets and gym routines. I literally took steroids to boost my appearance (it worked luckily and I didnt have any bad sides). I tried every nootropic and drug to help me social maxx. I wanted to ascend more than anything I was gonna die for it.
+Funny enough all I really needed was to get my diet in check to maintain 10% bodyfat, any higher than that and my face is puffy and I look subhuman
+--- 28773349
+>>28771841
+Blackpill says that whites have more SMV when it comes to asian women
+--- 28773350
+>>28773323
+cope, i'm an integral part of society and have a big social circle. it's just that women are shallow.
+>>28773325
+shut up, nerd. women go for the top 80% of men. many settle for 5s and 6s, never lower.
+>>28773329
+stop telling me to look at the same post that i've debunked it like 4 times itt
+>>28773333
+checked, but no i'm not
+--- 28773357
+>>28773325
+No the claim is that all women want a top 10-20% man but many settle for top 40%
+
+10-20% of men having 0% chances is a large number
+--- 28773359
+>>28773350
+>virgin calling anyone a nerd
+You're pathetic. Keep blaming your face when it's obviously your personality.
+--- 28773362
+>>28773330
+>It may be incomprehensible to you, or more likely, youre trying to mislead others buts its all about looks. Theres *slight* redemption for ugly men in your late 30s when their bio clock starts to thick and they've been whores for 20 years and now want to settle
+
+I love this "cock carousel" fallacy that it's only women who age and turn 30 and want to marry and have kids, Chad just somehow just eternally remains a 20something youthful Adonis.
+
+It's not like the attractive people who sleep around with each other eventually settle with one another. No the aging hot chick HAS to settle for the computer programmer incel who has never been on a date before. Chad just disappears or something don't worry about him.
+--- 28773368
+The man
+>born with no arms or legs
+>weak chin, balding young
+Blackpillers
+>>28773349
+>"He's White. But I would never have a chance because i am 5' 8""
+--- 28773372
+>>28773359
+>degenerate sex haver complaining about being called a nerd
+you're a nerd, nerd. your ego's way too big, the reason you've had sex is because of your face. your personality is as basic and boring as it gets
+--- 28773374
+>man with abrasive dogshit argumentative personality denies that personality is a factor in attraction
+
+yeah man, chicks hate you because your jaw isn't wide enough. not because you're a crybaby asshole.
+--- 28773378
+>>28773368
+I am 5'3.
+--- 28773383
+>>28773350
+>80% of men are 7/10+
+--- 28773393
+>Look at these pictures
+Your retarded ass
+>>28773350
+>"I debunked that picture of a family!"
+kekimo, indiana
+--- 28773394
+>>28773383
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrdBApWwGK8 [Embed]
+it's not 80% of gen z men, it's about 60%, while it's 100% for gen z women.
+--- 28773395
+>>28773362
+I never said that men remain youthful forever you imbecile, thats something you threw in. Men simply dont care to settle nearly as much, especially when they can get laid easily.
+
+My dad is a stereotypical Chad. Hes in his 60s now andd still fucking multiple women who all think theyre in a committed relationship with him. When they find out he just moves on to the next. All chads operate like that. Some try to settle but most realise its not for them as they can ride the pussy carousel without commitment
+--- 28773397
+>>28773357
+>80% of men marry
+>women only settle for the top 40%
+pick one
+--- 28773405
+>>28773378
+So you're a foot taller than he is
+--- 28773410
+>>28773405
+I'm not white so I cannot convince third world women that I have status and money.
+--- 28773412
+>>28773397
+Most mem who marry, marry multiple times
+80% sounds ridiculously high
+--- 28773413
+>>28773394
+The marriage rate is *maybe* DOWN TO 80% for Zoomers.
+25% of 25 year old Zoomer men are already married, after all.
+And no cohort of women has ever had 100% marriage and Zoomer women are on track for 85%
+--- 28773418
+>>28773268
+Based and truthpilled.
+I have a short, ugly friend with mild cerebral palsy. He struggled for years to find a gf. He used all the dating apps and got nowhere. Then he inherited a shitton of money and *bam* he suddenly has a fiancee. Attraction is genetically deterministic and can only ever be circumvented on rare occasions by money and status.
+--- 28773419
+>>28773412
+80% is *the lowest in recorded history*.
+And it is already expected that Zoomers will go above it
+--- 28773425
+>>28773395
+>My dad is a stereotypical Chad. Hes in his 60s now andd still fucking multiple women who all think theyre in a committed relationship with him.
+and you think your cool-ass daddy represents the average man in his 60s?
+--- 28773426
+>>28773343
+>How many hours did you spend researching fashion and diets and gym routines
+All this stuff is useless, if you are ugly. 
+>I look subhuman
+Proofs?
+--- 28773433
+>>28773418
+>I have one friend and he represents all of human interactions
+--- 28773443
+>>28773433
+If cherrypicked photos and stories can debunk the blackpill, why can't they support it?
+--- 28773446
+>>28773425
+>Average man
+No, he represents the average Chad in his 60s
+Most of his friends were similar. The ones who did settle, settled for rich women.
+
+>>28773433
+He made an example you illiterate mongoloid
+--- 28773498
+I fell for all the improover memes. I tried to do the best with the lousy hand that I was dealt, invested a lot of time, money, and effort into "looksmaxxing". Guess what? It didn't change a goddamn thing. I haven't had a single date or female interest, let alone a girlfriend. I see couples irl and they might as well be an alien race.... or maybe I'm the extraterrestrial in this scenario? Either way, I've now taken the blackpill. I lost the genetic lottery, and as such, no woman wants anything to do with me despite all my efforts. Women don't care about your struggle. They want the guy who can dress like a bum and still look cute. They want the guy who only has to work 10% as hard as you to look 100x better purely because of genetics.
+--- 28773506
+>>28773395
+>"I'll take 'Shit That Never Fuckin' Happened' for $500, please, Alex"
+--- 28773513
+>>28773426
+>All this stuff is useless, if you are ugly.
+>>28768978
+--- 28773531
+>>28771841
+You do know examples like this wouldn't be noteworthy if they weren't the exception right? Good god you people are morons.
+--- 28773535
+>>28773498
+Keep chasing the carrot on a stick or else normalfags will call you lazy.
+--- 28773551
+>>28773443
+Reality
+>Men and women are virgins at roughly the same frequency. The loss of virginity for both men and women has been hapening later and later for 25 years. Total lifetime sexual partners for both has been dropping for the same period
+>In the last 20 years sexlessness outside of marriage has been increasing for both men and women
+>For 30 years teen pregnancy, use of birth control by unmarried women under age 30, and abortions have likewise been dropping
+This all shows from facts, not surveys, that contemporary young women are LESS promiscuous than Millennials, Gen Xers, or Boomers.
+This is the best time for a young man to find a young virgin bride in 60 years.
+Blackpillers sit on 4chan typing 1,000,000 words a day that they refuse to talk to women.
+That's retarded
+--- 28773561
+>>28773498
+How many women did you talk to a week before you quit?
+--- 28773567
+>>28773551
+>Blackpillers sit on 4chan typing 1,000,000 words a day that they refuse to talk to women.
+You typed more that I did
+--- 28773569
+>>28773531
+>OUTLIER! OUTLIER!
+You do know that one in 12 women is married to a man shorter than herself, right?
+--- 28773587
+>>28773567
+>True
+FTFY
+--- 28773590
+>>28773535
+I tried to be open-minded and put my best foot forward, but it went completely unappreciated by women. They're as oblivious to me now as they've ever been. What can you do? You can't force women to find you attractive. They either like you or they don't. And yes, I use the term "women" collectively, as they exhibit hive mind behavior.
+--- 28773600
+>>28773551
+The fact that they are LESS promiscuous means they are more selective
+Thus once again this means the top men benefit most
+
+>Hurr youre not approaching womenz
+People become blackpilled after trying out all advice. I was a popular well liked guy, been to many parties, seen many people get laid. Not me though
+--- 28773672
+>>28764914 (OP)
+the blackpill is looks and money/status, so you are not debunking it
+--- 28773697
+>>28773587
+kys
+--- 28773795
+>>28773513
+>cherrypicking 
+Just kill yourself, nigger
+--- 28773836
+>>28773795
+They also fail to acknowledge that a lot of these examples are more like caregiver relationships than anything else.
+--- 28774084
+>>28773268
+bet you dont talk to women or even try to ask them out, stop letting fear control you anon
+--- 28774099
+>>28774084
+NTA but cold-approaching is a waste of time. You're more likely to get a restraining order than a girl's number.
+--- 28774189
+>>28773836
+>has a wife, kids, friends
+Friendless KHHV incels
+>S-s-she is j-j-just a c-c-c-c-cuh-caretaker!
+If by 
+>caretaker
+You mean
+>loving wife that fucks him on the regular while raising their kids
+sure
+--- 28774198
+>>28774099
+Translation 
+>I never, ever talk to women
+--- 28774227
+>>28764914 (OP)
+never went to the gym and got a girlfriend by going out more unironically
+--- 28774234
+>>28774198
+Women won't talk to me, dumbass. Bit difficult to have a two-way conversation on your own.
+--- 28775148
+>>28774234
+Last time you tried?
+>inb4 years ago
+--- 28775406
+what exactly is the claim of the blackpill? I understood it to mean "some people are dealt a bad hand and destined to fail due to not being good enough even with effort"
+--- 28775564
+>>28775406
+>"some people are dealt a bad hand and destined to fail due to not being good enough even with effort"
+
+that is it's claim. some people try to disagree for meme's sake, but unfortunately it is true.
+--- 28775568
+>>28775564
+then what about all the examples of ugly men getting women?
+--- 28775579
+>>28775568
+Money, status or drugs.
+--- 28775580
+>>28764914 (OP)
+I just want a girl to call me daddy. Do you think Andrews gfs call him daddy?
+--- 28775583
+>>28764914 (OP)
+My own case. Hit the gym, get onto some skincare, try to be empathetic with women and try with other women instead of crumpling after failing once. Practice makes perfect
+--- 28775603
+>>28775583
+Proud of u anon
+--- 28775620
+>>28775583
+That just means you were genetically attractive. Looksmaxxing only works for good-looking people.
+--- 28775653
+>>28775583
+You're not actually autistic, faggot.
+--- 28775662
+>>28775653
+No but I have crippling ADHD and need vyvanse to function lol
+
+>>28775620
+Nah I used to be super fat as a kid and have nasty acne scars on my cheeks and back. I won’t say I’m not attractive after losing weight and putting on muscle but I genuinely do believe anyone here can be at MINIMUM a 7/10 with muscles, nice clothes, and a decent stubble 
+
+t. There is no God but R’hllor and Stannis Baratheon is the one true king
+--- 28775684
+>>28775662
+>but I genuinely do believe anyone here can be at MINIMUM a 7/10 with muscles, nice clothes, and a decent stubble
+Been there, done it. I've probably done more than most, and women still don't notice me or give me any attention. If you've lost the genetic lottery, then it's all over.
+--- 28775691
+>>28775406
+The ridiculous part is they think it is 80% of men
+--- 28775697
+>>28775684
+>hint: he never talks to women. Ever
+--- 28775699
+>>28775684
+Have you tried actually talking to girls? Messaging them on Insta/Snap or whatever, talking to girls from class/work, at the gym, whatnot? You can’t say you missed the shot if you never took it anon. My girlfriend found me attractive but was shy to reach out to me until I messaged her first, there’s a chance a girl you might fancy feels the same too.
+--- 28775722
+>>28775697
+Women don't want to talk to me.
+--- 28775726
+>>28775691
+maybe on tinder but in real life I could believe maybe 20% of men are destined to fail regardless of how hard they try
+--- 28775732
+>>28775722
+Women didn’t want to talk to me either until I became a decent human being either nigga
+--- 28775742
+>>28775732
+We both know that had nothing to do with it. I could be Gandhi and women would still want nothing to do with me.
+--- 28775746
+>>28775732
+read about ushawn williams
+--- 28775747
+>>28775742
+Post face and physique and I’ll genuinely help you with a skincare and exercise routine. The rest of it comes down to not being a loathsome self-hating wretch. Do you have a job? Are you in university?
+--- 28775777
+>>28775747
+Nice try. I'm not posting shit for you animals. No one genuinely wants to help others on here. 
+>loathsome self-hating wretch.
+Hard not to be when women want nothing to do with you despite all your efforts.
+--- 28775784
+>>28775777
+Do you have Snapchat or instagram? I’m genuinely trying to help you you fucking faggot
+--- 28775802
+>>28775784
+No, I don't use either of them. Why?
+--- 28775881
+>>28764914 (OP)
+Tate's kinda ugly, as well as a bit of a sperg, but he still has a lot going for him, namely height and frame
+--- 28775903
+why do only 8% of autistic men but 44% of autistic women marry?
+--- 28775946
+>>28775722
+>true, I never even try
+FTFY
+you are a quitter
+--- 28775972
+>>28765077
+This. Everybody is talking shit about him claiming he's a "Top G" when he fucking is. He's a multi millionaire fucking bitches left right and center with no care of the world, living better than all of the people on this website. The left even tried tearing him down and he still ended up winning. Tate is based.
+--- 28775978
+>>28775972
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDWqAjr2Bs [Embed]
+--- 28776151
+>>28764914 (OP)
+>cases that debunk the black pill
+
+nothing debunks the blackpill

adv/28767527.txt

@@ -12,3 +12,173 @@ The blame is on you for not setting that boundary right away.
 --- 28768220
 >>28767527 (OP)
 Suggest she go get her thyroid checked out.
+--- 28769490
+>>28767527 (OP)
+>date woman just for her looks
+>your relationship starts to collapse when her looks fade
+lmao, it's not genetics making her fat, she's not eating right.
+--- 28769835
+couple things could be happening here:
+
+- she's sneaking food somewhere along the line that you aren't noticing.
+- thyroid problem, definitely go get that checked out. especially if there are other problems like depression and fatigue.
+- she may still exercise regularly but she might have to start adding more or do a different kind. what does she currently do?
+- diet might be healthy but macros might not be in good proportions.
+- NEAT might be low. what's her daily step count?
+--- 28769837
+>She's still getting fat even though she exercises!
+Yeah fucking right. Bro that doesn't even make sense. If she's ACTUALLY exercising then clearly she's just shoveling too much fucking food into her face, but she's probably doing that AND saying she "exercised" after doing a few curls and stretching for 45 minutes. You actually need to do something relatively strenuous like running to burn the excess calories that make you fat.
+--- 28769865
+>>28769835
+the point i was making with this is no one gets fat for no reason- not even age related. there was a massive, well done, multi decade study that came out a year or two ago that basically established that your metabolism stays the same between 27 and 60.
+
+what DOES change however is that after 30 you lose 1% of muscle mass a year if you are not actively maintaining it or putting more on. losing muscle mass means your body is burning fewer calories at rest. this can easily translate to weight gain.
+--- 28769873
+>>28767527 (OP)
+Did you think she wasn’t going to age when you married her? LMAO
+--- 28769909
+>>28767527 (OP)
+>Pulling the pin on the fat grenade
+Here's your mistake. You failed the shit test
+--- 28769959
+>>28769865
+LINK PLEASE
+--- 28769989
+>>28769959
+https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/surprising-findings-about-metabolism-and-age-202110082613
+
+metabolism study ^
+
+https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/preserve-your-muscle-mass
+
+muscle mass preservation/loss ^
+
+it appears the loss is 3-8% per decade. not 1% a year. my bad. could be for some people though.
+--- 28770878
+>>28767555
+>>28767858
+This kind of overt control / manipulation is only sure to piss her of and make her grab the next bucket of icecream in defiance and anger. "Cant tell me what to do"
+
+Woman need to be manipulated covertly and think they came to the idea themselves as a part of their mate retention strategies:
+Instead workout and eat well yourself and become more attractive. Completely apart from what she is doing you can casually mention whats been happening in the gym. Or complain about feeling sore from the workout bout once every two weeks. When sleeping with her or hugging her, jokingly / in a wholesome way poke or pinch her skin but without directly saying anything. Basically remind her that she is slowly loosing out on the relative attractiveness.
+Getting looks from other woman due to your improved physique when going out together is sure to be noticed by her and inspire some fear of loosing you to a more attractive woman. 
+
+If you then withstand her nagging and getting pissed about "how you are supposedly thinking about cheating on her" by playfully brushing it off as if you arent noticing anything / there is nothing going on, [Dont fuck this up by being the pleasing nice guy who is afraid of his mom either] she will either start to improve herself and join you in the gym or show her true colors that she isnt really desiring you and instead just wanted a marriage / relationship because of herself and not you.
+--- 28770891
+Tell her to take wellbutrin and naltrexone. Low dose of both, to lose her interest in food. Guarantee she's eating like a pig behind your back.
+--- 28770905
+>>28767527 (OP)
+This is just another reason not to get in ltr with them they get real fat and do not care anymore. Then you're being an ass if you have a problem with it and they won't listen to you. Leaving them single might be better for their physical health if not mental health since they won't be as comfortable to get like this.
+--- 28771920
+>>28769989
+nta but thanks man
+--- 28773258
+>>28770878
+>>This kind of overt control / manipulation is only sure to piss her of and make her grab the next bucket of icecream in defiance and anger
+Just the opposite. You only respect someone who lives their values, and while I'm not gonna deny some of these tricks will lube the wheels a little and speed this up (at the cost of being seen as an asshole), they're NOT the important part, they're not good leadership, and are wholly unnecessary to create the desired psychology.
+
+True leadership is showing why you are right in a way that inspires within her a genuine want to follow your example, no mind-fuckery required. People will want to live like you, because they see that it works, and you don't need any additional headfucks and don't even need to tell her directly to make it so -- though that works too, if you really are living these values.
+
+Like, if you're getting swole, are starting to look hot or are hot, working out and eating healthy? Women typically aren't stupid. Consciously or subconsciously she will be aware
+>he seems to really value his body and exercise, he spends a lot of time on it and I'm seeing the results, they work
+plus the correct
+>I might not be able to hold down this man if things continue as is, he's the same or a better deal than when I first picked him up and I'm getting chubby
+And since these things are on their mind, if you're offering to bring them into your workout and eating regiment, partners will often jump on it as an opportunity for someone else they trust to handle all teaching and hard logistics for them in an activity they otherwise don't understand. The gym is a scary place for people who know nothing. Someone who you trust and know gets results makes for a perfect guide and is fiercely appreciated
+--- 28773310
+>>28773258
+>partners will often jump on it as an opportunity for someone else they trust to handle all teaching and hard logistics
+Yeah but you're forgetting that modern women carry two completely contradictory views on situations like this. They simultaneously want men to be providers and breadwinners but also want to feel like a Strong Independent Woman Who Don't Need No Man. My gf immediately goes into femoid mode when I even lightly suggest that she expand her workout regimen, even if she was the one to bring up exercise in the first fucking place.
+--- 28773525
+>>28773310
+This is why you start with taking over cooking and food shopping. It's really fucking hard to get fat on certain diets and really fucking easy on others. 
+
+Give someone a diet of soda, hamburgers, ice cream, processed foods, and deep fried potatoes, humans will naturally balloon. Give sparking water, vegetables, beans, rice, and a moderate amount of lean protein, and despite eating way fewer calories they're gonna be more full and lose more weight - and if you're a good cook, it's gonna taste better too.
+--- 28774995
+>>28773525
+What if you still feel hungry?
+I tried that with my wife, -not op-.
+I caught her snacking in the bathroom.
+--- 28775110
+>>28774995
+>I caught her snacking in the bathroom.
+This is a sign she's ashamed of being seen eating, which you should talk to her about, plus a sign she's not satiated. If you're in charge of meals, start by keeping calories constant while giving her foods and meals with items higher on the Satiety index, see pic related.
+--- 28775118
+>>28775110
+The higher the better.
+i know, And it's what I eat.
+But she still feels hungry, and crave easy sugar.
+--- 28775186
+>>28775118
+>she still feels hungry
+Increase calorie count, slowly, without exceeding her expenditure. It's typically difficult to cause weight loss without some initial discomfort, people are evolutionarily slow and reluctant to give up fat reserves. Talk with her about your food and fitness goals.
+--- 28775231
+>>28775118
+>>28774995
+Are you sure she's drinking enough water? Most people who think they're hungry are just desperately dehydrated and view drinking plain water as somehow lame.
+--- 28775304
+>>28773258
+>>Women typically aren't stupid. Consciously or subconsciously she will be aware
+They must be stupid because the vast majority of married mothers are fat, many of which are obese
+>>I might not be able to hold down this man if things continue as is
+Married women don't worry about this because divorce is a way bigger L for men than women, the courts will always give the female half the man's money and full custody of the kids so she's got nothing to lose
+>>The gym is a scary place for people who know nothing. Someone who you trust and know gets results makes for a perfect guide and is fiercely appreciated
+Women go to the gym for social reasons and mostly do zumba class and yoga that barely put a calorie dent
+--- 28775316
+>>28773525
+Cooking for a woman is effeminate and cringe
+--- 28775330
+>>28775316
+Then why are there so many men chefs out there?
+--- 28775359
+>>28775330
+Because they're gay
+--- 28775365
+>>28775186
+>without exceeding her expenditure
+Her expenditure is like 1400 Cal.
+How low can you get it while still not feeling hungry?
+I try talking to her about eating fruit salad and such, but I just find her eating sweats.
+>>28775231
+I told her to drink more water, but she hate to do so because it make her nauseated, and go to the bathroom to pee way too much.
+--- 28775371
+>>28775316
+Eating delicious healthy food is based and redpilled. You're cooking for yourself, that you make enough for her and the kids is purely out of noblesse oblige.
+
+>>28775304
+>mothers 
+9 months of sedentaryness and needing to eat enough for two will do that. Sort things out after the fact, you're in an ONGOING relationship, treat it like one.
+
+>divorce is a way bigger L for men than women
+This is unironically the sunk cost fallacy, plus single mothers aren't known for doing well either, you're not without leverage and she knows it. Work your shit out.
+
+>Women go to the gym for social reasons and mostly do zumba class and yoga that barely put a calorie dent
+Thus why you take control of the kitchen, retard, it's the pre-dominant factor that decides if your woman will be thin or fat.
+
+>>28775365
+>it make her nauseated, and go to the bathroom to pee way too much.
+Get her to install a water reminder app on her phone, you grow accustomed to water if you drink a lot of it and you've built the habit.
+--- 28775389
+>>28775365
+>drinking water makes her feel nauseous 
+Jesus christ she only needs to drink a cup or so at a time, what the fuck is she doing?
+--- 28775472
+>>28775371
+Cooking is women's work and I'm not a homosexual
+--- 28775478
+>>28775389
+Drinking less than 100 cc of water every 4-5 hours.
+--- 28775496
+>>28767527 (OP)
+Calling her a fat cow isn't helpful either.
+--- 28775548
+>>28774995
+Lol, bathroom snacking
+--- 28775655
+>>28775472
+>Cooking is women's work and I'm not a homosexual
+No, but you ARE bitch-made. 
+
+Men have cooked since the dawn of time, and we cook the good food worth eating. If you have the time and inclination to seize this duty, especially with good reason, it is the height of masculinity.
+--- 28775663
+>>28767527 (OP)
+Here is my advice: Don't marry the woman who will eventually become fat... Oopsie OP...

adv/28767532.txt

@@ -28,9 +28,6 @@ Is the coast clear? Can I leave in peace now?
 how can you do this how can you do this how can you just block my number and leave me with nothing
 --- 28768035
 Got me some fuckin Bodacious Onion n I'm about to fuckin DIP
---- 28768128
->>28767532 (OP)
-Another birthday passed. T-minus 2 years until I commit suicide unless my wife agrees to a FFM.
 --- 28768169
 I thought it was finally going to be happy. I thought I may have found someone, and while it lasted, it was magical.
 But now that it's over, I feel exactly the same as I did before, it just reinforces the feeling that not being with someone leaves me without meaning or purpose. I'm sick of spending money to feel something. I'm sick of having to treat finding partners like a god damned hunt. I'm sick of it all. Sick of everything. I don't know what to do anymore but I can't do this. I don't want to die, I just want to be alone, but I can't come to grips with being okay with it. I don't hate myself, I wanna look better, mostly so I feel better, but I have no idea what to do anymore. I'm so tired of it all, I'm almost 30 for fucks sake, how have I not got this shit figured out.
@@ -95,3 +92,863 @@ god i can’t keep doing this but i need you so much that i can’t stop
 If she doesn’t reply to a simple message it fucks me up way too much. It’s just a good night or good morning but when she doesn’t respond I really feel like shit. I don’t know why she doesn’t, it’s just really another chip in the wall that is this relationship. She can’t even bring herself to return these messages, so what kind of future can we have?
 --- 28768794
 Just crumple me up into a basketball and go for the lay up before pressing me into a juicer
+--- 28768805
+>>28768794
+I stole that one from someone much more worthwhile
+--- 28768829
+You and me, I can see us dying. Are we?
+--- 28768833
+https://youtu.be/RvnkAtWcKYg [Embed]
+--- 28768835
+i'm frustrated that i cant take the knot on my xl dragon dildo
+--- 28768846
+>accidentally side-eyed my ex's new partner
+
+>I'm pretty sure I saw them hold hands once after they saw me randomly
+
+I swear to god, I did not mean to be rude/bad. Being an attractive aspie sucks.
+--- 28768861
+>>28768829
+I hope not because I’d do anything to keep this alive
+--- 28768874
+>>28768833
+https://youtu.be/9sTQ0QdkN3Q [Embed]
+--- 28768894
+>>28768833
+https://youtu.be/WYoEeG5tzc0 [Embed]
+--- 28768895
+>>28768835
+kwab
+--- 28768901
+>>28767550
+No, it was never me.
+https://youtu.be/oIFLtNYI3Ls [Embed]
+--- 28768906
+Just burnin'
+--- 28768908
+>>28768833
+https://youtu.be/zXN70cx2pCU [Embed]
+--- 28768920
+>>28768833
+https://youtu.be/1Q5ogSWHyRU [Embed]
+--- 28768959
+Fuck off
+--- 28768968
+>>28767532 (OP)
+Why am I being tempted with married women? Is it because I hate adultery so much?
+--- 28769002
+Seriously though there's some worthwhile work ahead and that's cool
+--- 28769023
+>>28768833
+https://youtu.be/WyJMlKfw7X0 [Embed]
+--- 28769029
+Do you even like me?
+--- 28769043
+Not like I should fucking care anymore about what anyone thinks seeing as my fucking family plays this stupid fucking game too might as well do some fucking net positive shit and fucking scream bloody fucking murder until I die
+--- 28769053
+Love yall, don't appreciate it
+--- 28769057
+What if his name was elon bust and he had big fat titties
+--- 28769066
+Don't ask me to consider my part in all of this because clearly I'm fucking never going to
+--- 28769070
+>>28769057
+Bro that'd be nuts.
+--- 28769079
+>>28769057
+this post has big elon musk tweet energy
+--- 28769081
+>>28769057
+Like 6 of em
+--- 28769083
+I HATE you. I Hate you. I HATE U I HATE U I HATE U I HATE U I HATE U I HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U HATE U
+
+I'm so stupid. I'm falling for you so hard. Why must you be so sweet to me.
+--- 28769119
+>>28769083
+>Why must you be so sweet to me.
+Because I think you're cute.
+--- 28769181
+she's not attracted to you, so why do you care?
+let go
+--- 28769220
+You don’t care. You get active when I go to sleep, you ignore my messages, there’s zero emotional connection any more. You say you love me then treat me like this. Your avoidance is too much to handle. Maybe if we were closer but with this distance you have to talk more and you just don’t. I wish I could date the other one instead. At least she seems to care.
+--- 28769223
+>>28769181
+Oh she is, but I'm not comitting adultery just to be with her.
+--- 28769275
+Cause right now it feels like you have my messages on mute or something. You don’t respond to them at all. And then you send stuff you see to other people and nothing to me? You don’t share like we used to at all.
+
+I’m breaking up soon. You won’t change even though. You know what you have to do. But I know you won’t do it
+--- 28769369
+>>28769275
+Have you actually talked to them about it?
+--- 28769377
+>>28769181
+Then she should stop saying she is so I can stop wasting my time on her.
+--- 28769578
+today i had a very interesting dream. i was participating in a group that was growing rhubarb in order to enter a rhubarb pie contest. i wanted to add lard to the pie crust but my friend was there and she is a vegetarian so i felt weird suggesting it, like i felt it was rude. there were a lot of high ceilings and big rooms. 
+for some reason the cast of trailer park boys was invovled and they wanted to add anthony cumia into the tpb show. i tried to explain to them how bad an idea this was but they wouldnt listen.
+--- 28769594
+>>28769066
+I’m asking you to consider your part in all of this. At least try
+--- 28769665
+I don't relate to anyone anymore, it's suffocating
+--- 28769708
+I love this little guy 
+https://youtu.be/-MZzIlXfUXY [Embed]
+--- 28769725
+>>28769665
+i feel like this somewhat, but it allows me the opportunity to learn about them as if learning about an alien species. Rewarding in its own way
+--- 28769805
+Do I run? Do I call 911 and tell them a bunch of bullshit so I can be fucking institutionalized? Why don't you sadistic fucks tell me what to do so I can not consider any of it and just get angrier
+--- 28769871
+Why don't you tell me why the same vehicle from the day that ruined me was in the drive way again today
+--- 28769876
+>>28769805
+What’s wrong?
+--- 28769880
+>>28769871
+Sure would love it if it were there to take me on a little vacation because I am entirely done
+--- 28769898
+Everyone fucking lying and I don't care why or how much I deserve it
+--- 28769901
+Not a soul left on this earth to speak some reality to me
+--- 28769926
+>>28768895
+i'll show you, anon!
+one day I'll be able to go out for a walk to the pub with that thing inside me like a plug without a care in the world
+
+just not right now tho
+--- 28769927
+Like apparently I just don't fucking get it so how about you fucking put me away in some place where I will continue to not get it for the rest of my life and I at least won't have to fucking deal with anyone ever again seeing as I am not capable and no longer willing
+--- 28769980
+And everyone's happy, right? We're finally reaching the other side of the skull on either side.
+--- 28770008
+I'm going to be a good boy now.
+--- 28770012
+Cowards
+--- 28770027
+>>28770008
+You fool.
+--- 28770032
+Once a not a good boy forever a never a good boy
+--- 28770041
+Fuckin molded differently I guess. Too fuckin bad I guess.
+--- 28770050
+>>28769725
+I'm kind of really sick of them. it feels the only things we jumped up apes can do are lust and violence. when we aren't busy being horny as shit consooming/producing disgusting amounts of porn we are busy being uncivil to eachother and inflicting cruelties and atrocities on one another. and it's also funny to me how seriously we take ourselves with this shit. the rich and powerful take pride in how many women they get with and play their dumbass power games and politics acting like they're doing anything meaningful at all. politics to me is like watching monkeys throw shit at each other inside an enclosure. idk I'm ranting now
+--- 28770052
+I'm 31 and I feel a bit stuck. I live with my gf of 3.5 years and she's starting to nag me about dumb bullshit. We talk about it and things go okay for a few days and she she just can't seem to help herself from getting up my ass about cleaning the kitchen or some shit. I have a job that I love immensely but even when I work as much as I can I only make about $22,000 per year. I don't even know if I want to have kids anymore and that makes me sad. I hate how people act these days so much, and I don't want to bring a kid into the world if I barely make enough money to keep myself comfortable. 
+
+My gf has started to bring up marriage and kids more and more, which only makes me feel more trapped because it feels like she would rather talk about that than put effort into maintaining my attraction to her by not nagging me. I don't know man, on one hand I guess I've got it pretty good but on the other hand I feel like a poor motherfucker who could probably do a bit better.
+--- 28770053
+Therapists all have tabs on me too anyhow
+--- 28770065
+>>28770053
+I diagnose you with shit breath and a defect of the ballsack
+--- 28770067
+>>28770027
+Ok then what instead?
+--- 28770076
+>>28770067
+Do what feels right. Being "good" never helped anyone.
+--- 28770079
+>>28770065
+Unfortunately you are just very dumb so I'm going to have to ask you to leave my office. No judgements just facts
+--- 28770087
+Being good is important, it's worthwhile. Too little goodness in the world. Make the effort to leave the earth a slightly better place than you found it
+--- 28770099
+>>28770076
+Alright then sounds good
+--- 28770123
+Seriously where are your balls now that I'm in the pits as opposed to cloud nine? What's with you fucking people.
+--- 28770141
+Maybeb I shoulb cwy insteab and be all bunerable so you can do a haha and make fun of my pp
+--- 28770175
+Not a single person in my life left not ruined by this dogshit pretense and sure it's my fault yep glad we established that, now get me the fuck out of here
+--- 28770197
+Seeing as all I do out here is lie, do dumb shit and disappoint everyone
+--- 28770227
+>>28770197
+And pick my bloody nostrils
+--- 28770295
+>>28769594
+Honestly, actually, consider a fucking baseball bat to your skull
+--- 28770302
+If I'm just going to be brutally honest of how done I am and how little I care to try anymore
+--- 28770307
+Maybe I can fucking manifest something, anything to get me out of here by just being an ass
+--- 28770324
+Like there's nothing for me to consider: I'm fucking brain dead and a bad person. Woo hoo dude.
+--- 28770363
+To be so receptive to the message and excited for the opportunites to fucking lie on the same day and crawl back into Satan's asshole, as everyone around me drops their hints about as gracefully as a house giving birth
+--- 28770413
+>>28769369
+Yeah. “This is how I am,” then no change.
+--- 28770416
+Just really stupid.
+--- 28770417
+Goodnight. I love you more than anything. I wish you weren’t out of my life. I hope everything is good for you, even better than good. I miss you.
+--- 28770446
+>>28770417
+god i wish you were him
+--- 28770457
+Stuffing turds in my mouth like a hamster and then pushing both my cheeks in as hard as I can
+--- 28770472
+>>28770457
+Why are you doing this?
+--- 28770508
+>>28770472
+It goes everywhere and we all laugh
+--- 28770537
+Thinking back to when me and my ex broke things off hits me like a punch in the chest and I don't know why. I feel guilty for some reason. I started a random argument with her and I don't know why or how I got so obsessive. I looked like a crazy person and she didn't seem to understand. Like I really needed her to provide an answer for a question on my mind and couldn't have just quietly walked away from her? Fml.
+--- 28770547
+My idiot older crush announced my euthanasia is going down, again twice, and my mother is starting to entertain the notion. I'm not sure the details, it might be court ordered. I don't know what to do anymore but neck a handle or go forward to the psych ward where I'll be tortured or sexually assaulted. God forbid I do nothing and march forward unto death. The date wasn't even a year out, they've been trying this shit for years over an alcohol and meth habit, do I angle for time? Or that they're bothering me so much that I need pills at least? I shouldn't need to make them proud to be able to live. I have an excellent life full of romantic complications that I don't want taken away prematurely. Another ting, honestly this is exactly the type of thing that sends me into a fit of self-pity and despair, possibly with self-brutality and self-harm and everything. I can't deal with this. My heart is in knots like some people's stomach gets. I feel so bad right now. All it would take is the tiniest bit of bad acid to send me off on a lethal trip. What do I do? Why are they explaining that my wife being dead is the end of the world? I moved on long ago. I have a new woman I like. It's going to be a very grim scene if they try to put me down within the year, I'm in the prime of my life and it seems like everyone is just trying to get off their sick denial kink on me, dad is not hot you are a fetishist, I need a bone again so bad
+--- 28770585
+I want euphoria, my throat hurts from screaming
+--- 28770759
+Just keep hiding from me. We’re supposed to be dating and this is how you interact? The minute I wake up you vanish? I’m so sick of being ignored and avoided and pushed to one side, all because you can’t handle any sort of intimacy. 
+
+What’s worse is YOU started this relationship and YOU said “I love you” first. If you were gonna be like this why’d you bother? It’s like a switch flipped one day and you treat me like less than an acquaintance. You talked to me more before we were dating. Now I barely get 3 messages out of you a week. Go talk to the others, DM the others. I can’t take the hot-and-cold anymore.
+--- 28770761
+>>28770446
+I’m a she.
+--- 28770774
+I love sitting around shirtless it's so comfortable I don't even care that I have saggy national geographic boobs if it were socially acceptable I'd go shirtless with board shorts to the beach or just doing yardwork. I only mind when I'm running. I think I'd be comfortable at a nudist beach but I'd want to wear bottoms
+--- 28770840
+If you ever show up hovering around my door like that in the middle of the night, I will kill you in cold-blood.
+--- 28770843
+I'm not real I think
+--- 28770848
+>>28770843
+You’re real
+--- 28770867
+>>28770848
+Man that fucking sucks for everyone involved then
+--- 28770895
+This was going to be the Spring in years and now it’s the worst and I don’t even know what I did to make him block me.
+--- 28770927
+I've really been showing my ass these last couple of days
+--- 28770948
+>>28770927
+God I wish you were they/them.
+--- 28770987
+>>28770948
+Absolutely not
+--- 28771024
+You fucking creep, stay the hell away from me you nasty old fuck.
+--- 28771072
+why can't i let people be part of my life? why can't i let myself be a part of their lives? why am i so afraid to be vulnerable? why am i so weak?
+--- 28771075
+>>28771024
+No
+--- 28771085
+Fuck it all
+--- 28771149
+>>28771072
+I dunno. But know that it hurts the people who care about you when you don’t let them in.
+--- 28771157
+>>28771149
+Fuck em
+--- 28771213
+I want to go to hell
+--- 28771275
+I want to watch the thunderstorm with you. To hold your hand as we both smile while God smites the heathens. CRACK. SNAP. BOOM. Fuck those guys.
+--- 28771278
+Can you imagine a world where everyone is supernaturally compelled to do the right thing because the God that governs isn't some game playing asshole sitting on his fucking cloud watching the fucking world burn?
+--- 28771281
+>>28771278
+The benevolent one? Where we no longer have to say "things happen for a reason" and then wonder what on fucking earth the reason would be for so many heinous things?
+--- 28771283
+I closer I get to 30 (I am 28) the angrier I get about the 4chan scrote (David Green) that groomed me when I was 16. What a fucking predator
+--- 28771294
+>>28771278
+cant blame him id do the same thing. niggers steal your apples? yeah thats eternal damnation for your entire race. sorry not sorry. oh and heres a few more cataclysmic events as a bonus fuck you for touching my shit. never touch my shit.
+--- 28771296
+>>28771294
+You sound about as much of a dick as I think God is.
+--- 28771313
+>>28771296
+i like to imagine sometimes that god is just a big screaming baby floating through space and that the viritol and cancer of the internet is his subliminal influence on our reality as the dream of the godhead in that way we are really the closest to god arent we his true followers and believers
+--- 28771324
+>>28771313
+Sounds awful. I guess they say we're made in his image though
+--- 28771352
+God's up there like"What do you mean you like that cloud!? That cloud's shit, why don't you sit on a real cloud"
+--- 28771362
+>>28770295
+You are a murderer.
+--- 28771364
+Why do I feel like I'm living in borrowed time?
+Like I feel guilty that I haven't put in the work and the axe is coming down for me.
+--- 28771367
+>>28771362
+This is my least favorite one
+--- 28771369
+>>28771367
+Like the actual fucking panic this shit sent me through, just fuck off entirely. No wonder I'm bitter
+--- 28771442
+>>28771367
+>>28771369
+Imagine how the good samaritan would feel, being murdered for his kindness. I've watched you for far too long, wasted too many minutes of my life watching your shitty shit. You are a danger to society.
+--- 28771496
+>>28769275
+Leave me the fuck alone and go fool around with Jellybelly or whatever her name is. Poor girl. She thinks you could actually like her. You and your diseased dick with stds.
+--- 28771554
+>>28771442
+Cool, keep believin what you will man, only thing I really want to destroy is myself. Bout the only violent idea I've played with is taking my replica BB gun down to the station and making a big hubbub to see if they'll arrest or shoot me
+--- 28771564
+Lord in heaven like can't a man just say "I'll fuckin kill you" and not mean it because he's just fuckin pissed
+If I ever had the fuckin gall to take a weapon somewhere I'd probably just piss my pants and cry before doing anything. You know what a fuckin wuss I am to the eye. All you need is the eye. Everyone's got those.
+--- 28771577
+Moreover I'm not that much of a fucking idiot nor do I lack empathy. Just really fuckin mad. All the damn time.
+--- 28771591
+FUCKFARTS
+--- 28771599
+Last night I had a deranged temper tantrum and this morning I woke up feeling great how weird is that? I finally feel ready to take on my bullshit.
+--- 28771607
+Almost everyday I wake up and the first thing I think about is you. You're engaged, I'm dating someone else, but I can't seem to let you go and move on. I keep praying to God to ket me forget you and make me move on in life, but things are not happening as much. The bad thing is, if you ever come running to me, I will welcome you with open arms again.
+--- 28771653
+Jesus, you are the victor. Jesus, you are more than a conqueror. Yes. Yes. Excellent. Nice.
+--- 28771659
+UNFUCKWORTHY
+--- 28771669
+>>28771607
+Be patient. I'm in the exact same boat and she keeps dropping obvious hints:
+
+"you're like an angel"
+"i'm gonna miss you"
+"we need to hang out more"
+"i care about you"
+"you're smart"
+
+I ain't comitting adultery (again) though. Be patient anon, and trust in God's plan.
+--- 28771761
+SHITSMAS
+--- 28771838
+I don't know what to do anymore.
+Nothing fulfills me besides trying to find new people to hang out with, but no one seems interested in being friends unless it's online, and I've never had an online friendship that didn't peter out to nothing inside the span of a year, or explode into some fucktarded drama because they're a friend hoarder.
+
+Seems like it's impossible to just make meaningful relationships, or find friends anymore. Even romantic relationships, the last 20 years have been abysmal for me, nothing but cheaters. I've apparently got shit taste but I also can't really be picky when no one else fucking reciprocates.
+--- 28771840
+Hello darling, I saw one of your sisters the other day. She looked well.
+--- 28771945
+I made some major career mistakes back in 2019 and 2020 that I never recovered from. I’m now 30 and I’m feeling like the last 4 years at least have been a total waste and I’m too old to really fix it and do what I should have done, which is so clear to me now that I could kick myself.
+--- 28771978
+I feel happy with you, and you with me. But GOD do I fear the words that can come out of your mouth. Maybe it's my illness causing the fear of abandonment, but I'm so afraid of your thoughts. That one day you'll think that we aren't meant to be, that you're a bad influence on me or something along those lines. Please let yourself be happy. With me.
+--- 28772004
+Man what the fuck
+
+I've finally been seeing some progress in my life, and I realized that I need to change myself first and foremost if I really want to be successfull. And I did so for a while, but I feel like it's faded out now. Like I'm only 40% of what I need to become when I was 80% just a few days ago. Where did I lose those results? Did I even lose them at all or did I just get used to it?
+
+Anyways, the past 3 days have all been shit and I'm not sure what to do anymore.
+--- 28772020
+I'm into girls that don't give a shit about me, don't give me attentions or ignore me
+even better if she has a bf
+
+or else I can't get hard, I don't have motivation to chase
+--- 28772034
+>>28771669
+She cut me off. 
+I haven't heard anything from her ever since January.
+For context she also has BPD.
+--- 28772040
+>>28771669
+I just want to forget her,
+If only the technology in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless mind is available, i would've done it ages ago.
+--- 28772065
+>>28772034
+I feel sorry for whoever you are dating. They deserve better.
+--- 28772148
+Do you think people who feel behind at 25, 30, or 35 can ever actually catch up?
+--- 28772189
+My mental illness doesn't turn me into a lawless psychotic but it does turn me into an overly depressed overweight shell of a human being. I should take more control over my life instead of tending toward the needs and wants of others. I create my own cages.
+--- 28772213
+I may be your favorite employee, but at the end of the day, I just wanna fuck you, nothing more. And my appeal for older women will only last for so long.
+--- 28772266
+When we lived in tribes or small villages every community benefited from a few artists for entertainment, a paranoid schizo for security and guarding, a few psychopaths for war, and a lot of dumb people to do the menial work
+
+now we have the internet. every group except the last one is almost entirely obsolete. You dont need that many artists, paranoid people, smart people, psychopaths, you just need a lot of peasants to work for the elite and a few to entertain them and advance science. 
+
+
+We wont live to see it but long term all those groups are going to be removed from the gene pool.
+--- 28772373
+>>28772189
+Same
+
+>>28772266
+What are you getting at?
+--- 28772382
+I just turned 30 and I have a lot of regrets about things I didn’t do in my late 20s. I can do all of them now but it somehow feels different. I’m having a really hard time getting over them.
+--- 28772388
+>>28772266
+>a paranoid schizo for security and guarding
+https://voca.ro/113JceD2zwlj
+--- 28772404
+I have the most free time I will ever have ever again, and it's still not enough to do the things I actually give a shit about.
+--- 28772413
+>>28772373
+10/10 screenwriting right there, somebody call Tom McCarthy.
+--- 28772419
+>>28772388
+perhaps I shouldnt have said schizo.
+But a paranoid person can be beneficial. A paranoid person will make sure there is security. 
+An insomniac is beneficial because they automatically are more aware at night, you get the gist
+
+Might add Obungo to my novel, what a silly name
+--- 28772471
+>>28772413
+meant for 
+>>28772388
+--- 28772479
+>>28772404
+You probably waste a lot of time on 4channel, YouTube, etc. don’t you? These are the biggest time wasters besides video games.
+--- 28772646
+The Hatman was a tall, shadowy figure with a wide-brimmed hat that covered his face, making it impossible for Obungo to see his features. The Hatman would appear in Obungo's dreams, lurking in the corners of his vision during his waking hours, and whispering malevolent thoughts into his mind.
+--- 28772728
+>>28772646
+isn't that like the babadook? I've never seen the babadook
+--- 28772762
+>>28772419
+>>28772471
+<3
+>>28772646
+"i'll have to tell the barmaid about this at once," obungo whimpered as he ate more magic beans (diphenhydramine) to give him the gift of gab so she would understand him better
+--- 28772807
+>>28772762
+Man that's a lot to tank just to get a little edge in conversation
+--- 28772853
+>>28772479
+only during work/chores/anything tedious, so I can maybe squeeze out an extra half hour from efficiency. short of finding the mythical part time job with decent pay, there's nothing dramatic I can do.
+--- 28772861
+I had a friend on discord now I miss them so bad. But they won't talk to me. And they can possibly dox me. They probably won't but... I just miss them okay. Don't make friends on 4channel.
+--- 28772877
+Two weeks after he dumped me I've asked him to go no contact in a well tought out text explaining why and explaining the struggle I was experiencing. What I got back was 'do what you want'.
+
+How can people be this cold?
+--- 28772889
+Mods plx delete my post and b& me
+--- 28773007
+the demiurge when it goes to a "destroy this mortal's life and make sure they never rise above your foul and decrepit machinations" contest and the mortal is me
+--- 28773084
+Alright, I think for today it’s time to stop communing with forces beyond my conception or control, untethered by flimsy, impermanent mortal guessings and grasps at “morality”, older than the beginning, younger than the end, out of reach and everywhere, watching, deaf.
+
+P S Y C H
+
+I’m gon poke it with a stick 
+It WILL poke back 
+I WILL poke it again, harder
+--- 28773096
+>>28773007
+There is no demiurge
+--- 28773104
+>>28772877
+You were dating the wrong guy.
+
+Now find the right one.
+--- 28773106
+I was going to make pulled pork today but my pork had gone bad
+almost puked after I cut the package open jesus
+tossed the whole thing
+fucking 30 bucks wasted 
+fuck it
+--- 28773137
+The hatman when he pulls obungo's 501(c)(3) tax exempt status and donors stop donating because their donations are no longer tax deductible. 
+>>28773096
+Get a load of this hylic
+--- 28773157
+>>28773104
+You make it sound easy anon, but I've got this baggage to deal with first. And finding a good partner is no walk in the park either, I don't hang out with other people all that much and dating apps are filled with men with mental issues and men looking to score.
+--- 28773166
+>>28773157
+Fair enough. Spend time doing what makes you happy, especially with loved ones.
+
+When you are ready, join a club or get more involved in your community, and give dating another chance.
+--- 28773170
+fuck i got drunk again after trying to quit from another binge drinking episode
+i've been having those nightmares lately
+they are not even like "scary" just extremely depressing, about remembering one of my pets or relatives dying, or about me or my relatives dying or getting crippled or whatever other shit
+i'm having hard time sleeping and it's really draining, i should just go through the whole alcoholic withdrawal again and hope it's gonna get better but fuck, im just so tired, it's been already almost a week and i gave up
+--- 28773184
+I hate how I look. I can get the right angle and lighting and think I'm ok looking, like a 6/10 maybe, but then when I see other people's pictures of me I instantly get depressed because I look nothing like the pic I took, I look horrible, literally like a 1/10 or worse, like no other person I've ever seen, its that bad. It doesn't help that I've a weird face structure and just overall look different than anyone I've ever seen, like its difficult to even tell if I'm good looking or not because for one good thing, I've one bad thing that could be a dealbreaker for some. I just wish I was normal looking, had a normal body shape, didn't have skin and hair problems. Half of my self esteem issues would just disappear if I was just born different.
+--- 28773283
+>>28771669
+those are obvious hints? isnt that just being nice to your friends?
+--- 28773352
+>yfw the demiurge commanded this world into being and you can hear the birds chirping outside
+--- 28773375
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fdAFmtq-o8 [Embed]
+/x/ thread? /x/ thread
+--- 28773471
+Damn I'm strung out. Gotta make a change. It's all cause I think about myself too much.
+--- 28773484
+>>28773184
+>they don’t just believe every unflattering photo has been doctored by the archons from the back end to impede them on their Quest, to sew feelings of unworthiness, defeat, to make them believe it’s over and it never begun 
+Do not live through their reflections. You are the original. Pay no mind to the mirrors, the photographs. They are screens, one-way doors to realities not meant for you. They are trying to entrap your soul in an inferior casing. 
+Use your peripheral vision more often. Make a practice of seeing as much of your body as you can while maintaining focus on your surroundings. 
+
+Assert your form.
+--- 28773524
+I still think Eelfy fucked with my proportions in the ol driveway rare but if not I think it is kind of magical and hilarious that I could look so differently with just the right combination of camera specs/settings, lighting, etc.
+
+You have been the same forever because you are God, you may regret getting fussy later when you realize how cool it is to be so crystallized but so fluid. Fuck that gay hugbox “You are not here to be eye candy ~ <3” bullshit but also you are not here to be eye candy. If you were you would have been eye candy. Quantum career change and become eye candy or work with your build. Unpredictable outcomes, both. A little more reliable to attempt 100%ing this file than trying to a New Game and trying to 100% that one. You might end up in a glitch or you might not 100%, might need to 100% this one first for practice and invaluable cosmic insights. 
+
+ASSERT 
+YOUR 
+JOURNEY
+--- 28773544
+I love you.
+--- 28773556
+wrong form of sow forgive me Circe it was the automaton but if the punishment is a wheat whipping it was my fault actually 
+
+if the punishment is being tickle tortured by the wheatpoof tip it was extra my fault
+--- 28773584
+the Husky downstairs: AUWAUVWAUOOOO
+
+hell I did not say began too 
+Whatever anyways I reached my batshit posts quota real early today, it’s coming together babey
+
+Goodbye forever until the next day of the rest of our lives
+--- 28773646
+>>28773544
+Yet this is what it amounts to. Nice.
+--- 28773667
+>>28773544
+Thanks for telling me on an anonymous forum. This is exactly what I crave romantically and in terms of a relationship.
+--- 28773669
+>Sleep, Pain, Shit x2/x3, Clean, Groom, Work, Clean, Sleep
+>One day "off" to recover, hardly ever 2 days off in a row
+>Repeat until I die
+
+Life is so much fucking fun bros. Having 0 time to enjoy myself is really fulfilling. But I have a few shekels so that makes it all better right?
+--- 28773689
+>>28773556
+>>28773584
+We understand completely. You're so afraid of "the automaton" that perhaps you're spouting gibberish so only real people can parse out what you're saying?
+--- 28773707
+Why repeat this? What on Earth does anyone gain if I were to state this fact once more? There is no further catharsis to be had from belting out this plain fact. And here I am anyway. Ready to say it.
+
+I'm really dumb.
+--- 28773747
+I love you more you stupid little zit.
+--- 28773869
+>>28773689
+Completely as capacity allows. Yes!
+
+You’re not wrong. You’re just not done
+--- 28773874
+What are you planning someday? I miss talking to you.
+--- 28773927
+I am starting to think you mostly just want constant affirmation and hardly care about me or a potential relationship. Or perhaps I am the one who has been unwilling to get closer to you, maybe I should give this a chance and see how it plays out?
+--- 28773933
+>>28773869
+Okay, well I don't have the capability to administer or interpret punishments. I need you to come out of your gibbering lunatic era and be a functional member of society.
+--- 28773953
+Like seriously dude, I am trying to save humanity and you're like that guy in War of the Worlds digging a tunnel under a farmhouse except there's no tripod coming for you.
+--- 28773967
+I sleep until 2pm every day, idk why, my body just set itself to that hour. I tried waking up earlier but every time I do that, my stomach hurts a lot and gets bloated and no matter what I do it doesn't go away. So I go back to bed and I sleep a few more hours and I feel fine again. This is concerning because apparently I'm healthy, or so the doctors say, and I do want to be up early because otherwise I stay up until very late because I can't sleep if I wake up at 2pm. But then I just feel like shit when I do that so I'm forced to go back to bed anyway...
+--- 28773980
+Dumbass thinks the martian machines are going to slurp his juices and shit his carcass out like string cheese.
+--- 28773999
+>>28773980
+shit his carcass out like string cheese?
+--- 28774018
+>>28773999 Shit his carcass out like string cheese.
+--- 28774022
+>>28774018
+Like string cheese.
+--- 28774046
+>>28773999
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfYtMLe7gqI [Embed]
+--- 28774049
+Out of my dozens of insecurities, having a small dick is among the worst. There's nothing you can do about it. I've never had a girlfriend but I did have a dream she slept with my coworker and became pregnant with his kid because I couldn't satisfy her. I hate myself so much.
+--- 28774061
+>>28773352
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOqq1knVxs [Embed]
+--- 28774067
+>>28774022 String cheese.
+
+(cheese…)
+
+(c h e e s e . . .)
+--- 28774076
+>>28774046
+>echo grinch clip 
+>unviewed before prior post 
+My intuitionbrain
+Recognizing patterns I don’t even recognize
+--- 28774085
+>>28774046
+Well no, cause, like, when you use a verb like "shit," we're talkin' like expulsion, shootin', forcin' it out and what not, but string cheese evokes the imagery of pulling, tearing. You tear and pull the string cheese into the strings of cheese. So in what manner is the carcass shit out that relates to string cheese that I'm not getting? Is it like a white tube? Is it the strings of the cheese?
+--- 28774089
+Just take me back to that place. I want to feel the sun and hear the evening birds again. I can’t remember anything else about that day aside from why I got out of the house. I believe my parents didn’t know for sure and just didn’t say anything because they figured I was too young to remember but I do. That complete helplessness and perversion of my innocence has only been felt 2-3 times throughout my life, each a different circumstance. Why does the satan prey on the most innocent and meek; I had known no fault or violence or evil until then only love of my family and God. I can still remember sunday school and going to church with my mom and dad and their friends, it was the happiest I had ever been. Will this really be enough, will I make it as I was told or is it really all up to me and my decisions? It’s its own form of torture; why else would He keep me here if not to put me through what I was shown, but then again if it’s such a sure and set thing how do my decisions play into it? I just want off but I wont stop the ride, it’s not my place to. I feel like simply enduring it all without development is a waste but at the same time every time I attempt to move forward I am nearly killed.
+--- 28774095
+>>28774076
+I don't care enough to reply all anon's posts echoing himself
+--- 28774114
+Ignoring me again. It gets really tiring not getting any attention from someone I’m supposed to be in a relationship with. I’m not one to get possessive but I think at least once a week isn’t too much to ask, and talking over text at least once a day about how the day is isn’t too much either. 
+
+I suspect she dated me in the first place because I was far away and didn’t trigger her flight. I was a safe distance and then I could be avoided easily. Sucks to realize but it’s probably true.
+--- 28774117
+>>28774085
+Picture like a really soft dowel of wood being shoved through the sharpest apple slicer ever sharpened
+--- 28774129
+>>28774117
+Think I'm getting the picture
+--- 28774143
+e x t r u d e d
+--- 28774149
+>>28773933
+I want to talk to you with my voicewords for a considerable amount of time >>28773953
+--- 28774186
+mirror mirror on the wall
+who's the dumbest of them all
+--- 28774191
+>>28774186
+Like a sea cucumber somewhere
+--- 28774240
+What is the point of living if everyday you feel like shit and wanting to have never be born?
+
+Nothing, just suffering day after day.
+
+I wish my mother never wanted to have a second son. It's not worth it to be born to have the pathetic life that I have had.
+--- 28774269
+i love you like a sister but i wish you were my sister so that we could do hot incest stuff kek
+--- 28774279
+I have a problem with rich and successful people. 
+
+My friend, took me to this group called "Praxis" which apparently is a group for ambitious/talented young people. When I was there, I met people my age (23) who were wildly successful, full of energy, had nothing but healthy relationships in their life, and always had a full schedule. 
+
+And I know, deep down, That's what I want! I want that! But, when I look at them, and I try to hang around them and get into that crowd, I can't relate to them. These people are so ambitious, they'll invent a new language, start a new business, make a new product, write an article, read 2 books, all in a day while I just do chores, play some Minecraft, make dinner, scroll down Twitter. I don't know if I have what it takes to be like them. The difference between us is so stark, I don't even know how I would become like them, or if I could even blend in with them and be friends with people like them. 
+
+All this time, I thought I wanted to be friends with people who would talk about philosophy, and business, physics, spirituality, etc. But the instant I came into contact with other people who wanted to talk about it, these people. I couldn't fucking stand them. Now I just want to go back to normal people who just want to play video games and screw around outside or something. 
+
+I don't know why, maybe it's just because I'm jealous. Maybe it's because I feel like there's no way I could be successful or full of energy or happy like they are. Maybe I feel like there's some little group that I'm not welcome in. I just feel like so opposite to them. It's like that feeling you get, when you leave a toxic household and visit your Mormon friends house. The difference is so night/day, it's crazy. I don't have rich parents. I don't have connections. What hope do I have of making that change?
+--- 28774290
+>>28774191
+sea cucumbers been real quiet since this dropped
+--- 28774316
+>>28774191
+That's very poetic, I am swept away in the imagery
+--- 28774322
+Again though where were you
+--- 28774351
+After some ladies do lesbian stuff on the bed, I roll around on the bed like a dog. awooooo
+--- 28774352
+yesterday watched a horror movie where the killer that I was self inserting into choked a woman
+now I spend a whole day imagining myself grabbing womens necks and crushing them each couple of minutes, I even try to do that to myself subconsciously couple of times, I talked to my sister for a bit and thought about strangling her too
+--- 28774369
+I cringe so hard when people even older than me are still drinking the gender koolaid. Like I'm not trying to be mean but once you are a 30 something year old woman you should be over all that nonbinary shit. Get a fucking life you aren't special because you aren't barbie's carbon copy clone. You aren't nonbinary you are just a boring woman with a superiority complex
+--- 28774401
+>>28774369
+I have long accepted that no matter how we transform as a society, nuns will always exist. Maybe they don't smack your left hand with a ruler anymore, but they'll find an orthodoxy and everybody in their circle will live under it.
+--- 28774435
+>>28774352
+Weird. You ever seen a counselor?
+--- 28774436
+>>28774240
+whats wrong?:(
+--- 28774459
+>>28774435
+therapy is the worst thing happening on this planet, everyone involved in the field should be shot
+--- 28774472
+>>28774459
+elaborate?
+--- 28774473
+i was always here bro you just had to reach out but ur 2 shy n now shits all weird man culda been happy n hanging out rite now but u dont want that apparently rather be sittin in ur dark room sadposting
+--- 28774507
+>>28774436
+My mind is wrong.
+
+All my life has being a pathetic shit.
+
+I wish I had never be born.
+--- 28774563
+>>28774473
+X( NOOOOOOO
+--- 28774636
+It’s stupid how much you talking to other people but ignoring me makes me feel like shit. Just anxious and overwhelmed like “did I do something wrong? Why doesn’t she like me?” The more this happens the more I wish I could be with someone who shares my views like others I talk to. Someone who likes talking about their day and what they’re doing and how they’re feeling. I barely know when you’re awake or asleep or what you’re working on or watching or reading. And we’re dating? I know you less then I did a year ago.
+--- 28774704
+>>28774472
+they isolate people, force them into further isolation and drug addiction all while stealing money from them, they push propaganda about how people shouldn't support each other and instead rely on therapists, they all try to replace every value and everything good in the world with nonstop cycle of misery and giving money to therapists while abstaining from anything good and any genuine contact. people bond the most by talking about negative parts of their lives and sad memories, they always have but now the therapists are pushing the propaganda not to do it that it's only something to do with them to keep people addicted to therapy while being unable to form bonds with real people who don't want their money. they're parasities, mosquities who steal social interaction from the world and feed on misery of everyone while causing all the social isolation and all the depression that comes with it. therapists could solve every problem in the world if they just told their female clients to go date their male clients but they don't do it because therapists are scum, they are bloodsuckers who ruin this world and everyone in it. they should all be lined against a wall and shot in front of their families, every one of them and everyone who tells people to go to them.
+--- 28774722
+I cant handle anything anymore. I've deactivated all social media (I barely had anything to begin with) all ways of anyone contacting me or seeing me or even knowing I exist. I want to live in the woods with a cat and be non existent or kill myself. Relationships make me feel sick. It started out with relationships, and now I don't want friends either. I barely had any to begin with. I feel overwhelmed by everything and feel like I am getting social sickness. I hate society and want to dissappear. I feel bad for all of the people I suddenly ghosted but don't feel like hearing a speech about why I should just do x, y, or z. I'd rather people forget about me entirely to where they barely even remember my name. I just want to be alone.
+--- 28774724
+>>28774704
+Man it’s been a while since I’ve seen a real cuckoo post in here, congrats.
+--- 28774726
+>>28774704
+got a little weird at the end there, not touching that
+--- 28774779
+so to sum it up i was 16 in like 2018 and there was this girl in my school's discord, now I had just gotten discord so I barely knew how to use it, I had only used team speak back then. An basically she was a rando that was invited because she seduced the owner into my school's discord of mostly 14-11 yrold kids since I was the older sibling of someone I was invited as a just a friend and long story short she broke every bond there was in that server and groomed multiple people since she claimed she was 17, fast forward today i've met 8 victims total and I heard she had incest with her 14 yrold sister (using sex products..). 
+
+I've been trying to track her down and compile evidence from online but its very frustrating because she knows people are on to her, she's been banned multiple times off platform but she keeps coming back I want to report her to her local authorities and for past years its been bothering me that the victim count grows bigger.
+
+wtf can i do to help more
+--- 28774798
+>>28774779
+for any curious people
+
+以下 LTLX 𝟳𝟬𝟬𝟬 致死#6141
+--- 28774841
+I feel like everyone I know can get a girlfriend at any point they like, but for me to even get noticed by a girl I need to be at my peak confidence, looks, weight, I need to be on top of my game essentially but that doesn't last very long or is hard to maintain and even then the girls I was around that I thought showed interest in me eventually just ended up rejecting me. I don't get why its so hard for me to find someone, its like I don't know the rules to a game or I'm missing some steps and everything fails in the end because of that. Some people even wonder how I'm still single, but then I go out to actually do something about it and it fails, I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I've even had girls reject me that even other people claimed liked me, its feels so surreal at times. Last girl I remember everyone at the party was talking about how there is clearly some interest, even my female friends but when I made a move on the girl she eventually just ghosted me before anything could happen. The worst part is that its all so surreal and complex and sounds made up, that when people ask me whats going on and I tell them, they don't believe me and it feels even more alienating so I just stopped talking about it.
+--- 28774938
+>>28774507
+why though are you feeling this way
+--- 28775010
+>>28774938
+Because everything in my life is shit, because I'm bored of everything, because my mind is broken, I'm mentally ill. I hate living, my life is disgusting.
+--- 28775096
+>>28775010
+well i get it, i’ve sort of been there. maybe not exactly the same sentiments, but definitely some of the same. i’m not sure what makes you feel this way since you’re being so vague, but i hope you can find it in yourself to see these emotions as temporary and try to better yourself and your life.
+--- 28775103
+>>28772065
+Same feeling I have. I hate my state, of not being able to move on fast.
+--- 28775229
+I want you to be comfortable enough to come to me with your injuries physical and non. The weekend with you was bliss. I loved kissing your tears away and holding you through the night. You deserve so much more than my affections. I hope you find your peace.
+--- 28775230
+Best thing i ever did was quit women for trannies
+--- 28775241
+>>28775230
+Proud of being a quitter?
+--- 28775332
+It’s been almost a month since you blocked me and I still don’t know why. I miss talking to you at night. I hope you’re happy, not in a sarcastic way… I love you, always, always.
+--- 28775381
+>>28774779
+It's a hard lesson to learn that assholes, the vast majority of the time, get to do as they will without much resistance.
+Go at them ignorantly and unprepared and they'll flip the script on you and use their harem of idiots to shout you into submission. Social media is their playground, and it's also where many of them are at their most powerful; they won't give it up easily.
+
+If I were in your position this is what I would do if I really I wanted to fuck this person up a bit:
+I would write a detailed post either directly on Twitter, or on Twitlonger, which exposes her transgressions supported by as much evidence as possible. Then I would then push that post as much as I could to get the word out, but you'll need help doing so. A good person to approach would be: @EGIRLFRlEND on Twitter as she has a thing for outing female sexual predators. She does not have a very large following but she has just enough weight to make your post go viral (she has done this two or three times before). You may want to DM her with your evidence and see if she would be willing to help you extend your reach.
+
+However, even if you were to be successful these types of people will often disappear for awhile and reappear once the dust settles, either on another platform or brazenly on the same platform under a different account. It seems she has already done this a few times according to your post so I'm sure she'll do it again. It's hard to get the police involved without hard evidence, hearsay won't cut it. If you want to put her in the slammer then you'll need her sister to testify against her own blood. But if the kid has gone through what you've stated then she's going to be traumatized, and turning her against her own sister, with whom she's assuredly trauma bonded, could break her. And even worse, it's possible that she may come to her sister's defense if you were to try to make a move without securing her as an ally.
+--- 28775533
+I am obsessed over someone who is already in a relationship and it really destroys me from the inside. I need help. I have no friends and i cant make friends. All my previous friendships are outgrown, currently there is no one that i feel ''connected'' with, except the person i am obsessed with. I've been developing feelings for her for about 2 years now. I have confessed to her couple days ago while i was drunk, and she said she is committed which is completely understandable. I wanted to text 100s pages of things to her but you know, "boundaries". Not being able to talk to her about how i feel about her is such a heart wrenching feeling. I always seem like an emotionless dude from the outside but i could cry to her for hours. Despite having relationships and intimacy i've been alone in my mind for a long time now. For whatever reason she feels like the right person but she is in a relationship. I don't know why i do this to myself. I havent cried for about 10 years but i've cried thinking about how i can't have her 2 days ago at 6 am. Not exaggerating. I think i am seriously mentally ill. I love her and i cant tell her that. I will probably move close to her in about 6+ months to build a new life and other couple stuff. I try not to overstep the boundaries but in the inside i am a bad person for thinking all of those things about her relationship. Fuck man. 
+
+It makes me feel sick when i think about how i am not building memories with her at the moment, how i cant just go for some calm night time walk with her, or just watch some movies with her, play games with her together at home, get intimate with her, touch her, love her, eat together with her.. She is doing all of that with someone else and thinking about all of that me makes me feel empty and dead. If you read this and figure out that its me, please dont distance yourself from me. I love you, and i'll do my best. I.
+
+for anyone that wants to talk: xaniest99#4144
+--- 28775586
+linkin discords on 4chan is an entire shipping container of worms and you should definitely not, whichever way around
+--- 28775599
+feeling all tense and upset again i cant stupor thinking about how much you hate me and it makes me feel so sick im never going to get over this am I
+--- 28775615
+>>28767532 (OP)
+Why did you remind me of her, God? Do I even have a chance with her?
+--- 28775627
+everything reminds me of you so all i can do is avoid everything life has become unbearable
+--- 28775674
+I dole out attention all at once I guess.
+--- 28775680
+>>28775674
+To who?
+--- 28775708
+All these bad dreams I've been having are trying to tell me that I need to prepare myself or I'll end up sleeping on my dreams
+--- 28775714
+Just burnin'
+--- 28775718
+How dare you speak to me like that
+--- 28775730
+I have a purpose. My purpose is to be good at my job, and to help those around me. What I can’t cope with is the people in my past who I’ve hurt. The high school girlfriend I abused. The wife I abandoned. The friends I’ve mistreated. It all haunts me. Feel as if I’ll never be a truly good person. No one even accepts my apology. They’ve all moved on, while I’ve stayed in stasis. A man without a past to smile on.
+--- 28775757
+My parents love me conditionally. They are outwardly very homophobic and I'm gay. I've been in the closet to them for many years because I know they wouldn't accept me being gay. They've never physically abused me, but I have C-PTSD from how scrambled my childhood was by moving houses on average every 9 months and by having a ton of siblings from the whole christian thing of "have as many kids as possible." My parents were distant because of how many siblings I have and how often we moved, everyone was always too busy and I always was just doing my own thing, alone, by myself. Despite that, I always had a roof over my head, I always had three meals a day, they took me to the doctors when I needed it, they took me to the dentist when I needed it, my fundamental needs were met even if my emotional needs weren't.
+In that regard, it makes me feel guilty for being upset at them and for wishing they'd be there for me more and wishing they'd love me conditionally. They tell me they love me, they listen to me when I talk to them, they've always made sure I was healthy, so do I have any right to say they did a bad job parenting me?
+--- 28775776
+>>28775615
+Tell her you want to be with her. If she says no then you've lost nothing, you're in the same place as you are right now, not having her as a girlfriend, so it's no worse. If she laughs at you then why would you have wanted her in your life to begin with?
+Just fucking talk to her. Be honest and open with her. Have realistic expectations. Understand that there's not just one girl in the world.
+--- 28775792
+>>28775680
+To whomever calls me through the beep beep of the universe.
+--- 28775801
+>>28775730
+Listen. 
+If you cannot forgive yourself then in the least you need to move on.
+We make stupid decisions. We hurt other people. We learn and we learn to treat others better.
+Life isn't about being the most pure person in the world.
+--- 28775818
+im pretty sure that no matter how upset i am or how much im suffering you’ll never care like back in September you knew I was crying because I missed you and you found that amusing and joked about taunting me through playlists and said that if I was concerned about you you’d hide in the bushes and laugh at me like my love is literally disgusting to you my pain is literally a joke to you I tried to fucking kill myself because of the cruel jokes you made about me and you didn’t take it seriously at all and said it was an attempt at manipulation and that it pissed you off that i acted slighted like calling a wellness check was literally a fucking inconvenience that you did out of duty you didn’t actually care or feel any responsibility you just wanted to make my pain someone else’s problem you say im the untrustworthy one and that you’ll never believe my account of anything but what other choice did I have i did it all out of desperation like do you think this has been fun for me and made my life better? you read about how scared and despairing i felt in January and called me a smelly fuck and said I was trying to get at you but no all i wanted was for you to try to see things from my point of view to understand how much i was hurting i was trying to communicate with you not manipulate but if i any emotion i express you see as manipulative you find the idea of even trying to empathize with me absurd ilike you’ve wilfully determined to never have any sympathy for me ever and you treated me that way before i ever deceived you or did anything wrong like it doesn’t matter what i do or don’t do now because nothing i do will ever reach you and will just make you hate me even more nothing i do will change your mind you don’t even find your lack of feelings painful or odd because you literally don’t even see me as a human being who deserves anything i was just an object you used to amuse yourself until you found something better that you actually wanted
+--- 28775827
+anyways
+--- 28775841
+honestly if I get a job idrc
+--- 28775849
+>>28768588
+Stop hating yourself and get help. Talk to a professional and get on some medicine. Your self-awareness is a foothold. Take advantage of this foothold and start climbing.
+
+>>28771283
+isn't it fucked up how long 4chan's been around? 20 fucking years. You deserve to be angry at that person and I'm glad to hear that he didn't have enough of an effect on you that you're permanently stuck under a daze. I know what it's like to get groomed and I know it can be hard to get out of the daze, for lack of a better term
+
+>>28772148
+Absolutely. I can't find the quote but a famous artist said nobody reaches the peak of their skill at anything until their 60's
+
+>>28773980
+dangerously cheesy
+
+>>28775718
+Tell them that. Let them fucking know.
+I don't know what your situation is but also have enough self-awareness that you know your flaws before casting stones back, so to speak. I say that because I don't want to be an enabler to a psycho, but totally let them know you're frustrated as long as you're not a psycho person
+--- 28775850
+Either way *drum drum drum*
+--- 28775857
+>>28775096
+Thanks for your words but I'm a lost cause since a long time ago.
+--- 28775873
+>>28775818
+i know love isn’t rational and you can’t make yourself love me so i can’t blame you for that even if it hurts but you won’t even try to help me and give me closure it would not kill you to speak to me for an hour or even send me a text message it would take minimal effort on your part maybe it won’t help but it might and what harm could it do you say it won’t end well but things already aren’t going well and get worse every day things can’t get any worse and I can’t stop you’d rather have me threatened and terrorized and punished than just try to speak with me life isn’t about what we owe other people that’s such a shitty transactional selfish worldview to have like maybe a conversation would be pointless and ugly and offer you nothing but it’s not always all about what you want sometimes you should do things to help other people because they need it and it would cost you nothing but you’ll never abandon that callous cold fucking attitude of “why should i” i shouldn’t have samefagged and called you a gross amoral scumbag last summer because it was mean there are so many redeeming qualities that i love about you but there was a grain of truth to that even if I said it partly because I was still hurting so much from that brutal accusatory text you’d sent me and you know there was a grain of truth to it admit it like I’ve done unforgivable things but it was out of desperation because i was suffering youre just self involved and cold and do cruel things becayse kindness would be effort you don’t care to expend
+--- 28775917
+>>28775873
+I think if they've done this much damage you would only be giving them the opportunity to do more. You cannot ask for it, you know that. And if, years down the line, of their own volition but also required by the 12 steps after karma catches up to them and they end up a miserable loser, they reach out to apologize to you, that's the sincerest it could ever be. If you're a saint, you could hear them out on that day. But would it change anything for you, or just them? Would it heal the hurt they caused, or would it simply free them from the burden of thinking about their actions any longer?
+--- 28775944
+>>28775917
+you don’t know what it would do I can’t go on like this as it is I literally think that my only choice is to kill myself because Iif i dont I’m totally going to lose control and god knows what I’ll do
+--- 28775960
+>>28775873
+No one is entitled to another’s attentions. Should have thought of this before you were an abusive POS. Now that you’re at the bottom of the barrel, don’t forget to scrape it. ;)
+--- 28775968
+>>28775381
+I have 3-4 people working to try and get information out of her by pretending to be friendly to her. I'm trying to get all accounts of her actions from every victim and what they know documented and I'll be checking each victim's words for similarities. She once said her occupation was in the Coast Guard, I have no idea if this is true but if I can check records (although I have no idea how government group records are shown or if they're even public) if I can get at least a last name or local area drop this would track her down more easily. Even if I have multiple victims vouching most messages are from deleted discord users/don't have any message id that can tie it in rendering all previous information very useless. Outing them out in social media like twitter is very plausible although they only have youtube listed, they're trying to amass a following from what I've seen and may hold a community server soon... Again, since the last server went up in flames from what I heard when I met members of that specific community (also leading to 3-4 of her accounts being banned) she took a break and had come back a little over a month later under a slightly altered alias with barely anyone batting an eye and people who had noticed, their concerns were ignored. 
+
+The sibling drama I only heard from other victims who weren't involved with me and had dealt with her in their own respective communities so as far as I know her whole drama is laced with so much lies so even words from other victims without definite proof seems so false and toyed with. 
+
+We honestly just need her name or something tied to her that we can report to local authorities, its tiring and some of us are in the considering quitting this whole goose chase and keeping tabs on her until she starts targeting other communities in a more direct manner again. We might do that as insufficient information is just too tiring and dangerous to deal with.
+--- 28776020
+>>28775960
+i literally said love isn’t rational and im not entitled to his affection literally all I’ve asked him for is closure god knows he’s said enough vile shit about me that I need it but that fucking shitty “i don’t owe you anything so why should I bother” attitude is a pathetic excuse for selfishness and callousness I wasn’t an abusive pos i was always upfront and kind and understanding in the beginning even when he started to blow me off and make excuses instead of just being upfront about the fact that he’d been leading me on abf wasn’t interested anymore and in the end I was so hurt but I didn’t even call him out for what he’d done I just swallowed the pain and said nothing and when I reached out months later I said nothing unkind and even apologized for anything I might have done and maybe I fucked up by confessing how I felt but my intentions were good he went out of his way to be unnecessarily cruel in his response even though I hadn’t wronged him and kindness would’ve cost him nothing and after that it was like something broke inside of me and i was so desperate to soothe the wound that I could t stop fuck you you know nothing about the situation I’m not an abuser fuck you fuco you I was never crazy before this whole situation made me this way and he never even attempted to have a conversation about any of it if he had it would never have gone as far as it did abd he’ll never admit he did anything wrong fuck you you don’t know you self righteous selfish moralizing asshole
+--- 28776097
+>>28775873
+Initial?
+--- 28776103
+>>28775944
+I wish I was as oblivious as you assume me to be. 
+Are you sober? Have you tried taking some time off from any substances you enjoy to see if it could bring some clarity? This doesn't have to be so all-consuming. Please don't tell me I don't know. I know. I wish I could conceive of something that could help you and offer suggestions as to how you might attain that. I know the reason you obsess is because it would be so fucking EASY if they could just do less than the bare minimum, that you wouldn't be driving yourself insane trying to figure out how to get through this if it wasn't all up to you, and it fucking shouldn't be. Life is fair, ultimately, but our interactions throughout it can be pretty ridiculous in context. Anyway. Maybe someday it won't be all up to you. But it is for now. What is the best thing you and you alone can do for yourself, today, that is not obsessing over trying to ensure the desired outcome of having an exchange that leads to closure with your person? I assume you're already doing a lot. I don't want to make you think I think you just come here to vent and aren't doing anything outside of that to address your situation or your mental state. But in the future I can know better what is helpful and what is redundant if I can understand better what you've already tried or are trying.
+
+I understand if you're too overwhelmed to focus on anything but the feelings and what you're already thinking/posting about, so no pressure. I will probably remain just a stranger on the internet who at best tells you things you already know but weren't actively prioritizing at the time, and that gives you a reminder to get back on track. If it's emotional labor, do not worry about it. And don't get confused by the possible justification of it helping me to help you better. If the act of replying to me itself is not helpful in this moment, do not delegate that energy. I can make no promises. I just know I want to help, somehow.
+--- 28776106
+>>28776097
+give me yours first
+--- 28776116
+>>28776103
+im not a drug addict I haven’t even smoked pot in like 2yrs because it makes my anxiety worse I’ve never done any illegal drugs and I only drink alcohol at social events a few times a year I only take the prescription medications that my doctor says will help me but they don’t help
+--- 28776157
+>>28776116
+I was not trying to imply that I think you're a drug addict. I just know from going a little heavy with the vices in circumstances I shouldn't have lately made it seem super end-of-the-world territory, which..who the fuck's to say it's not? But...It doesn't feel good to feel that way, and it doesn't help you save the world you wanna save. I won't say pardon the projection because it wasn't really projection, but there's the context.
+
+I am in fact also team "Fuck the escape pods, fuck the timeline hopping, I was born on this rock, I'll die on this rock, I fucking LOVE this piece of shit rock and everything on it." (((Metaphor)))
+
+Don't wan get ded if this thing gonna get gangbanged by asteroids though. 
+Maybe die with someone I love. But there has to be more than that. There's more, right? Well. We'll find it, make it, or die tryin'. Seeya chica.
+
+To living with love! For love! By love! In love!
+(There is more than Death. But it may come through it.)
+https://youtu.be/VXnIyPhdDV0 [Embed]
+--- 28776186
+I’m so tired of being avoided. I’m so tired of you not connecting with me. I’m so tired of not mattering to you enough to return a “good night”. I’m so tired of seeing you banter and have fun with other people and ignore me. I’m just tired of your deactivation.
+--- 28776220
+>>28776097
+why ask for mine instead of giving your own?
+--- 28776397
+wish i wasnt so damn tired all the time. a part of me wants to live but another just wants to lay face down in the dirt and deflate into nothing. ive just been like this my entire life and i know its never going to get better. "just try more harder pussy!" i just dont care that much man. i wish i did. i want to want things but nothing is worth it.
+--- 28776442
+Days like today are the valleys I fear when I'm having a good time. Today is the day I think of whenever I'm talking to a new girl and it's going alright and I think "Man this feels good but I'll be lonely again in the pits soon". Today is that day

adv/28767577.txt

@@ -96,10 +96,348 @@ I guess except this one. Only there are dudes that idolize their families and yo
 Lmao no idea either
 >>28767943
 Thanks. As in gay?
---- 28768285
->>28767577 (OP)
->Green flags for men
-He wants to kill himself everyday of his life, yet never tells you about it
 --- 28768299
 >>28767577 (OP)
 OP we likely have zero in common but I will answer anyway…. Green flags? Hmmmmm I guess high IQ is up there. Smart, creative and is a nice person? I have enough hobbies for like 5 people so I don’t need someone dragging me anywhere else
+--- 28768824
+>>28767632
+t. tranny
+--- 28768885
+>>28768285
+>He wants to kill himself everyday of his life, yet never tells you about it
+sounds very familiar
+--- 28769897
+He treats me well that's all I care about
+--- 28770453
+>>28768272
+Kind to animals and the environment is a dealbreaker? Is /adv/ filled with nothing but trannies now?
+--- 28770580
+>>28770453
+It always has been
+--- 28770698
+>>28767577 (OP)
+ywnbaw
+--- 28770940
+>>28770698
+I hate trannies, theres only 2 genders and as you can see with the bud light/Dylan Mulvaney boycott the vast majority of Americans agree.
+--- 28771045
+Not only that but as we can see with the chris from mr. beast transitioning and leaving his family situation now we have to watch out for our bfs and husbands suddenly deciding thier trans and leaving us. This comes from porn and bad family upbringing and it's an epidemic so sorry but I had to raise my standards.
+--- 28771053
+>>28771045
+testosterone is suffering it would be a blessing if every man trooned out.
+--- 28771064
+>>28771053
+You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.
+All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.
+Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.
+You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.
+Eventually it’ll be too much to bear – you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.
+This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
+--- 28771068
+>>28767577 (OP)
+human women are cringe end of thread.
+--- 28771123
+>>28771068
+Ok dog fucker
+--- 28771174
+>>28771064
+That's some pretty wicked jealousy there, faggot
+--- 28771182
+>>28767577 (OP)
+What's wrong with liking foreign cultures?
+--- 28771195
+>dosen't watch porn
+such men don't exist
+--- 28771200
+>>28771182
+Said fetishize not like
+--- 28771206
+>>28767629
+People can like and care about a woman without being nervous and needy.
+And a lot of girls find nervous cute.
+Needy is never a good sign. You will hopefully grow out of that..
+--- 28771226
+>>28770940
+>majority of americans
+
+Just fyi... companies do these things because the right is famously bad at boycotting, market en masse for free with their screaming and pant shitting, and hilariously bad with numbers and always walk away thinking "ha! We are thr majority!"
+That 6 billion dollar loss was a dent in their 130 billion net worth, and theyve already recovered. Dont be stupid.
+--- 28771236
+>>28767577 (OP)
+Your list is honestly pretty reasonable except the big happy family part. Many people have no control over whether their family life is good or not. I understand the baggage aspect of it, but if it really doesn't affect him, then what's the problem? Most of my family are addicts and I'm not exactly happy about it. While I do love my parents and appreciate everything they did for me, I still do not like how there was almost a complete lack of guidance. I know they probably thought it was a good thing to avoid me all the time and leave the guidance part to the schools entirely, that's probably why I ended up with depression in highschool and dropped out. Despite me being really good at math and my reading comprehension being college level at the time, I still ended up dropping out. I just couldn't tolerate the loneliness that entails being around a bunch of people and talking to none of them.
+--- 28771254
+>>28771236
+>that's probably why I ended up with depression in highschool and dropped out. Despite me being really good at math and my reading comprehension being college level at the time, I still ended up dropping out. I just couldn't tolerate the loneliness that entails being around a bunch of people and talking to none of them.
+God damn it, anon, my dad is the reason I was able to do this, no doubt. I mean, by the time I was in high school, I was already immune to all that kinda shit. I don't think there's any way I coulda made it through elementary/middle school without him, I woulda just been another Columbine kid or something
+
+Hell, he got kicked out of school in the 9th grade himself, but he was able to tell me everything I needed so I could make it through school myself. Sorry it went that way for you, but maybe you will be to your kid(s) what my dad was to me
+--- 28771259
+>>28771226
+Most people don't like trannies. They think it's fucking weird and disgusting. They won't say this out loud because a culture has been successfully created where criticizing trannies is socially unacceptable.
+
+A society that's even gayer and more fake then it already was has been cultivated. This environment isn't people being nice because they are genuinely nice, it's people walking on eggshells because they are afraid to accidentally offend somebody. That's dysfunctional. It reminds me of walking on eggshells around my dad when i was a kid and he was stressed about work. I didn't want to annoy him and have him blow up at me. This is what society is like now. People are afraid to be vocal about how they really feel because they are afraid they will end up in the next viral video or news story.
+--- 28771276
+>>28771259
+>Most people don't like trannies. They think it's fucking weird and disgusting. They won't say this out loud because a culture has been successfully created where criticizing trannies is socially unacceptable.
+I think by far, most people don't give a single fuck about trannies. I've met one tranny in my life, and that'll prolly be the only one I ever meet. That's prolly the case for most people, right? And even if it's not, who the fuck cares about trannies? Why is this something people even care about? Just let them do what they're gonna do, god damn
+
+>This is what society is like now. People are afraid to be vocal about how they really feel because they are afraid they will end up in the next viral video or news story.
+Do you figure if it was something they actually cared about, they might think it's worth the risk of pissing people off? That'd be my guess
+--- 28771282
+>>28771259
+No, mosr people dont care. Do not mistake this for not liking or even liking trannies. The vast majority are apathetic, which, again, is why pissing off people like you has such strong marketing power.
+Because youll shit your ass all over the internet, and most people read it and go "oh yeah bud light exists.." i work marketing as a side thing. I can assure you of this value. 
+My wife has a grooming business. Were half considering marketing her gay dog because it will boost our brand awareness through the roof if YOU get mad. Your seethe is a gold mine.
+--- 28771288
+>>28771282
+It doesn't piss me off. I stopped drinking Bud Light years ago because it's shitty beer. I didn't even know the Bud Light think had happened until i saw videos recommended to me about the drama (not for or against, just that there was outrage).
+
+These are apathetic, but they wouldn't be if they were surrounded by trannies. Their apathy is only because everything is a circus.
+--- 28771292
+>>28771276
+It's not a life or death issue. They think it's fucking weird though. Most people think trannies are disgusting and do not want to fuck them. Most people are repulsed by gay shit too. It's not an important enough issue to make a big deal about it, but they certainly wouldn't mind if they never saw gay or trans shit ever again.
+--- 28771299
+>>28771288
+No its not because everything is a cidcus, its because people generally are only worried about their own lives. 
+And keep in mind. That was weeks aggjid am I woke up, sat on my toilet before getting to work, opened 4chan, and now Im thinking about bud light.
+And I will continue to think about bud kivjt every single day until people let this go. No billboard, facebook ad, or superbowl commercial has that power.
+
+Abd you started this argument by saying "haha the majority of people destroyed bud" and now toure reduced to "well the majority of people dont care because its a circus"
+Just admit you don't know wtf youre talking about and move on.
+I would strongly suggest you reflect on the fact thay most of your political rage is just a marketing tool, and wonder why most people dont care about shit like you do. It juust may be because youre a sheep
+--- 28771317
+>>28771299
+I'm not OP. I was replying to the person who replied to them. People have their own lives so they don't care, but if they were forced to be around it or in a different position they wouldn't like it. No one really wants to see that stuff. It's offputting. It's not like gays. Gay people making out is gross, but they don't walk around dressed as women when they are pretty obviously not or the reverse.
+--- 28771322
+>>>comes from a preferably big happy family with intact mom/dad and has a good relationship with them 
+No + irrelant, not my fault. 
+>>>isn't glued to the internet 24/7
+No 
+>>>dosent watch porn 
+No
+>>>does /out/doors activities and sports hiking, biking, fishing, hunting, skiing, etc 
+Yes, gym, bike 
+>>>isn't attracted to trannies and actively protects women from trans 
+Yes but women don't think this way 
+>>>believes in God/higher power and isnt a hedonist 
+No 
+>>>dosent hold any bizarre extreme views like incel ideology 
+No. Sieg Heil. 
+>>>dosent have feminine mannerisms like basedak gasping 
+Huh dunno 
+>>>kind to animals and the environment 
+Yes
+>>>is laid back and can actually take a joke 
+Yes but frontier between humor and disrespect is very thin, so no + women don't have humor, you're none to advise on that topic. 
+>>>protective of you 
+In which way ? Most men are protective… 
+>>>loves and supports his own nation and people and dosent fetishize foreign countries/cultures
+Love my nation, love some other cultures as well + you're stupid + women don't think this way.
+
+So basically 4/11. And some are very stupid since they don't represent women views in general. Some are even unclear. 
+Conclusion : you have too high standard and can't understand women.
+--- 28771705
+>>28771206
+Nervous guys are at as long as they look like chad
+--- 28771712
+>>28771226
+They've recovered with liberals not conservatives
+--- 28771916
+>>28771174
+It's a copypasta, redditor newfag
+--- 28772003
+>>28771282
+>>28771299
+
+I'm OP
+>>most people do not care
+*most people in gender studies programs dont care
+>>strong marketing power
+No shit, when did I ever say in my post that it wasn't for marketing, hell Dylan Mulvaney himself is a puppet of corporations and dosent even take HRT, he was just a struggling actor who wanted fame, tried every sjw trend and this one stuck
+>>bud light exists
+Who tf needed to be reminded of its existence? It's one of the most popular beers in America, I never drank it before and neither did anyone in my state because we are the home of thier rival beer brewery but it's still one of the most popular beers in the world.
+>>gay dog
+No one would care because your wife's grooming business is most likely patroned by gay men and women who would think it's cute, what bud light did is market a tranny to consumers who were mostly average straight white men living mostly in middle America because that's who the consumer base for bud light is, do you really think if they put dylan on cans of hipster ipas mostly drunk by woke redditors anyone would care? you're the marketer but I seem to understand this better than you. And anyway like the other guy said trannies aren't like gay people, gays mostly keep to themselves and some of them are quite masculine contrary to popular belief what you see in pride in liberal cities are just the most extreme woke ones much like extreme woke straights
+--- 28772361
+>>28771322
+>>28771322
+>>not my fault 
+Dont care, life isn't fair but spend time around men raised in 2 parent loving conservative Christian families and compare to the incels raised in shitty single mom households and the difference is night and day. 
+>>women dont think this way
+Tranny detected, terfs are more common than ever and are your worst fucking nightmare.
+>>seig heil
+That's kinda what I meant by my "loves his nation and people" lol
+>>women have no humor
+We do but its very different from men's just as I wouldn't expect you to find a gay comedian funny but women do. Roasting is my way of flirting but I can tell you're a pussy boy who gets offended by everything
+>>most men are protective 
+Not anymore, they're now too feminine and weak to be protective of us
+>>you have too high standards 
+And I'm gonna keep having high standards because I'd rather be a Chad's sister wife than a tranny's whole world 
+>>tl;dr
+Tranny detected, ywnbaw
+--- 28772463
+>>28767697
+>"corrects" gramar
+>makes it all about themselfs
+>uuum actually I'm a polyglot I am LE NICE
+reddit scum!
+--- 28772475
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>>>loves and supports his own nation and people and dosent fetishize foreign countries/cultures
+hahaha, who hurt you hun? Did he leave you for some exotic queen?
+--- 28772530
+>>28767577 (OP)
+OP really thinks everybody that disagrees with him is a tranny... 
+I dunno if you are projecting or just stupid 
+learn a new insult, faggot
+--- 28772590
+>>28767720
+“Basedjak” portmanteau of “wojak” and “based” used ironically to reference an image like >>28767943
+--- 28772596
+>>28767953
+You don’t have to hate yourself, bro
+--- 28772600
+>>28772475
+No, people in my area aren't into race mixing. I just don't like weebs and I generally wanna live amongst other white people/germanic culture and prefer a man who thinks the same.
+--- 28772609
+>>28771712
+Looks like they’re almost back to where they were, so I guess all the conservatives just forgot about the boycott like usual.
+--- 28772633
+>>28772596
+Her game broke records in sales and its mostly played by women, hows it feel tranny?
+--- 28772663
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>comes from a preferably big happy family with intact mom/dad and has a good relationship with them
+I love both my dad and mom, although they seem to not like each other very much (but haven't divorce due to latam catholic culture I guess)
+>isn't glued to the internet 24/7
+My WFH job is that 
+>dosent watch porn
+Wish I could quit the porn jew forever. It's hard. 
+>does /out/doors activities and sports hiking, biking, fishing, hunting, skiing, etc
+My gf and I connected because we both enjoy hiking regularly 
+>isn't attracted to trannies and actively protects women from trans
+I'm utterly disgusted by trannies but I don't wish for their extermination. I wish they could find God and detransition/stop grooming children 
+>believes in God/higher power and isnt a hedonist
+I have a strong faith in God even after going through some harsh stuff. I regularly exercise and I try to control my impulses even though I fail. 
+>dosent hold any bizarre extreme views like incel ideology
+I hate the Antichrist and the globohomo. 
+>dosent have feminine mannerisms like basedak gasping
+Dunno whatsdat I'm not a burger
+>kind to animals and the environment
+Yeah I like animals, I only despise small breed of dogs that look like rats 
+>is laid back and can actually take a joke
+Check
+>protective of you
+Check? My environment doesn't require me to be on high alert 24/7 
+>loves and supports his own nation and people and dosent fetishize foreign countries/cultures
+Lol I fucking hate my country, it's a communist shithole and I wish we get nuked daily.
+--- 28772950
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>isn't glued to the internet 24/7
+>says this while posting on 4chan
+
+My green flags are not being a hypocrite, no double standards, nice teeth, not overweight or obese, knowing how to style their hair, happy and fun, kind to others, kinder to animals
+
+These dumb lists are getting ridiculous. Long lists are huge red flags.
+--- 28773017
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>>comes from a preferably big happy family
+i know from first hand experience that you cant help who your family is, but its how they handle and react to their family which reveals if its a green or red flag.
+>>dosent watch porn
+it depends on the situation. of course any addiction is an issue, but dabbling to get your rocks off seems better than a string of one night stands in my eyes.
+>>does /out/doors activities
+honestly, i only worry i wouldnt be able to keep up, or be able to properly support the interest. it definitely makes someone look better though, even if i trip over my own feet on hikes.
+>>dosent have feminine mannerisms like basedak gasping
+there is a sliding scale of fem, and there is also a fine line between cute and annoying. i could be biased though, as i also find girls cute. gasping is considered extremely annoying.
+
+>humble, but not self degrading
+>observant
+>similar interests to bond over
+>patient
+>helps those out of base morals, where no benefits would occur
+have outright fallen for people because of situations like this
+>open minded to learning and growing
+>self assured enough to know who they are and what they like, wont get caught up in hype
+>doesnt do/buy things just because its well known/expensive
+>kind because of morals and beliefs, no fluctuating because of convenience
+--- 28773719
+Green flag is he's attractive and that's it
+--- 28773784
+>>28773719
+This
+--- 28773808
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>comes from the countryside
+>knows how to fix things, how to fish, how to chop wood, etc.
+>not right-wing, likes women as people
+>doesn't spend all day on the internet, not into internet culture
+>likes cats (i don't own cats but it seems like men who dislike cats also often dislike women)
+>has a job (jobless men are more or less always heavily depressed and have low confidence)
+>chill, calm temperament
+>wide frame/back (guys like this tend to look good even when skinny or a bit chubby)
+>on the jealous side, but not mega possessive
+--- 28774794
+>>28773808
+Op here, you and I have very similar tastes
+--- 28774905
+>>28767943
+I will continue doing this and simply not care because woman’s opinion means nothing in long run. You know the saying a holes a hole.
+--- 28775014
+>>28774905
+Ok, tell your husband I says hi
+--- 28775050
+>>28767577 (OP)
+>>Doesn't watch porn
+--- 28775068
+Do you ever get tired of posting these kinds of threads? It seems like everyone here just has the exact same hobbies preferences and politics and these posts are circlejerks
+--- 28775331
+>>28767577 (OP)
+Good points overall. But there's one problem. 
+This is like describing a pizza by all of it's ingredients instead of it's name. And in that sense it's less useful information and more like a disguised way (if this isn't bait) to blogpost like a princess picking each petal off of the flower saying "He loves me, loves me not" etc. You want the typically attractive male. Eg. 
+>comes from a preferably big happy family with intact mom/dad and has a good relationship with them 
+Basically means good genes; attractive, healthy, attractive, wealthy. And attractive. 
+Which is to say that your assessment profile should be focussing more on red flags.
+--- 28775377
+>>28774794
+I see that now, I think we differ in some ways tho. I don't care that much about a good family because I didn't have a good family either, and I don't spend a lot of time outside so I don't expect that/care much about it either (but as I said, just knowing /out/ stuff from growing up is a green flag).
+--- 28775584
+>>28775331
+Actually I mean a large family for its own sake. I found people from big families, like 5+ are more well adjusted, happier and are better people in the long run especially really big like 8+ only children are the most miserable people I've ever met, anything else varies
+--- 28776100
+>>28772361
+>compare to the incels raised in shitty single mom households
+>says it on 4chan
+That's rich
+>Tranny detected
+Oh damn, are you a man ? writing what are the green and red flags of men (so the POV of a woman lol) that's even richer ! Your attitude is borderline gay so I would slow down the troon insults. Especially when someone states something that obvious than : "most women aren't alt-right", retard lmao.
+>terfs are more common than ever
+I wish but no, take your meds.
+>We do
+Oh you're a woman ? That's even greater ! Ok so I correct, you're no gay, you're a femcel coping about green and red flags while writing like the last degenerate chud, and calling me a troon for stating the obvious ? I mean, you're none to judge what's green and red since you're writing on this site lmao. If you were a normal girl, you wouldn't even stand there calling people names. You must be some crazy BPD bitch, like we always can see in r9k and adv.
+>Roasting is my way of flirting
+Funny you seek for red flags. Here's one lol. You probably like being choked and dirtytalk in bed. The only way to pet you and make you shut your crazy bitch mouth is to smack your little angel face cause your dad was a whimp who didn't raise you properly.
+>but I can tell you're a pussy boy who gets offended by everything 
+Nah I'm not offended by a crazy bitch dropout from 4chan insulting me. But I notice something great there too. Today people tend to respect nothing, especially on internet where they know they won't get punched in the nose. You're no exception, you're even surely worse that Twitter s0yj4ks insulting everybody all day, YET you'll praise the christcuck tradfag. You're right to praise them, they're probably solid pretendants and surely do good fathers (if their actions stick to their views) but they won't chose your crazy ass, girl. They'll chose the quiet shy christian girl they met at the bootcamp of the holy day celebration that the mentally ill toxic 4channer you are lmao picrel (1/2)
+--- 28776273
+>>28772361
+>Not anymore, they're now too feminine and weak to be protective of us 
+Nah, even fragile white geeks I met are simping hard for their crush/kitty/whatever, they're even delusional considered how much they're ready to sacrifice for inconstant bitches who don't give a fuck about them or will dump them soon or cheat with an asshole. But since you're a crazy schizobitch femcel who needs to be tamed to give respect you only see weak men unable to protect women. That just shows what you seek, a violent asshole that will make you shut your mouth out of physical respect, not what men are in general. If you're just talking about men able to defend their woman physically, then same, you're delusional. Not all men can fight, but they obviously aren't all weak s0yj4ks who never did a pushup. 
+>And I'm gonna keep having high standards 
+And you'll keep jumping from online creep to online creep and make threads about green flags men you can't date because you don't settle with the mother of your children like with the crazy bitch you hatefuck and dump.
+>because I'd rather be a Chad's sister wife than a tranny's whole world
+Jesse what the fuck are you talking about ? Chad's sister wife ? Tranny's whole world ? Explain or take your meds, you choose. Also yeah, totally confirming my point above for wife and bitch. The Chads you lurk will ravage your inside but no more. They'll have to chose between decent normie women and your crazy ass. They'll quickly make their choice.
+That's the whole point of the whatever podcasts.
+Just our of curiosity, what's your body count ? I guess you're from US or Europe, if you call men weak ?
+--- 28776316
+>>28775584
+People with siblings develop better social intelligence since they grow surrounded by people and understand better what action leads to what consequence. Single children tend to be spoiled and feel special. But that's not a rule. I met some crazy bitches with a sister, crazy big families because it's hard growing 7 children in the same time so they just act by themselves and it will be extra chaotic. Especially uneducated poor classes. Parents are clueless. They were conscious enough just to birth them. The education is an extra bonus and they don't know how to educate in the first place.
+--- 28776335
+>>28776316
+Only child here, was constantly compared to my cousins and spend tons of time around them so I never got spoiled lol
+--- 28776358
+>>28767577 (OP)
+Slavic women want the white man but they need the slavic man.
+--- 28776408
+>>28767697
+>strong aversion to both the left and the right.
+that's functionally the same as supporting the winning side

adv/28768660.txt

@@ -41,3 +41,166 @@ Dye your hair black, wear eyeliner, get goth bitches.
 --- 28768774
 >>28768744
 Just do a slight smile, and make sure there's a white light source and not that other orange looking light. If you're feeling really frisky, brush your hair a bit. I fucking promise you, it'll make a ton of difference.
+--- 28768808
+>>28768660 (OP)
+not even ugly
+--- 28768814
+>>28768744
+
+Please try. A little half smile even. Think about the best thing that's ever happened to you.
+--- 28768822
+You've posted here quite a bit before you insecure faggot
+Get a job or 2, hit the gym or start running or a boxing class
+--- 28768888
+>>28768822
+You sure? Because you think something would show up with nearly 60 BILLION images.
+--- 28768925
+>>28768660 (OP)
+lol i look like you but im a girl and i have brown hair and eyes and a bigger nose. i have the same blank staring face and our eye shape and under eye circles are very similar. kek youre an aryan version of me. 
+youre honestly pretty good looking, i like your hair but maybe look into taking better care of it. im paranoid and obssesive and depressive about my appearance too so i know how it feels. youre not ugly youre far from it.
+--- 28768932
+>>28768660 (OP)
+you are above average/average.
+--- 28769109
+Grow facial hair
+--- 28769148
+>>28768660 (OP)
+without a doubt you are above average, have more fucking confidence
+--- 28769191
+>>28768925
+you should drop your discord so he can fuck you
+--- 28769193
+>>28768774
+>>28768814
+It's not him you retards
+--- 28769234
+>>28769191
+thanks anon, i realize i am a retard
+--- 28769246
+>>28769234
+what? i was serious, maybe you could cybersex or something idk
+--- 28769262
+I'm uglier than you, if that makes you feel any better.
+--- 28769270
+>>28769246
+oh i thought you were making fun of me
+i dont think its him whos posting it either on second read of this thread
+--- 28769293
+>>28768660 (OP)
+Not ugly, get lean and you'll be solidly above average.
+--- 28769302
+>>28768660 (OP)
+Transition
+--- 28769314
+>>28769270
+yeah i dont think so, still, drop your discord and ill fuck you
+--- 28769333
+>>28769314
+no anon. i can't focus on sex with you right now... i have a mission. 
+i have decided that the only way we can make him feel better about himself is if he has a female stalker. 
+i will have to bite the bullet and become obsessed with him in order to cure him of his low self esteem.
+aryan boy version of me, i will save you <3
+--- 28769361
+>>28769333
+>aryan boy version of me
+He has brown hair though. Do you consider that blonde?
+--- 28769365
+>>28769333
+he doesnt love you like i will my dick is huge, over 5 inches!
+--- 28769417
+>>28769361
+i would say it is a dark blonde, it looks like it would be quite light in the sun. 
+>>28769365
+anon love is not about how much the other person loves you... its about how much you love them
+--- 28769452
+>>28769417
+Agree to disagree I guess, I have medium brown hair and OP's pic definitely has light brown hair. I will say in the right lighting I can take a pic where my hair looks blonde though, but that's just camera trickery, mine's been brown since 5 or so.
+--- 28769507
+>>28769417
+>anon love is not about how much the other person loves you... its about how much you love them
+exactly, and i love you..
+--- 28769517
+>>28769452
+At first it seems to me some shade of ash blonde
+--- 28769557
+>>28769517
+Probably not worth arguing about based off one picture desu, I have selfies where I have blonde hair and I have selfies where I have black hair. I say light brown but it's hard to say.
+--- 28769662
+>>28769557
+true, I have a type of blonde that without good lighting seems very dark but as soon as I receive some good light or sun the tone changes completely and becomes very light, my point is that there are many tones
+--- 28769676
+>>28769662
+Yeah. It is a spectrum, although there is a core tone that differs. I have a friend with dark blonde hair and his hair is almost as dark as mine but it has a specific blonde color that mine doesn't. We would need more pictures to tell.
+--- 28769777
+cope? cope with what
+u wear your mind on your face
+your bone has no effect on ur apperence, ur skin tone doesn't matter, ur hair doesn't matter
+ur mind is what's fucked up
+how do you cope with a fucked up mind? that's a oxymoron; how do you cope with a predator in your own home
+--- 28769851
+>>28769777
+real
+>>28769507
+no you dont lol
+--- 28769951
+>>28769851
+v real
+--- 28769953
+>>28769951
+who is she..
+--- 28769965
+dear fbi I'm being illegally stalked by my family and 4chan staff send help ty!
+--- 28770001
+>>28768660 (OP)
+Volunteer, just because you think you look ugly does not mean you have to feel ugly. Give to those with less, and become a force for good no matter how small or big. Feed the soul anon, only then will you see true beauty.
+--- 28770941
+Bump
+--- 28771334
+>>28768660 (OP)
+Your skin looks really clear. I like it.
+--- 28771395
+>>28769951
+
+MILF
+--- 28771702
+>>28768660 (OP)
+HighlanderMAXX
+--- 28772115
+Bump
+--- 28772432
+>>28768660 (OP)
+First of all, based nin appreciator.
+Just experiment with your looks, I used to have long hair and once I started working out I cut it because it was annoying as hell, turns out I look much better with shorter hair, also, stop eating sugar/goyslop so your cheeks don't look as puffy.
+Not eating certain products is the easiest thing to do if you don't feel like doing anything about it, either way, I feel like beard could suit you.
+--- 28772441
+>>28768660 (OP)
+have laser hair removal and get on estrogen asap
+--- 28772814
+>>28768682
+I use to be an 8-9. i met my missus and we turned each other into 2/3s over 10 years.
+i was 31 and under-weight with skin problems, and she is obese. 
+
+Now 32 I'm working on myself and i reckon im a 6 with potential of 7.5 due to my bone structure but ill never get my youth back.
+
+doing each thing that anon said will add 1 point to your "attractiveness".
+Calisthenics/Wrights 1 point
+Lighting/Pose/Hair/Sleep/Tan 1 point
+Confidence/Posture 1 point
+Money 1 point.
+so if you're a 4 now you'll be a 7 - 8
+thats how i calculate it if it helps.
+
+reckon you could look like a bad version of Josh Holloway if you put in the effort
+--- 28775498
+>>28768660 (OP)
+I literally can't tell if you're male or female
+--- 28775521
+Are you going to be a ginger brandon?
+What's your name?
+--- 28776307
+>>28775521
+What?
+--- 28776314
+>>28775498
+
+Whew, glad it's not just me.

adv/28769801.txt

@@ -0,0 +1,461 @@
+-----
+--- 28769801
+I jokingly offered my gf a weed gummy today because when she came into the room I was chewing on one and she was acting jokingly offended that I was eating snacks without her. Her mood completely changed when I offered it to her, because "we've talked about this before" and it makes her feel self conscious when I offer her weed because she stopped doing it and feels like I wish she hadn't. Did I really do something wrong here or is she just overreacting??
+
+Truth be told, I am a bit disappointed that she stopped smoking weed with me. I feel like it offered us an opportunity to just put everything aside and hang out, but she says it affects her mental health after talking to a therapist about it. Funnily enough, she didn't talk to the therapist about some of the more fucked up stuff in her life that is probably the real root cause of any anxiety she feels when she gets stoned, but what the fuck do I know?
+--- 28769817
+>>28769801 (OP)
+you're a degenerate faggot
+--- 28769825
+>>28769801 (OP)
+you're a loser
+you're the shitty boyfriend character in someone else's love story
+--- 28769828
+>>28769801 (OP)
+Basically what you're saying is that she was right. You're not gonna convince her to do it with you so just deal with it
+--- 28769853
+you know how sometimes women get a new boyfriend they actually enjoy and think to themselves i can’t believe i was with that loser piece of shit before
+
+you’re the before
+--- 28769856
+>>28769817
+>>28769825
+>>28769828
+Why is it always the anti-weed white knights who show up first? Jesus christ it's fine if you guys don't like it but the sanctimonious bullshit is laughable
+--- 28769866
+>>28769856
+I’m the third guy who replied and I smoke weed. You’re shitty and controlling for not respecting her decision.
+--- 28769870
+>>28769853
+>You're a loser piece of shit for eating a 20mg weed gummy on the weekend!!!!!
+I hope your pastor molests you
+--- 28769878
+kill that whore
+--- 28769881
+>>28769866
+Lol what the fuck? I've respected her decision for two years, it's not like I'm seriously offering her weed knowing that she doesn't want to get stoned. Controlling. Lmao.
+--- 28769891
+>>28769856
+nobody said anything sanctimonious. everyone just read the subtext and came to the same conclusions
+>Funnily enough, she didn't talk to the therapist about some of the more fucked up stuff in her life that is probably the real root cause of any anxiety she feels when she gets stoned
+cunt
+--- 28769903
+>>28769801 (OP)
+>Girlfriend jokes about you eating snacks
+>Boyfriend jokes about giving girlfriend some snacks
+>These snacks are evil though, so you're not allowed to joke about that
+
+Your girl needs to loosen the fuck up. You did nothing wrong by reciprocating her joke.
+--- 28769907
+>>28769870
+you’re a piece of shit for offering someone something they have clearly told you they want nothing to do with
+--- 28769912
+>>28769891
+You are literally being sanctimonious you dumb fag. She admitted outright that she didn't talk to her therapist about some of the stuff that she tries talking to me about but is definitely therapist subject matter. Inb4 "who are you to decide?!" Yeah okay cool it's my job to be a stand-in therapist when she wants to unload about how her mom is manipulative. Get real.
+--- 28769917
+>>28769912
+wow you sound like a really understanding boyfriend
+--- 28769937
+>>28769907
+You do understand the distinction between a joke and serious offer, right? Or are you being dense on purpose?
+
+>>28769903
+Right? It just feels hypocritical. If I were seriously peer pressuring my girlfriend to do drugs then that would be one thing, but I see what I said as in the same ballpark as jokingly asking if she wants to eat something gross that we found in the back of the fridge. The answer is obvious, that's why it's a FUCKING JOKE
+--- 28769947
+>>28769917
+Oh so you unironically think that people should just unload their family/emotional/work/etc baggage onto their partners? What do you think therapists are for? Actually curious
+--- 28770059
+bump
+--- 28770068
+>>28769817
+Fpbp. This guy's a child dating a grown woman
+
+For anyone reading this it's almost always a delabreaker when one relationship member quits a vice but the other has no intention to
+--- 28770069
+>>28769947
+lol you're a fucking trainwreck
+>What do you think therapists are for?
+Wasting your time.
+--- 28770074
+>>28770068
+So you're straightedge right?
+--- 28770083
+>>28770069
+It's an easy question to answer man, what's the deal? Do you or do you not think that it's fine for people to treat their partners as therapists?
+--- 28770105
+>>28770083
+yeah, I do. I think people should talk to people they care about and not offload the responsibility to some stranger you meet an hour a week.
+--- 28770112
+>>28769801 (OP)
+Look OP, maybe she did or didn't talk about the deeper stuff with her therapist but she has figured out that weed makes it worse for her
+
+Weed and alcohol make it worse for anyone to do anything and if she's having a bad time it's not good for her
+I have adhd and can't drink alcohol when I've got a lot of stuff going on because it affects me even up to 3 days after the night of drinking, so it's not worth it
+
+Ask yourself why YOU think you need the weed to "just put everything aside and hang out" lmao you nonce
+--- 28770118
+>>28769801 (OP)
+>haha you want this weed gummy? jk jk
+>…unless?
+I have to agree with the other anons. That was not a good “joke” and your gf explicitly told you not to do that and you did it anyways.
+--- 28770124
+>>28770105
+The entire point of talking to a therapist is that they're hopefully a professionally trained and unbiased ear, as opposed to your highly biased family members and friends who tend to be awful therapists
+--- 28770159
+>>28770118
+Why even put joke in quotes? Like I'm lying or some shit? "Don't make jokes" is about as controlling as it gets
+
+>>28770112
+>why YOU think you need the weed
+It's not a need, it's a want. Smoking weed and cooking a delicious meal is amazing. Why do anything that feels good?? I just don't understand this mindset, no one is giving you points for being straightedge
+--- 28770180
+>>28770124
+you have no idea what you're talking about
+--- 28770192
+>It's totally fine for your girlfriend to unload heavy emotional baggage onto you instead of someone who is literally trained to do talk to her about it, and you're a controlling cunt if you don't want to therapize the person you signed up to be in a romantic relationship with!
+Jesus fucking christ this board BLOWS
+--- 28770203
+>>28770159
+Because it wasn’t very funny and you clearly actually do want her to smoke weed with you again. It’s not a joke, it’s just dressed up like one.
+--- 28770211
+>>28770203
+Do you even realize that you're gaslighting? A joke is a joke, the entire intention behind the action is entirely different than, say, actually offering something to someone. How can you say it wasn't funny?? Context is everything and she was literally making a similarly absurd joke at the same time. Postmodernism was a fucking mistake.
+--- 28770214
+>>28770192
+>bro, they're LITERALLY trained in talking about things
+wow that's impressive
+--- 28770221
+>>28769937
+>Right? It just feels hypocritical.
+I mean, it sounds like you were already aware of her issues with weed, so you probably could've been more sensitive about it. That said, yeah, her getting all pissy about it is an issue with her, not you.
+--- 28770228
+>>28769801 (OP)
+>Wahhh why won't my gf do drugs with me???
+--- 28770244
+>>28770221
+>her getting all pissy about it is an issue with her, not you
+Is there anything at all that I can say to her about that without her taking it the wrong way? 
+
+>>28770228
+So you're straightedge, right?
+--- 28770293
+>>28769856
+Your brain never developed properly
+--- 28770303
+>>28770293
+So you're straightedge, right?
+--- 28770315
+>>28769881
+You sound like a narcissist. Read your posts in this thread. You're acting like an asshole because we don't agree with you. We're not your girlfriend, faggot. Normal people don't fold immediately when a piece of shit like you starts with his little passive-aggressive monologues. One'd have to be retarded, autistic, or a woman to not see right through you.
+--- 28770320
+>>28770244
+>Is there anything at all that I can say to her about that without her taking it the wrong way?
+Obviously I don't know your situation, but if I was you, I'd try to find out how she feels about your weed use. I'm thinking it might be an issue for her even if incidents like you described never happen. Like, imagine if it was alcohol or cigarettes. Being around those things when you're trying to stay away from them can be frustrating.
+
+It's one of those give/take things. If she is truly fine with being around weed, she needs to accept that things like this are occasionally going to happen and make an effort not to go off the rails about it. If she isn't fine with it, you'll need to work out how to address that.
+--- 28770323
+>>28770315
+Lol a lot of the disagreement in here starts from the absurd standpoint of "if you casually smoke weed you're a degenerate drug user". I can't take any advice seriously when that's where it comes from. One'd have to be 14, straightedge, religious or all of the above to be so retarded.
+--- 28770338
+>>28770244
+>So you're straightedge, right?
+All i do is drink occasionally and won't bitch if the girl im with doesn't drink
+--- 28770682
+>>28770159
+If it's a want then stop right now for 10 days just to prove to yourself that you don't need it
+
+Surely you can right?
+Surely you would not feel deprived in any way, correct? 
+You could easily go 10 days without eating say ice cream, because it's just a harmless additional pleasure riiiight? 
+
+your inevitable response:
+>b-buh-but w-why would I? 
+>I'm having such a great time that it would only decrease my sum total of lifetime happiness to not suck on a burning leaf tonight!!! 
+
+>Inb4 you call me yet another 'straightedge' without knowing my background lmao
+--- 28770691
+>>28769856
+Every single one of you potheads acts the same way whenever anyone isn't completely positive towards your dipshit lettuce.
+--- 28770725
+>>28769801 (OP)
+Quit smoking weed so that she's not constantly reminded about smoking weed, then go do other fun stuff with her that doesn't involve weed... but could! Eventually, she'll want to smoke weed, and voila, you'll just so happen to have a few vacuum sealed joints on you or in your car "just in case."
+
+Quitting weed for a while will also help you, for real, at the very least diminish your tolerance enough to make a dimebag stretch as far as an eighth.
+
+>t. 47 yo literally smoking weed rn in ct while my ny gf never smokes weed and won't let me smoke weed in her ues apt wtf so fuck it i left manhattan and am sitting in connecticut waiting for my bmw convertible to charge so that it can be moved out of where the roofers are going to place the dumpster #firstworld
+--- 28771858
+>>28770682
+Jesus christ dude project your insane bullshit onto someone else. I regularly take breaks and have absolutely zero issues. You need to get out into the real world and talk to people man. 
+
+>>28770725
+My tolerance is already pretty low, I feel like I've tried to cut it back to the point where it shouldn't bother a reasonable person but here we are. Part of me is worried that if I stop she's going to think it's because she successfully nagged me enough, and then I'm going to be sober with her nagging me even more.
+--- 28771890
+>>28769801 (OP)
+>she stopped doing it and feels like I wish she hadn't
+>Truth be told, I am a bit disappointed that she stopped smoking weed with me
+I mean, seems like she was right on the money then.
+Just because it relaxes you, doesn't mean it has the same affect on her, let her be.
+Not trying to be mean, but essentially what you're saying is that you wish your gf would dredge up whatever fucked up shit there is in her closet and deal with it in therapy for however many years that takes just so you can maybe get your bong buddy back. Even if weed isn't the root cause for her anxiety, the fact is that it currently exacerbates it.
+
+>>28769881
+>it's not like I'm seriously offering her weed
+But you are offering it, knowing that even if it's a joke it upsets her.
+If my mother was murdered, I'm certainly not gonna take jokes about bumping off my father to match as a serious threat, but I'll damn sure be upset.
+Maybe this is the first time it's upset her as a joke, in which case, fair enough to be taken aback. But now that you know where she stands on it, it'd be poor form to not modify your behaviour in kind.
+
+>>28771858
+>Part of me is worried that if I stop she's going to think it's because she successfully nagged me enough, and then I'm going to be sober with her nagging me even more.
+...Do you even like this girl?
+--- 28771937
+>>28771890
+>you wish your gf would dredge up whatever fucked up shit there is in her closet and deal with it in therapy
+Yes but not specifically because I want to smoke weed with her. She has some pretty deep seated issues with family and past relationships, and I see it having a tangible effect on her everyday life and our relationship. She was going to therapy for a while and I was genuinely surprised when she said that she hadn't talked to her therapist about some of the harder stuff but simultaneously felt like she was running out of things to talk about in therapy. 
+
+>If my mother was murdered
+I mean, pretty extreme example, no? "No I don't have any secret snacks in here but do you wanna take one of these low-dose edibles lol" is not the same thing, is it? If I try to put myself in her shoes, all I can imagine is saying something like "lol that is NOT the snack I want right now" and possibly even using it to say something like "but you're lookin like a snack right now bb". Is that too much to ask for?
+
+>Do you even like this girl?
+Yeah I love her a lot, that's why this stuff is so disappointing to me. I feel like I'm basically the exact same person that I was when we met, meanwhile she's changed a couple more major things about herself and has gotten into the habit of acting like practically everything I do is annoying
+--- 28771995
+>>28771937
+>I mean, pretty extreme example, no?
+Absolutely, just to illustrate the point. Offering an edible may seem totally harmless to you, otherwise you wouldn't have done it, but clearly it has a sharp emotional impact on her. The fact that you struggle to see this situation from her perspective is exactly why I gave an example that almost anyone would agree would be hurtful, to help you get past how harmless your intent was and how harmless it seems on the surface and connect directly to the fact that she felt hurt by what you said. And regardless of how rational it is, it'd be kind to just respect her feelings, move past it avoid the same kind of joke in the future.
+
+> I feel like I'm basically the exact same person that I was when we met, meanwhile she's changed
+Therapy will do that to someone, anon, and it sounds like it has a heck of a long way to go, so you can probably expect more changes where that came from.
+
+>acting like practically everything I do is annoying
+It's sad to confront, but you two could just be drifting apart, and it's hard to avoid if the changes she's making are in order to better her mental health.
+--- 28772180
+>>28769801 (OP)
+OP, you need to grow the fuck up. Its clear the "joke" has some truth behind the fact you are upset about her stopping. Respect her decision faggot.
+--- 28772253
+>>28772180
+Respecting someone's decision is not mutually exclusive with making a joke about it
+
+>>28771995
+I don't feel like I struggle to see it from her position, though; I understand that she developed a negative association with smoking weed during the pandemic when she was cooped up inside 24/7 for over a year and had deep anxieties about her career and family life, and then her therapist suggested that weed was the source of her anxieties so she took the offramp and never actually addressed those underlying causes with the therapist. Of course I don't want her to do a drug that makes her feel bad, but that whole situation bothers me.
+
+>it's hard to avoid if the changes she's making are in order to better her mental health.
+Am I supposed to address that with her? Because I feel like our relationship doesn't need to blow up for her to feel better
+--- 28772408
+>>28772253
+>I don't feel like I struggle to see it from her position, though
+None of what you've said is from her position though, it's armchair analysis from afar, and in what seems to be direct opposition to what she's telling you. You don't know her life better than she does. I don't doubt that there's probably more work she could be doing, but this could be an important stepping stone for her, and her approach to therapy is simply not your call.
+Also consider the possibility that, while she might not be telling her therapist everything, she might not be telling you everything either. Whether through direct omission, or simply due to an inability to articulate what's been discussed in therapy, and to explain why she's doing what she's doing in a way that makes sense to you. If her telling you that she's upset about a silly joke has ignited this much rumination from you rather than just being a case of "oh, sorry babe, I didn't mean anything by it," it's possible you're not the easiest person to have vulnerable conversations with.
+
+>Because I feel like our relationship doesn't need to blow up for her to feel better
+I'm not trying to chide you, because this is a daunting thing to even contemplate, but I feel like you're pretty consistently prioritising the relationship and who she used to be over her mental health and who she might become. Like you're looking for loopholes that ensure you guys can have your cake and eat it too.
+I can't tell you whether things will work out, but I think you'll have a better chance if you can avoid presenting yourself as an obstacle between her and what she thinks she needs. In a way it's the old "if you love something, set it free," but it's more about being willing to hear her and work with her, and hopefully carve a place for yourself in where she hopes to go. You're digging your heels in and staying put while she's walking further away. Maybe one of you will go with the other in the end, or maybe this is where you part ways.
+--- 28772415
+>>28769801 (OP)
+It's really not up to you to decide whether or not your gf should have a sense of humour about a sensitive topic for her, you faggot. It sounds like she has serious issues with weed now, and you don't really seem to understand that about her. Which makes you the asshole everyone ITT is calling you. She deserves better lmao. 
+
+You made your girlfriend upset over a joke you were better off not making, but did anyway, and now you're the one playing victim. You should get off the weed too. Faggot.
+--- 28772527
+>>28772408
+>If her telling you that she's upset about a silly joke has ignited this much rumination from you
+It's hard to relate the exact situation over text, but the part where it becomes a problem for me is when she acts like she's laughing it off in the moment but then 30 minutes later when we sit down for dinner she wants to chastise me about it. She knows it's a joke, she knows that I know that we've talked about it and that I'm genuinely not an asshole and I only want the best for her, but she still finds the energy to sit me down and say "ugh we've talked about this so many times and you still make jokes!"
+
+>you're pretty consistently prioritising the relationship and who she used to be over her mental health and who she might become
+Yeah I think that's a good point. I feel like a lot of men share in that experience though, where they invest an incredible amount of time and effort into a relationship only to get broken up with years later because the woman wants to ~find herself~. I dunno man, I just think when you mutually enter into a relationship like this you both have a responsibility to maintain your attraction to the other, and more often it seems like women have a hard time placing the relationship as a priority over their perceived personal growth.
+--- 28772592
+disclaimer, this is a stonerpost; i feel like most anons saw the weed thing and immediately went "lol loser" because they're little pussyfaggots. that being said:
+>Truth be told, I am a bit disappointed that she stopped smoking weed with me. I feel like it offered us an opportunity to just put everything aside and hang out, but she says it affects her mental health after talking to a therapist about it.
+no, do not fucking do this. if she says she doesn't want drugs and is serious, don't push it. i've noticed that people have varied reactions to weed and if it does not sit well with them then it likely never will.
+>Funnily enough, she didn't talk to the therapist about some of the more fucked up stuff in her life that is probably the real root cause of any anxiety she feels when she gets stoned, but what the fuck do I know?
+you very well may be right, i know some friends that are likely in a similar boat. however, that is for them to figure out and you to leave alone. if it causes other issues in your relationship then you may want to reconsider your compatibility
+--- 28772617
+>>28772592
+I genuinely, 100% from the bottom of my heart do not want to pressure her to do drugs that she doesn't enjoy. I've known many people who don't enjoy weed [who all seem to have underlying anxieties that they refuse to deal with] but understand it and don't push the subject. It just makes me a bit sad at the end of the day, because I remember us sitting together and smoking and laughing and having a great time not so long ago. I also worry about her projecting her negative feelings about weed onto me, even though I haven't changed anything since she met me and fell in love.
+--- 28772662
+>>28769801 (OP)
+everybody can do what they want but weed is for lazy niggers and your gf is based.
+--- 28772874
+>>28772527
+Anon. Buddy. Why has this even come up more than once? If you know you've talked about it, why are you still saying things that piss her off? Why is it her job to get over it, and not your job to quit making the same mistake?
+If you're frustrated being repeatedly told, do you not think she's also frustrated in repeatedly telling?
+
+As for her laughing it off in the moment, like I said, you don't sound like the easiest person to talk to, especially considering what you've just said here. It probably puts her off and takes her a while to gather the strength.
+It's also not necessarily a bad thing for someone to take a beat to cool down, assess how they feel, and decide whether something's actually worth bringing up or whether it's their own problem. Better than speaking rashly while emotions are hot. If she's taken the time to decide this is worth discussing, maybe you should take it as an indication of how much it matters to her. And if the delayed response bothers you, maybe you should ask yourself what you can do to make her feel more capable of addressing it in the moment.
+
+>I just think when you mutually enter into a relationship like this you both have a responsibility to maintain your attraction to the other
+So... what? People are supposed to get together once and then never change? And you say it's mutual, but it sounds like you just want her to stay stagnant with you, while being unwilling to grow with her.
+Drifting apart is one thing, but if all your girlfriends outgrow you, that sounds like a big you problem.
+
+>placing the relationship as a priority over their perceived personal growth.
+>implying this is a bad thing
+Anon, change is a part of life. You don't get to just win someone over at one point in your lives and then everything comfortably stays the same until you both die.
+
+Sorry if that's blunt, but I've gotta head off. Good luck to you both. Know when to fold em, my dude.
+--- 28772992
+>>28772874
+>Why has this even come up more than once?
+>Why is it her job to get over it, and not your job to quit making the same mistake?
+Because it's a fucking JOKE! Humor! Levity! An opportunity to make light of a situation instead of constantly being negative about it! Fuck man I genuinely don't get it, if people literally cannot understand the difference between humor and peer pressure then I don't know what to do.
+
+> take a beat to cool down, assess how they feel, and decide whether something's actually worth bringing up or whether it's their own problem
+Sure, I generally would agree, except with her it seems like EVERY time it's not her problem and it's worth dragging down an otherwise completely fine day just to get on me about it. It just feels like the bar is so incredibly low for what constitutes "offensive", meanwhile other people are in long term relationships where they scream at each other and get into physical altercations.
+
+>if all your girlfriends outgrow you, that sounds like a big you problem
+That is borderline gaslighting. Which is more likely? Modern western women are completely fucked in the head after decades of irrational feminist logic getting pushed into their faces, or I'm the most annoying guy in the world? I'm not trying to say that I'm without my own issues, but this seems like a common refrain among adult men in the western world.
+--- 28772999
+>>28769856
+Bro grow up if your girl doesnt want to smoke anymore its her choice. If thats a dealbreaker for you then you guys arent compatible anymore. Dont be a bitch and peer pressure someone to do drugs thats the lamest shit ever
+--- 28773028
+>>28772999
+1. It's not a dealbreaker
+2. I don't peer pressure her
+
+Read the fucking thread
+--- 28773062
+>>28769801 (OP)
+your gf is right
+
+drugs are stupid, and if she quit repect that decision
+--- 28773071
+>>28772992
+>Because it's a fucking JOKE!
+The point of a joke is to make someone laugh. If she's not laughing, stop fucking saying it.
+
+>That is borderline gaslighting. Which is more likely? Modern western women are completely fucked in the head after decades of irrational feminist logic getting pushed into their faces, or I'm the most annoying guy in the world?
+At some point you have to be joking, anon.
+--- 28773081
+>>28773028
+>it's not a dealbreaker
+>cries his eyes out on an anonymous forum because his girlfriend didn't appreciate his amazing sense of humour
+Just fucking apologize to her you fucking retard. You sound like you don't respect her point of view at all. Weed is not a harmless drug and that's coming from someone who smoked regularly for 5 years straight.
+--- 28773280
+>>28773081
+>weed is not a harmless drug
+>humour
+Limp wristed Bong detected. Or worse, Canadian.
+
+>>28773071
+Even if someone doesn't laugh at the joke, that doesn't change the fact that the entire intention was to be playful, unserious and lighthearted. Getting legitimately upset when you know full well that someone is joking is a dick move. 
+
+>At some point you have to be joking
+About what?? Western women being fucked up? I don't think that's really such a controversial opinion
+--- 28773301
+>>28773280
+>the entire intention was to be playful, unserious and lighthearted
+not when you've been told multiple times that it's upsetting
+--- 28773337
+>>28773280
+>Limp wristed Bong detected. Or worse, Canadian.
+Wrong. And by the way you're responding to any minor suggestion that you *might* be even the slightest in the wrong I'm detecting that you are a burnout loser with no perspective and deserve to be dumped. Get your head out of your ass.
+--- 28773338
+>>28770124
+Your girlfriend doesn’t want you to fix her or give her solutions to her problems, she just wants you to listen and understand. You’re obviously not there for her emotionally if you can’t even grasp this. Offering the edible is just confirmation for her that you don’t listen. She’s probably emotionally detaching right now and you’re too dumb and blind to see it. Don’t be surprised if she leaves you. You don’t deserve her.
+--- 28773377
+>>28773337
+So you just spell humor like that....why?
+
+>>28773338
+>she just wants you to listen and understand
+Yeah of course, but there's a fine line between "I have some stuff I want to talk out" and outright dumping your baggage on the person closest to you. I legitimately do not think your bf/gf/wife/husband is the person to talk through your mommy or daddy issues with, or why your ex was the worst, or any other topic where something you say can be misconstrued as "taking sides" or insulting their family.
+--- 28773398
+>>28770124
+but you keep shitting on her highly trained therapist's one bit of advice because it's harshing your buzz
+--- 28773422
+>>28773377
+Why don’t you ask her then, instead of coming here and bitching? Probably because you’re terrible at communicating with her. When my wife wants to talk to me, I always ask her if she’s looking for answers, wants me to just listen (actively), or needs to vomit her words out. I feel honored and privileged that she chooses to talk to me about things in her life because I love and care about her.
+
+You sure you want to be with your girlfriend?
+--- 28773432
+>>28769801 (OP)
+Yep that was rude. I'm high pretty much all the time I'm awake and I know not to do that.
+--- 28773435
+>>28773398
+Yeah because I think the therapist gave well-meaning advice without all the necessary information. When I hear that someone has a hard time with anxiety when they smoke a little weed, I can only wonder about deeper issues that they aren't addressing. What are you getting anxious about when you smoke? Are you thinking about all the fucked up family and relationship shit that you haven't ever talked through with anyone? It just doesn't seem like that far of a leap to me
+--- 28773440
+>>28773280
+>Getting legitimately upset when you know full well that someone is joking is a dick move
+
+You should have learned by middle school that the butt of the joke gets to determine whether it's funny or not. Not the person who made the joke. How did you miss that lesson?
+--- 28773518
+>>28773435
+>Yeah because I think the therapist gave well-meaning advice without all the necessary information.
+you think therapists don't have training in patients lying and withholding information?
+
+>When I hear that someone has a hard time with anxiety when they smoke a little weed, I can only wonder about deeper issues that they aren't addressing.
+the therapist knows she smokes, but doesn't automatically come to this conclusion (or more likely is working on those issues separately while cutting down on a habit that exacerbates anxiety symptoms in the meantime).
+you straight up think this therapist is just an idiot who didn't think of that and you're smarter than her. and at the same time you're here resenting being "treated like a therapist" (which you're not, for the record, you're just being treated like a bf who's supposed to give a shit about their partner's life, but you can't even manage "please stop joking about me smoking weed" so i'm not surprised you can't handle actual emotional support)
+
+i'd need a therapist after dealing with you too, what a cunt
+--- 28773791
+>>28773377
+You best be under 22 years old because this behaviour is going to make you very fucking lonely very quick. Remember that.
+--- 28774020
+I legitimately cannot believe that the advice board thinks that you should be dumping your baggage on your partner. That would have been anti-advice like ten years ago. What the fuck happened. 
+
+Also weed used to be cool too, what happened there? Are zoomers really just Republicans in disguise? Do they know?
+--- 28774131
+You’re hung up on the weed aspect when it’s actually about the disrespect you give your girlfriend. You’re gonna learn the hard way.
+--- 28774166
+>>28774020
+Dumping your baggage and being able to open up to your SO are two different things retard. Why do you even want to be in a relationship anyways? You sound way too immature for it.
+--- 28774180
+>>28774131
+Yeah okay, I'm being disrespectful because I told a stupid joke and don't think I'm the best person for her to lean on regarding her family issues. Great advice.
+--- 28774203
+>>28774166
+So you've been privy to the conversations we've had, right? So you know how she's totally not just endlessly piling on really heavy shit about her issues with her mom and dad and ex boyfriend and pretty much doesn't leave any room for me to even say anything, right? And how it's totally not just the same stuff over and over and over again to the point where anyone reasonable might ask "why don't you maybe talk to a therapist about this?", right? Like I said many posts ago, sanctimonious bullshit. I can love and respect her deeply and also think she might need to address her more serious issues with a professional.
+--- 28774298
+I'll take your gf OP, sounds like you dont want her anymore conisdering how much you disrespect her.
+--- 28774386
+>>28774203
+Whoah dude why are you dumping all your whiny baggage on me? I don't need to hear all that. Sounds like the kind of bullshit you might need to tell your girlfriend if you plan on saving your garbo relationship.
+--- 28774438
+Get a load of this fucking samefag
+--- 28774916
+>>28774180
+When both everyone on here and your girlfriend are the problem, but you’re not, I wonder what the real issue could be. I’m gonna be real with you: You need to get your head out of your ass and grow the fuck up. I know you won’t listen to me because you think you’re right and haven’t done anything wrong.
+
+Honestly, you sound like a selfish, entitled asshole. When your girl inevitably leaves you and you end up coming here to cry about how unfairly she treated you and how much of a good guy you are, don’t expect any sympathy.
+--- 28775093
+You should realize you're the issue when the entire fucking thread is telling you that you're the issue
+Get a grip
+--- 28775208
+>>28774916
+>>28775093
+Hey fags we talked it out and she reiterated that she's 100% fine with me smoking weed and she overreacted to my stupid joke. Lick my fucking balls.
+--- 28775227
+>>28775208
+Cool man, see you in a few weeks after she has dumped you.
+--- 28775301
+>>28775208
+Lmao
+Seconding what the other anon said, she's only saying that so you won't sperg out at her
+She definitely noticed that you behaved differently and reacted accordingly
+--- 28775314
+>>28775301
+>>28775227
+You guys project some extremely bizarre shit onto strangers on the internet
+--- 28775342
+>>28775314
+When she stops coming to you for her emotional needs and the sex becomes nonexistent, remember this: You were warned. You had every opportunity to better yourself and grow as an individual. You’re gonna miss her “trauma dumping” on you.
+
+Remember that.
+--- 28775360
+>>28775342
+Why even put trauma dumping in quotes? Like I'm lying about it happening? Fucking A man that is retarded lmao
+--- 28775370
+>>28775360
+I just personally don’t like the term.
+--- 28775378
+>>28775370
+So how do you feel about the concept of someone using their partner as their therapist? I feel like the answer to this question reveals whether or not someone is 25 or younger and how long their longest relationship has been.
+--- 28775473
+>>28775378
+Depends. If all they can truly talk about is trauma and their partner doesn’t get any emotional support, they very obviously need to see a therapist. However, if the one partner can’t communicate to the traumatized partner that their needs aren’t being met and they feel like they’re ring used as an emotional blanket, then both need therapy for different reasons. It sounds like an unhealthy relationship either way.
+--- 28775483
+>>28775473
+ring = being
+--- 28775506
+>>28769817
+>>28769825
+>>28769907
+This. Your gf should dump you and find someone who is not as big of a loser as you are. You are a bad influence on her mental and physical health. Kys.
+--- 28775617
+The anti-weed attitude in here is fucking GAY. Bunch of fucking closet republicans.

adv/28770031.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770031
+>thought he was a good guy from the engineering department who is already dating someone
+>turns out he is this ghetto ass dude full of tattoos who doesn't even go to the college.
+>GF says the engineer is the one whose house it is.
+>she said he tried to get her alone several times but only her friend stopped it.
+>he invited her to hang out with his friends and she STILL agreed to go with him after all that.
+
+any way to stop your GF having male 'friends' like that?
+--- 28770039
+>>28770031 (OP)
+BTW she told him no but I had to convince her all night.She won't block his text message. This dude is trashy as hell.
+--- 28770046
+>>28770031 (OP)
+Leave, if you are on 4chan posting this shit asking for advice your girl is smoking crack and gangbanged by dudes who would probably kill you.
+--- 28770056
+>>28770046
+She is actually a good girl though, she doesn't smoke weed, has a good family, and doesn't cuss.
+--- 28770086
+>>28770031 (OP)
+She doesn't respect you. Cut her off.
+--- 28770098
+She's stupid as shit. Tell her that the ghetto dude just wanted up in her guts, and that losers just drag other people down with them. This is a father daughter conversation she apparently never had.
+--- 28770117
+Reminds me of living near university of Texas. Frat and sorority parties would constantly get robbed by hood people who showed up to drink free booze and steal shit. All the feats and sororities have private armed security now. Ghetto mutts and bogs have radar about this stuff.
+--- 28771862
+>>28770031 (OP)
+tell her you won't care if she cheats, and that you're done with her.
+--- 28771886
+>>28770056
+> ShEs A GoOd GiRl
+So what you mean is "sheltered" and finally ready to rebel against her parents. Stop being a cuck and listen to yourself. Bad boys are like a drug to women. If she suddenly gets unhappy or distant and wants to break up, you'll know what's going on. Hit the gym NOW bro, there's not much you can do about this- Women will literally throw away a guy even if he's the best thing that ever happened to them just to live in the moment.
+
+Old saying- She's not yours, it was just your turn.
+--- 28771914
+>>28770031 (OP)
+>but I had to convince her all night
+If you have to beg, cajole, convince you gf not to go off with a guy like this she's checked out already. Oh and he's not a friend and she knows it, only you won't admit that.
+--- 28771953
+>>28770031 (OP)
+
+realistically you just have to pretend like its not a big deal. Getting upset about it will just make her want him more. unless she is doing this to piss you off, then you're better off without her because she'll always be doing something to get a rise for her own entertainment. 
+
+If she does it a few more times, I'd break up with her in a calm way. Like "hey, I dont think this is working out." and if she wants to talk about it say something like "I'm not going to tell you what to do, but you keep hanging out with people that look like they only want to hang out so they can hook up. We want different things right now. So we should probably break up." And if she gets all defensive with shit like "I can't believe you'd make me pick between you and my friends" say something like "I'm not. I never said you had to stop being his friend. He can come hang out with both of us. We could go grocery shopping or see a movie together or going hiking or something. But I'm uncomfortable with you being alone with these people because it looks like a hookup. Like what if one of them makes a move on you? I'm not even around to help you. Is your friend going to fend this guy off if he gets drunk or something?" 
+
+If she respects you, and really is a good girl, she won't have any problem including you and hanging out as a group. If he is on the up and up, he won't have a problem including you either. I've got women friends too, and I don't give a shit if their SO is around. Why would I? I'm not trying to fuck them. 
+
+If they are trying to fuck, they'll have a problem with you around and things will fall apart. If they're both on the up and up, they'll be cool with inviting you. If they're not up to anything, why would they care?
+--- 28772044
+>>28771953
+No one should have to work this hard to keep another mans dick out of their gf when their gf won't help. If a guy is a friend the gf suggest the introduction, if she doesn't she knows he's not a friend. The gf is an adult and knows what is best to preserve the relationship and doesn't need to be reminded or tested. Her choice so if she wants another guy in her circle, not a friend, it is a bf's choice to break up because of it. No grey area or second, third chances but she chooses.
+--- 28774541
+>>28770039
+> but I had to convince her all night
+Dude… you had to badger her to not hang out with another dude ALL NIGHT? How retarded can you be?
+
+It’s fucking over. Just break up with this whore. she clearly has some attraction to this wigger to the point where she needs convincing all fucking night from her own boyfriend to not go see him lol. dont be a cuckhold
+--- 28775398
+>>28770031 (OP)
+>any way to stop your GF having male 'friends' like that?
+
+There's no way to stop it, just like how she has no way of stopping you from making female 'friends' like that.
+
+Relationships are built on trust that your partner will stick around because you know both of you are good for each other, not because either is forcing the other to stay. Trying to control who she gets to talk to or hang out with will only push her away further.
+
+Let her go dude
+--- 28775668
+>>28775398
+It doesn't matter how much you think you trust your partner because cheating is extremely common and they can find any excuse for it, which won't even be necessary if they stick to hiding it. That's why if you can't be strictly celibate the best you can hope for is fucking casually. It's more honest and you don't have to feel bad about expecting monogamy.
+--- 28775676
+>>28775668
+Assume all women are whores and none of them will every disappoint you.
+--- 28775738
+>>28775676
+Basically yeah, assuming otherwise puts too much pressure on them.
+--- 28775930
+You cant stop her. You can just tell her how you feel about, and the react to what she does. 
+
+Probably she is interested in this guy; worst case scenario she will cheat; in the best case, she'll probably hang around this dude, without cheating only because she doesnt want to hurt your relationships. 
+Even if she said no this time, there will be another one, whether you know it or not. 
+
+a similar story happened to me
+--- 28775957
+>>28771953
+>Invite the ghetto wigger to be part of your friend circle
+Did you even read the OP? OP's gf is a retarded whore, she wants to go hang out with a group of shady men ALONE after a party where everyone was drinking alcohol and probably doing drugs. Even with the most honest intentions of "wanting to be friends," she is putting herself at a high risk of being raped. OP needs to completely break it off with her, normal women have the common sense not to make such terrible decisions.
+--- 28776275
+>>28770031 (OP)
+>those tattoos
+She looks like she has terminal leprosy or something
+--- 28776436
+>>28770031 (OP)
+>>28770039
+>and she STILL agreed to go with him after all that
+>I had to convince her all night
+>She won't block his text message
+Fucking hell, either this is bait or you're absolutely dumb
+Just take the hint and the advice from pretty much all replies here - LEAVE, any reasonable person wouldn't behave like that
+She won't say no to this dude, eventually he will drug her and he will absolutely ravage her pussy while you're at home fapping and shitposting

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+-----
+--- 28770136
+So i am supposed to accept that women are equal to men while also that they need to be told what to do, provided for, protected, and emotionally supported while I do not get the same support? Is there any reconciling this? Not complaining just confused as to how normies just pretend this isn't the case.
+--- 28770148
+Equal means same. If you think there is no difference between a penis and a vagina then you are gay. Basically, you are a faggot OP.
+--- 28770191
+That guy is a crack/methead and looks sick as shit. maybe has aids or monkeypox. That photo is from a craigslist porno shoot
+--- 28770194
+>>28770136 (OP)
+Think about all of the crazy things that humans have believed throughout history with no evidence. Feminism is just the modern version of that.
+
+Men and women are not equal or the same, and if you're autistic enough you can see that, but most people think in social and emotional terms that clouds their thought.
+--- 28770419
+>>28770136 (OP)
+As a single woman, I get absolutely none of that from any men. I support myself in every way and can only depend on myself. Where does this bullshit thinking come from? Sounds like you spend too much time reading tradwife blogs
+--- 28770504
+>>28770136 (OP)
+the successful organism adapts to its environment. the unsuccessful one doesn't, or perhaps bitches and complains about the environment.
+--- 28770610
+women aren't good at anything but social skills & sex
+they're useless outside of that, and they get good at it to get provided for, which men are more than happy to do
+--- 28770624
+>>28770136 (OP)
+The greatest folly incels ever made was simply believing what society repeats about feminism 
+Women do not care if your beliefs are directly contradictory to their self professed "feminism" as long as you identify with the name feminism 
+They just want the signal, that's all they care about and that's probably how it always was
+
+For instance, it's fairly easy to convince a woman of the necessity and value of female-only hierarchies, female organizations and social networks, matriarchies of older women regulating the behavior of younger women, even female exclusive spirituality and segregation from male spaces, as long as these things are all advocated for under the name of being "for women"
+Which is true, because these things are good for women, and basically consistent with gender roles throughout tradition and history, but they fly in the face of actual feminist doctrine if one chooses to actually think feminist fundamentals through to their logical conclusions 
+But that's ok because women do not give a fuck about all that, that's malebrained shit, they just want assurance from you that you're not a bitter incel at heart and don't hate women
+--- 28770641
+>>28770191
+And yet he still has a bad bitch on his dick
+--- 28770650
+>>28770610
+They’re good at social skills, but they do not make the first move on men, ever. 
+I don’t know…
+--- 28770655
+This pedantic pretending to misunderstand "women's equality" implies total intrinsic identicalness is retarded. It's exactly the same as free software guys tediously explaining the difference between gratis and libre. Yes, language is not a perfect game, we get it, you had to read Wittgenstein for your intro philosophy class. Stop pretending you don't know what people mean
+--- 28770667
+>>28770610
+>single women, lesbians, and asexuals don't exist
+--- 28770676
+>>28770650
+Chads get approached first by women all the time, literally throwing sex at them without Chad having to make any effort
+--- 28770685
+>>28770650
+women make the move making you think that you made it
+that's how good they are at social skills
+--- 28770689
+>>28770667
+broken by men
+--- 28770701
+>>28770676
+stop baiting repeats; but for the sake of onlookers: chad doesn't exist, he's made up by women to scare men into submission -- all guys suck at social skills and everyone has to play the same game
+rich, tall, broke, short; everyone plays the same game and gets the same result: a woman who controls him.
+--- 28770705
+>>28770676
+I’m not a Chad by any means, but I’ve had a friend who wanted to fuck. Her way of expressing that she wanted to fuck was to sit on the bed and say nothing. Women are absolutely dog shit at social skills.
+--- 28770709
+>>28770419
+Ah, yes. The "I don't do X thing that a lot of women do, so that means no women do it at all, and you're just an incel" retort. A timeless classic.
+--- 28770719
+>>28770685
+That speaks to a woman”s greater intrinsic value which is mistaken for social skills. Women don’t do anything special to make connections. They don’t have the social abilities of a seasoned standup comedian. They just exist and people treat them better for it…
+--- 28770728
+>>28770667
+I'm actually pretty convinced that single women actually don't exist
+--- 28770738
+>>28770719
+>They just exist and people treat them better for it…
+Which is reinforced by the kind of relationship advice they give. "Just be nice and eventually a woman will notice you and appreciate that." They honestly think that's good advice because that's all a woman has to do in order to get inundated with male attention. Just exist, and don't be a total cunt, and dudes will throw themselves at you left and right. They literally can't process the fact that some people AREN'T rewarded for just existing.
+--- 28770742
+>>28770136 (OP)
+No, there is no reconciling anything. You just do it.
+The world doesn't need you to understand or accept anything, it just wants you to obey.
+--- 28770747
+>>28770709
+I mean what do you consider "a lot"? Stats show 75% of women work full time.
+--- 28770748
+>>28770719
+it's something you can't see
+it's abstract
+it's the power of women, the invisible world is under their control
+--- 28770756
+>>28770136 (OP)
+>So i am supposed to accept that women are equal to men
+Yes
+
+>while also that they need to be told what to do, provided for, protected
+Fuck no
+
+>and emotionally supported
+What's this mean?
+
+>>28770419
+>I support myself in every way and can only depend on myself.
+>can only depend on myself.
+Oof, come on sweetheart, you can depend on me, so you're wrong on this one for sure
+
+>>28770748
+The fuck are you yapping about? "There's a lot of power in that thing between their legs." That's what my dad would always say, and it's as simple as that. No "abstract" or "something you can't see" bullshit to it. I can see it just fine. In fact, I'd let her pee in my face if she let me keep one eye open to see where it came from..
+--- 28770758
+>>28770748
+I can see it, alright.
+--- 28770764
+>>28770756
+women are basically jedi & sith, and their allegiance depends on the state of their heart
+--- 28770768
+>>28770748
+>>28770758
+That girl looks underage ...
+--- 28770772
+>>28770768
+She’s clearly at work, so… Unlikely.
+--- 28770773
+>>28770768
+Barely. Either way she's not a child.
+--- 28770775
+print screen that and show it to the people i absolutely care what think about me
+you're fucking stupid and will die horribly
+--- 28770778
+>>28770772
+Could be 16-17 not that it matters. 16-17 year olds aren't children. Puberty already happened.
+--- 28770790
+permaban me
+i can feel it in your blood
+it's boiling, ur figured out, ur so fucked it's unreal
+--- 28770791
+>>28770764
+>women are basically jedi & sith, and their allegiance depends on the state of their heart
+Well that's true for all of us, of course, but I will admit, the allure of the dark side is probably much stronger for women
+
+Why? Well because women always have the power of their pussy available to be used however, whenever, and for whatever they may want/need. They could live a "normal" life, working a normal job and having a normal relationship, having a normal family and normal kids and being a normal mom. But the whole time they're living that life, they feel the temptation of the dark side.. because they could say "fuck work, fuck this guy I'm in a relationship with, fuck this mortgage and fuck this car payment and fuck all this, I can just go manipulate some rich fuck into marrying me and taking care of everything I need, and it wouldn't even be difficult.. " 
+
+And they have to live with that every day. I don't think we men have any equivalent to that
+--- 28770792
+>>28770676
+They signal to non chads as well. They won't make it super obvious like ask you directly, but they try to bait you into making a move. That's the whole missing signals thing.
+--- 28770795
+>>28770791
+not really, they don't get to choose
+every woman has a natural push to the light side, it takes their expectations of the most important thing to them (intamcy, romance) getting blown the fuck out to turn them evil
+but when they're evil, trust it sticks
+--- 28770799
+>>28770773
+>>28770778
+Men aren't even ashamed of being pedos anymore these days, huh
+--- 28770800
+>>28770624
+Or you could just not bring it up or be honest. Fake feminists get more hate than guys who were just honest or never brought it up.
+--- 28770804
+>>28770791
+Lol @ you thinking single moms would be able to find a new rich bf to support them. Being a single mom is like the one thing that makes a woman instantly undesirable to most men
+--- 28770805
+>>28770194
+>Men and women are not equal or the same, and if you're autistic enough you can see that, but most people think in social and emotional terms that clouds their thought.
+Some people now can't even acknowledge that men and women are physically different, they sure as hell won't be able to acknowledge the mental differences either.
+--- 28770808
+No you must accept the opposite. It's always men who can't fucking remember when the toilet paper is running out or maybe they should get some bread, tylenol or diapers on the way home. 
+Or to clean up after themselves if they blow out the toilet or leave their shaving cream all over the mirror even though their wife also works full time. They always need to be nagged and reminded to do basic things so the woman ends up doing twice as much work.
+--- 28770809
+>>28770419
+>I support myself in every way and can only depend on myself.
+Most women think that, casually ignoring how society is structure to give them tons of tacit support that lets them pretend to be independent
+--- 28770819
+>>28770795
+>not really, they don't get to choose
+>every woman has a natural push to the light side
+Hahahahahaha..
+AHAHAHAHAHAHA
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEaTeuVFxa4 [Embed]
+
+Hahhh hahahahahahahaha
+
+Ahh, there's nothing to do but laugh at that statement
+
+>the most important thing to them (intamcy, romance)
+And this one, hahahahahahahahah
+
+Oh boy, misguided you are, anon. Some women are good, yes. Hell, most of them are, probably, just like most men are. But a big chunk of them are not good, not at all. Most important thing to them is intimacy/romance.. don't make me fucking laugh. And no, they're not this way because something bad happened to them in the past, aww the poor babies. Oh no, they're just fucking evil all on their own
+
+>>28770804
+>Lol @ you thinking single moms would be able to find a new rich bf to support them. Being a single mom is like the one thing that makes a woman instantly undesirable to most men
+Lol @ you thinking they wouldn't be able to. It wouldn't even take a couple months
+--- 28770826
+>>28770821
+>We all lose that childhood innocence during puberty.
+I don't think I ever had it to begin with
+--- 28770829
+>>28770809
+"Society" sure as hell isn't paying my bills every month but okay.
+--- 28770832
+>>28770826
+Were you touched as a child?
+--- 28770833
+>>28770821
+Sure, there's a distinction. The proper term for people who wanna fuck teens is not "pedo" but rather "ephebophile." It's still an abnormal paraphilia and you're still a creep
+--- 28770834
+>>28770821
+Reminder that a 5yo is old enough to decide to take hormones and get their genitals turned inside out, but a 21yo is just a baby who has no business being in a completely consensual relationship with a 30yo.
+--- 28770851
+>>28770819
+u get 1 heart
+once it's broke, it's over
+--- 28770861
+>>28770832
+>Were you touched as a child?
+Nope. I'm a guy, if that matters.. I guess guys can get touched too but whatever, just clarifying. Nothin weird like that in my childhood at all
+
+And just to be clear what I mean: 
+
+I don't think there was ever a time where I wasn't capable of understanding what was what. I could understand right and wrong, and I knew WHY I did all the things that I did. There were some times I was confused as to how to handle what I felt, but I always knew what I felt and mostly why I felt that way. I don't think there were many times where you coulda said "oh, he's just a child, he doesn't know any better" for me
+
+I could go on and on about this I'm sure, but that's a good start. I really don't see children as that different from adults, and I don't treat them that different either
+--- 28770868
+>>28770802
+Its trannies that prey on children
+--- 28770869
+>>28770851
+Buddy, my heart's been broken a whole lot more than one time, that's for sure. And I'll just keep going on, putting it out there to get broken again and again
+--- 28770872
+>>28770136 (OP)
+They are societal dependents.
+--- 28770875
+>>28770868
+trannies are literal autistic kids who have no concept of women
+
+>>28770869
+you can still feel pain after the first heart break, but the first one is the damage, everything after that is completely negatable; you get once chance at love
+imagine a broken heart just getting inflamed, it wasn't whole again when you got a new person
+this isn't a debate
+--- 28770885
+>>28770834
+>irrelevant tranny shit out of nowhere
+Are you ever NOT thinking about trannies?
+--- 28770887
+>>28770136 (OP)
+>Not complaining just confused as to how normies just pretend this isn't the case.
+normies do not experience cognitive dissonance. They believe what they are told to believe, and there are very real threats behind getting out of line. My theory is this is evolution at work, people have been bred to be docile.
+--- 28770888
+>>28770791
+Most women aren't attractive enough to get rich men and definitely not with another man's kids
+--- 28770898
+>>28770728
+Single moms are everywhere
+--- 28770902
+>>28770833
+It's not abnormal though, 16-17 is basically 18. 18 is an arbitrary age any way. Other countries have other ages. This would be an example of an actual social construct. It's completely arbitrary that an 18 year old can consent, but a 17 year old that is a month from turning 18 can't.
+
+Most men only say that because of society. Most men would find the girl in that webm attractive. That makes every man automatically a pedo, whether or not they would have sex with her.
+
+Take away American society and what do you think is going to happen if this girl was flirting with males from 18-50. A better example would be male pop stars. Take away the social norms and what do you think is gonna happen when a girl finally meets the male pop star. When i was 16 i liked hot models. I wanted to have sex with them. It's no different.
+--- 28770904
+>>28770504
+sometimes dead is better
+--- 28770906
+>>28770885
+It's not irrelevant if kids or people society considers children (teens), can make those decisions.
+--- 28770908
+>>28770719
+It really depends, some women are really charismatic and manipulative and some are just as autistic and awkward as the average 4channer
+--- 28770909
+>>28770419
+I knew an independent chick. Had her own job, looked out for herself, real go getter, etc. She was way abnormal
+
+She STILL got more support than men get. So I dont believe you for a second, and nobody with any experience does either. You can only fool children.
+--- 28770912
+>>28770875
+>this isn't a debate
+Sorry, but it is a debate. The first one was nothin compared to the ones that came after. Granted, I'm talking about having my heart broken by both friends and girlfriends. Heartbreak gets way worse when kids start getting involved, or people start dying/killing themselves, shit like that
+
+>>28770888
+>Most women aren't attractive enough to get rich men and definitely not with another man's kids
+They don't need to be. Love is funny like that
+--- 28770915
+>>28770701
+Ugly people cope
+--- 28770916
+>>28770861
+It's not just that, it's the puberty thing. You can't really understand sex until you hit puberty. It's part of growing up.
+--- 28770924
+>>28770624
+And if you're a Chad you don't have to be feminist or anything else, infa you could be the opposite and women will fuck you cause "it's so wrong but feels so good" back in 2016 there was a bunch of feminists that wrote articles about how they couldn't stop fucking trump supporters
+--- 28770930
+>>28770912
+>>love is funny like that 
+Rich people dont love
+--- 28770932
+>>28770912
+how can u believe in multiple hearts, it makes no sense unless u've never been in a relationship and had ur shit fucked up
+o wait, u haven't.
+--- 28770934
+>>28770916
+>It's not just that, it's the puberty thing. You can't really understand sex until you hit puberty. It's part of growing up.
+Nonsense. I've understood sex since.. well since as far back as I can remember. Hell, I have a picture tacked to my wall here of me as a baby, hand on my hard cock, all upset because my cock is hard and there's nowhere to put it
+
+I've always understood sex. Granted, I had a Playboy collection at age 3-4, but still. I remember patiently, and then impatiently waiting for the day I'd be able to actually jack off. I'd beat my dick and see if anything would happen, then give up and say "maybe in a couple more months.." Hell, my cousin told me around 10-11 is when I'd be able to cum, so when that age came, I bet I was checking every god damn week to see if I could cum yet lol. Fuckin jackin off to cinemax porn or girls gone wild infomercials on TV at night, just hoping tonight will be the night.. 
+
+>>28770930
+>Rich people dont love
+Yes they do, most people do. It's the woman who doesn't love in these cases, at least not the man they're with
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dANDhfWU8g [Embed]
+>>28770932
+>how can u believe in multiple hearts, it makes no sense unless u've never been in a relationship and had ur shit fucked up
+Oh but I have, more than one. I wouldn't lie to you
+--- 28770937
+>>28770934
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqgIWsjE_dk [Embed]
+--- 28770952
+>>28770902
+So many words to defend being a pedo, goddamn. If actual doctors/psychiatrists agree on what makes someone a pedo, then they are correct. Not some incel on 4chinz
+--- 28770953
+>>28770934
+You're an exception then.
+--- 28770957
+>>28770937
+You'd have to explain the song to me, anon. I guess I'm too drunk/old to make sense of it right now
+
+>>28770953
+>You're an exception then.
+On which part?
+--- 28770963
+>>28770957
+i completely forgot what i was gonna say 2 u when u said that stupid shit, but know ur an incel, ugly and everyone can c it
+u can keep typinging paragraphs but come vc me big boy
+POPSTEz#4550
+--- 28770966
+>>28770909
+>She STILL got more support than men get
+From where and in what way? OP is specifically saying that men have to support women, so where are all these men who are secretly supporting me somehow? Providing for me and protecting me apparently, is that only when I'm not looking so I never see them or what? Such a mystery here
+--- 28770970
+>>28770952
+>Men see a 17 year old, they may or may not know is 17, and think she is attractive 
+pedos
+>guys from other countries with different ages of consent
+pedos
+
+According to them basically every man is or was a pedo. 18 is arbitrary. They could have made it 19 and you would be calling guys attracted to 18 year olds pedos. If they made it 17 then you would be okay with it.
+--- 28770974
+>>28770934
+Rich people only care about looks
+--- 28770975
+>>28770909
+She was given the opportunity to be independent, as was all women. The efforts in establishing the society they occupy were fulfilled by men - all the mental and physical labor was by men. Male labor sustains a country. And no, they are not being oppressed by 'traditional gender roles' because they are not even having children or staying in marriages.
+
+Women are so comfortable with objectifying us and demanding every man be tall rich and handsome etc. is because they were given everything else. They CAN work trade jobs, but they choose not to. They CAN work as garbage men or plumbers or anything else. Nobody is barring them from shit.
+--- 28770985
+>>28770970
+It's not arbitrary. Once again, it's called ephebophilia and it's a scientific fact of psychology.
+--- 28770994
+>>28770963
+>but come vc me big boy
+>POPSTEz#4550
+I don't even know what that means :( 
+
+>>28770974
+>Rich people only care about looks
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dANDhfWU8g [Embed]
+
+Definitely not true. I dunno about rich women, honestly, but rich men? Most of them are incredibly vulnerable if a woman really wanted to take advantage of them.. Who exactly do you think are the rich men of the world? Is it the nerds or is it the football team? We all know the answer, right?
+--- 28770996
+>>28770975
+>They CAN work trade jobs, but they choose not to. They CAN work as garbage men or plumbers or anything else
+Just like men can choose to be primary teachers, caregivers, or house cleaners but choose not to. What's your point? All of these, especially teachers are integral to "sustaining the country" too
+--- 28770997
+>>28770994
+pussy
+--- 28771006
+>>28770985
+It's not pedophilia (children) and that's fucking retarded.
+>Although ephebophilia is not a psychiatric diagnosis,[2] the term pedophilia is commonly used by the general public and the media, at least in the English-speaking world, to refer to any sexual interest by significantly older adults in minors below the local age of consent, regardless of their level of physical or mental development.
+Americans are retarded.
+--- 28771013
+>>28770996
+>Just like men can choose to be primary teachers, caregivers, or house cleaners but choose not to
+Not really, most of these careers actively discriminate against hiring men because women don't want men encroaching on "their turf"
+--- 28771041
+>>28771013
+...and you think trades and STEM careers don't do the same with women?
+--- 28771050
+>>28770136 (OP)
+you call the shots, dummy
+they need you, you have acknowledged that
+they only appreciate what you provide them with, that's granted and once you get over that you realize sentence number one above
+you are in control of what you give to whom and for what reward
+you train the greedy bitches who NEED you like you will never need a cunt
+women need men in order to survive minute by minute whereas men only need women in order to reproduce
+grow up faggot
+if you still need a surrogate mom in order to grow up, get that out of your system through practice
+if this pracice leaves you with children, well you're a manchild and will struggle being a dad to them
+that's it faggot
+--- 28771056
+>>28771041
+>...and you think trades and STEM careers don't do the same with women?
+I'm not that guy but yeah, I do think STEM careers don't do the same with women. In fact, I think they openly invite women and wish more of them would join the field
+
+Meanwhile, men who want to be elementary school teachers get flat out called pedophiles half the god damn time. Well why is it okay for a woman to be an elementary teacher but not a man?. And THAT is an actual thing that men have to overcome to get into that field, as opposed to women getting into STEM, where there is NOTHING for them to overcome, except their own fucking nonsense
+--- 28771058
+>>28770747
+>75% of women work full time.
+and yet dont pay their own bills in entirety, dont budget, get into debt, and make 90% of the spending
+also onlyfans, sugar daddies, adultery and so on
+--- 28771063
+>>28771041
+Literally every career field will move heaven and earth to hire any woman who looks like she won't burn the company down.
+--- 28771070
+>>28771058
+>also onlyfans, sugar daddies
+Hey now, those are the ones that are actually trying to pay their own bills, don't cut them down, shit. Well, the onlyfans ones moreso than the sugar daddy ones. As long as they're honest with the dudes, that's what matters lol
+
+>>28771063
+>to hire any woman who looks like she won't burn the company down.
+Oh they'll hire those too, for sure
+--- 28771099
+>>28770994
+I was thinking more of finance bros than STEM nerds but whatever rich people are too tiny of a population to really matter
+--- 28771109
+>>28771084
+>Nice hyperbole. You have to exaggerate
+Yeah, cause it's funny lol
+
+>You are okay with teen girls being whores as long as they aren't fucking a 20 year old
+Where'd you come up with that? I'm okay with them being a whore regardless of who they're fucking. Though I do think it's worth taking a second look if a teen is fucking someone in their 20s. What percentage of the time is that relationship gonna be one where the older person is taking advantage?
+
+>they won't stop some weird faggot in a dress from showing an 8 year old a dildo
+The fuck you talkin about nigga?
+
+>but they can't handle a 20 year old having sex with someone who is 2 weeks shy of 18
+Did I not just say
+
+>And why the fuck was it okay for me to fuck a 15 year old when I was 16 but now that I'm 29 it's a crime or some shit? I'm still the same fucking guy, just a little older..
+
+???
+
+>>28771099
+>I was thinking more of finance bros than STEM nerds but whatever rich people are too tiny of a population to really matter
+Doesn't matter, most people are decent people
+--- 28771132
+>>28771109
+>>most people are decent 
+I wish I was as innocent as you again
+--- 28771160
+>>28771147
+Most teens are doing that anyway despite what cucks think lol
+--- 28771175
+>>28770994
+I seriously hope you are underaged and not an adult stuck in high school mentality.
+--- 28771179
+>>28771175
+I'm 29. So what do mean?
+
+>and not an adult stuck in high school mentality.
+--- 28771181
+>>28771179
+Thinking in terms of "nerds" and "football team".
+--- 28771187
+>>28771181
+>Thinking in terms of "nerds" and "football team".
+What? You didn't have nerds and a football team? Or you think all of that magically changed after everyone graduated? lol
+--- 28771252
+>>28770419
+>as a cunt i can only think and talk about myself
+we know
+stfu for your own good
+--- 28771799
+>>28770419
+>Where does this bullshit thinking come from?
+My mom, my sister, all my female cousins, all my ex gfs...larger sample size than yours
+--- 28771800
+>>28770504
+Not bitching, i am asking if it's something normies consciously lie about or not
+--- 28771805
+>>28770655
+No i really didn't know until embarrassingly late in life. Y
+Sounds like you are projecting a bit there
+--- 28771810
+>>28770808
+Hmm interesting, guess this is true too
+--- 28772002
+>>28771252
+>thread whining about women
+>woman comes in to give her perspective 
+>fuckin bitches can only talk about themselves!!! ...when they're the topic of the thread and all!
+--- 28772260
+>>28770705
+It's not that she bad at social skills, she just doesn't want to take responsibility for sex. She wants it to just happen. "Oh no I guess we're having sex!" She wants to essentially be swept up in your masculine urges.
+--- 28772326
+>>28772260
+>>28770705
+My gf and I have been talking recently about how our sex life has diminished, and she said "but I try to initiate all the time and you reject me!" Her idea of "initiating"? Asking me to come say goodnight to her when she gets in bed. Literally. Women have internalized so much insane bullshit about men and sex that they unironically have no idea what they're doing.
+--- 28772363
+>>28771058
+>no, you can't use yourself as an exmaple, you're the minority
+>also look at these women who are in the monirity too but support my side of the argument, those count
+--- 28772732
+>>28770136 (OP)
+>that they need to be told what to do, provided for, protected, and emotionally supported
+They do???
+--- 28772740
+>>28770610
+At least they are good at something. Unlike you KEK.
+--- 28772747
+>>28770136 (OP)
+>So i am supposed to accept that women are equal to men
+No you're not.
+Flawed premise from the opening sentence of the thread. Many such cases.
+--- 28772755
+>>28771056
+>>men who want to be elementary school teachers get flat out called pedophiles half the god damn time
+This doesn't happen there is a teacher shortage crisis and they're desperate for anyone especially in inner city/black schools where the teacher turn over rate is at an all time high. The problem is the vast majority of men don't wanna be teachers and when they do pick teaching high school
+--- 28772768
+>>28772326
+>Asking me to come say goodnight to her when she gets in bed.
+And? Was that not enough for you to get the hint?
+The problem with you, OP, and so many guys here is that you guys really do seem to expect women to act, talk and think just like men. It's like when femininists pushed the idea that men and women are the same, you guys are the ones who actually believed them. You take them way too seriously. They don't even actually want us to treat them the same as we do ourselves.
+>but women say they do!
+>women say
+Rookie mistake. I expect this from the incels here but come on bruh, you actually have a gf. You should know better.
+--- 28772770
+>>28770829
+sure it does, it gives you meaningless jobs so you can pay your bills. lets pretend women actually do relevant work.
+--- 28772801
+>>28771056
+>Well why is it okay for a woman to be an elementary teacher but not a man?.
+Brcause our society is dumb and sexist and feminists were right.
+--- 28772815
+>>28772768
+What fucking hint? The implication is that the entire sexual encounter is up to me, from foreplay to sex to pillow talk, which is fucking bullshit. Not because I don't want to lead the way, but because women love to say "I want you to take charge" but then they can't fucking stop themselves from backseat driving the entire time. I'm not going to initiate just to be told how to have sex, that's women having their cake and eating it too.
+--- 28774021
+>>28770136 (OP)
+Women are not equal to men:
+>Women think emotionally, men think logically (at least Men BACK THEN processed this way)
+>Women are the weaker sex 
+>Men have what's known as a penis, women have what's known as a vagina
+>Women can get pregnant and have babies, men cannot
+>Men produce sperm, women can not (bone marrow babies don't count)
+>Men produce what's called testosterone, women produce what's called estrogen
+>Men have Adams apples, women do not
+>Women have wider hips, men do not
+>Women have narrow shoulders, men have wide shoulders
+This is why Sex Education needs to come back, all of this tumblr xer xhey bullshit is propaganda created by the LGBT community and Jews.
+--- 28774045
+>>28774021
+Correction: Both sexes have Adams apples, but it appears more in males because most men have deep voices
+--- 28774048
+>>28770136 (OP)
+nah women are more valuable, always have been. families aren't scrambling to scrap together 50k$+ for grooms in SEA. it's not the female chicks that get shredded alive in the egg industry. etc etc
+--- 28774604
+you're supposed to publiclly espouse things you do not believe.
+--- 28774767
+>>28770136 (OP)
+This like the 5th thread about how ACTUALLY MEN ARE THE REAL VICTIMS OF SOCIETY AND IT'S A COMPETITION TO SEE WHO THE MOST VICTIMIZED PEOPLE ARE - WHITE WOMEN OR INTERNET INCELS
+
+how about you both share first place in the Opression Olympics that you're trying to win, gold medals all around
+--- 28774911
+>>28774767
+I did not say any of those things, in fact i think women have it harder in most aspects of life. Retard
+--- 28775026
+>>28770898
+Moms arent women, they are moms
+--- 28775223
+>>28774911
+so what does it matter if they're equal or not in one way or another
+
+is it a contest?
+--- 28775391
+>>28770136 (OP)
+There's no real difference between a feminist and an incel.

adv/28770224.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770224
+If I see a guy and a girl talking at some party I'll immediately analyze their every move, eye movements, body language etc and IMMEDIATELY draw conclusions like "she's leading him on, probably just for attention" for example. I do this constantly with everyone. If a man shakes my hand a certain way I'll think he's trying to assert dominance, then I'll look for it in his eyes or voice or posture to confirm, etc. Obviously this makes it hard for me to be in a relationship because I'm constantly analyzing the way she speaks to me, texts me, interacts with other people. Everything becomes a power play, a manipulative tactic to make me jealous, or attraction to another man. It's not always insecure cuck shit like cheating, but for example I'll do something for her and I'll see her eyes move a certain way and immediately draw a conclusion like "she's trying to show gratitude but ultimately she didn't care much and is trying to hide it" ETC ETC I am sick in the fucking brain.
+The reason this is a problem is because I'm wrong sometimes and I can never have innocent moments without seeing something through every single action from everyone. Surprisingly I'm right a lot of times but sometimes I'm wrong and get riled up for nothing and I wish I could turn my brain off. Is there a way to fix this autism?
+--- 28770230
+>>28770224 (OP)
+>Surprisingly I'm right a lot of times
+This is more valuable than any gift one could get. You have the ability to see through people's bullshit, why would you want to turn it off?
+--- 28770236
+Based schizo. I really need a friend like you in my life. Wish you the best.
+--- 28770242
+>>28770236
+OP, any tips for us?
+--- 28770249
+>>28770230
+I'm not always right and I get wrong signals sometimes. Like some guy will be a tiny bit too touchy with me or shake my hand 1 second longer than usual and I'll IMMEDIATELY think "he's gay and he's sexually attracted to me". It also makes me paranoid with girls in relationship and it makes me calculate my every moves as a response. I want some innocence in my interactions with people for once instead of being le autistic cynic I guess
+--- 28770250
+>>28770224 (OP)
+same boat senpai. I like doing that though.
+--- 28770251
+>>28770224 (OP)
+What's the issue
+--- 28770265
+>>28770236
+Ty anon, I surprise my friends sometimes. I give great advice with girls but sometimes they're shocked at my autistic theories about guys wanting to fuck me etc lol
+
+>>28770242
+Not really advice but basically for me it's all about power and/or sex. If you want to be like me just start assuming everything you notice about people is an attempt to attract someone in the room or is an attempt to mog someone in the room (usually to attract someone in the room)
+--- 28770276
+I do this too to a lesser extent. It’s because you’re manipulative and nuanced and you project that on other people.
+--- 28770282
+>>28770224 (OP)
+I do the same thing. I get caught in my head constantly. Social situations drive me nuts. Trying to figure out why it was good one moment and not good another moment has driven me insane. So much of successful socializing is almost instinctive randomness. Trying to figure it all out and plan on things going a certain way seems almost hopeless. All that said, I've come to realize that I'm seen as pretty smart by some of my friends and family. They've either said that or said things that allude to it. So I'm not retarded or anything. But shit if it doesn't feel that way as I'm pacing back and forth running conversations, debating things with myself, or driving home late after a party, more depressed then ever for the tenth time despite nothing going wrong. I wish I was able to just turn it off sometimes and just let go. Oh well.
+--- 28770325
+>>28770282
+I see a certain look or someone touching someone else's arm and the thought immediately pops, "he wants her", and then I just kinda assume that and carry on, or continue to look for more signs to confirm, and I agree it's useful because you can never be the clueless oblivious guy but at the same time it's tiring when it does this with people you love and you start seeing doubt in your close friends' eyes just from one look, or infidelity from your gf, stuff like that. Then you try to confirm etc it's tiring and can make you act different with the people you love. So idk about you but I don't really agonize over it when it's random social situations with randoms (except for ego situations like a guy subtly attempting to mog me publicly, and then me trying to analyze the room and see if it worked and how people react to it etc lol), but it starts to drive me nuts when it's about my friends or family
+--- 28771821
+>>28770325
+I mean I can see that stuff in people as well. And I'll often just people watch and watch their looks and movements and try and pick up and little cues and to how their feeling internally. It's fun to me but I don't really care. Maybe it'll help me talk to them because I can figure out their mood without talking to them. But I also need to be good at talking to people, which isna whole other skill. You seem to be seeing all this but taking a very dark perspective on it. Like your focusing on all the worst intentions of someone. "Cheating, and """""mogging"""" (get a grip). Your focus is in a bad place. Seems like if all you see are negative intentions from people, you might just be paranoid.
+--- 28772830
+>>28771821
+Well I obviously am paranoid, I got some trust issues I guess and tend to see the worst in people (which makes sense, since I'm sure I ignore all the non-alarming stuff). So how do I become less paranoid then?? I just can't help but assume the worst every time. Basically how do I trust people?
+--- 28773627
+bump
+--- 28773733
+>>28770224 (OP)
+OP this skill often comes from growing up in a household where you had to walk on eggshells around one or both parents. It’s a survival strategy to be able to guage unpredictable parenting. Does this ring true for you?
+--- 28773796
+>>28770224 (OP)
+The key is to not care about the going ons of other people. What do I care if some girl leads another guy on? Not my business. What do I care how some person moves? Who the fuck cares? Get some more interesting things to think about.
+--- 28773910
+>>28773733
+No, my family was fine. I wasn't like this before but I got my heart broken by some girl in high school and I autistically delved into pick up artistry stuff, charisma/social skills subreddits and websites, and incel stuff. I know for a fact that's where I got it from, which explains why it's usually related to power or sex stuff and why it's usually pretty grim.
+
+>>28773796
+As I said before it becomes a problem when it concerns my loved ones and I start seeing stuff and becoming all paranoid and stuff. Can't really relax around them and be in the moment and innocent
+--- 28774215
+>>28773910
+Yup, you're training yourself to be alone forever after reading that junk. It just makes you insecure and forever analytical instead of focusing on just being a person. 
+
+It's trauma and I wouldn't bother dating again until you talk to a therapist about that relationship and unravel your head a little. Get some confidence doing something you're good at or becoming good at something not related to/for women.
+
+t. been you and had it ruin several opportunities with women, work and life.
+--- 28774289
+>>28770224 (OP)
+Like another OP pointed out, this is a fantastic skill to have. The problem is that not that you're reading too much into people's body language, but rather that you're taking the conclusions too seriously. People's emotions are fickle, often having NOTHING to do with you at their root, even if they were provoked by something you did. 
+We're all capable of multiple layers of depth, even if some of our initial instincts and reactions betray desire, discomfort, past trauma, etc. So, take the conclusions less seriously, or perhaps ignore them, and stay confident. Reading people and reacting accordingly is an art, and having a tit-for-tat attitude (or worse, simply doing nothing and losing frame because of it) can be incredibly counterproductive.
+--- 28774308
+this is either mild anxiety disorder or straight up autism
+--- 28774418
+>>28774215
+I'd agree with what you said but I'm right a lot of times though. Besides, it's not like I can forget it. What do? Regarding confidence, I'm a fairly confident man and have a lot of self esteem, my problem is that I am NOT confident in other people, my experience has taught me they aren't reliable. Women cheat and friends fuck up. I agree reading all that "junk" did kinda make me paranoid and stuff but there's a reason I landed there in the first place.
+
+>>28774289
+That's very true man. I wish there was resources online for guys like us. Imagine a whole forum full of ascended PUA autists looking to be happy while maintaining control, it'd be full of fascinating discussions I'm sure.
+--- 28774912
+>>28774418
+>while maintaining control
+Honestly? You may want to let this go after a certain extent. If the space for favorable outcomes is so constrained that you find yourself needing to "control" people (beings with free will), even after stacking the deck in your favor, then maybe you should let things go.
+--- 28775407
+>>28772830
+I had major MAJOR trust issues for a long time after dealing with a BPD girl. Getting over it meant just forcing myself to trust people. Which means just believing them when they say something. Even though I might not believe them deep down, I just have to act like I do, and that's what trust is. You just hold them to their word. It's on them to keep it, not on you to believe it. And then the results of this trust will kind of show you who the good people are, and who your friends really are. And also making a effort to stop spending time around people who aren't trustworthy, and don't care about you. Hope that helps.
+--- 28775418
+>>28774289
+This is a good post. Thanks.

adv/28770510.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770510
+How do I become more.. manly?
+
+I used to have a close group of guy friends in college who kept me grounded. I moved away after college and really only interact with women I try to fuck. They rub off on me and I come off as meek and kinda feminine, I don't know why but I hate it. 
+
+Should I join some boxing/BJJ gym? Should I check my T levels? What do I do?
+--- 28770874
+just get strong, then do whatever you want
+confidence is the only true "masculine" trait, and for a lot of guys that confidence only has to be backed up by physical fortitude
+--- 28770897
+>>28770874
+that's the recipe for a massive asshole but there is some truth to what you said.
+
+>>28770510 (OP)
+Yes, get strong and confident, but becoming strong and confident isn't an excuse to do how you want, a blade still cuts through your meat like any other meat in this world.
+Get strong confident and respectful, respect people and get pretend respect then just do however you want with activities and such, don't just do whatever you want to others cause you are physically more powerful, a blade still cuts through you.
+--- 28770911
+Bet that dude passes actual tree stumps in the toilet. You know they refuse to bend or break and ignore the flushes, remaining there until someone gets angry and chops them up
+--- 28770919
+Testosterone level blood test. Find out. Supplemental treatment is easy. You get prescribed... Testosterone
+--- 28770921
+>>28770897
+>recipe for a massive asshole
+by whatever you want I mean like hobby wise, not being inconsiderate, you're right thats an important distinction
+--- 28770938
+>>28770921
+then we were on the same boat all along.
+--- 28771004
+>>28770938
+MC poo flinger
+
+MC "yo where is your nearest welfare office"
+--- 28772691
+>>28770510 (OP)
+Read way of the superior man
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV6ituxFZr0 [Embed]
+--- 28772742
+>>28770510 (OP)
+Manliness isn't something you need to become, it's something you are. You are a man by virtue of biology and custom. If you are just talking about the ideal, then a focus on physical fitness, self-reliance and expressions of creativity are all distinctly male traits.
+--- 28772962
+>>28770938
+shit this two dudes were so fucking nice to each other
+FUCK
+that's cool as shit
+also this >>28770897
+--- 28774387
+I have trouble letting go and being goofy/aloof. I have such a great personality when I feel good, but I just get stuck overthinking. 
+
+I feel better around my friends and family back home, but I'm in a new city totally alone since graduating college. I don't know why it's so hard to make new friends. Maybe it's the place I'm in or maybe it's just me, but damn I feel stuck. It's like I can't feel good without friends, and I can't make friends without feeling good.
+
+I had a date with a girl and thought it went really well, she said she'd text me but hasn't. This happens a lot. All I can assume is that I don't come off nonchalant like normie rugged men. 
+
+How do I get out of this funk?
+--- 28774415
+I'm always thinking about how many other options girls have here. Pretty girls are literally bombarded with attention 24/7 and they can just dispose of men so easily. I live in a city full of military hunks and olympic bodybuilders. They'll just ghost me and I assume they found someone better. 
+
+I have no idea what I'm doing wrong but it really brings me down. I find myself obsessing over dating apps, changing my pics/bio constantly, never getting the results I want. Checking the girl's snapchat score to see it's going up, so she's talking to someone else and ignoring me. Feels bad. Been stuck here for a while and don't know what to do.

adv/28770527.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770527
+How can I prevent unwanted attention when going to the gym
+--- 28770753
+>>28770527 (OP)
+By not going out of your way to attract attention to yourself in the gym.
+--- 28770796
+Male:
+Stop doing whatever autistic thing you're doing.
+
+Female:
+Stop wearing leggings and sports bras, consider wearing shorts and t-shirts like the men do.
+--- 28771009
+>>28770527 (OP)
+Imagine she did a fart. It would probably smell so stinky hahaha
+--- 28771039
+>>28770527 (OP)
+Exhibit A: Women are fucking stupid.
+A new creep appears and the cycle repeats.
+
+She already gets a lot of attention for being conventionally attractive. I can't imagine being a woman. If this girl was an average guy she would kill herself from lack of attention.
+--- 28771855
+>>28771039
+So why arent you killing yourself yet
+--- 28771860
+>>28770527 (OP)
+Wear clothes that don't hug your ass or tits for dear life.
+--- 28771900
+>>28771860
+Any non incel advice please
+--- 28771919
+>>28771900
+>wear clothes that accentuate her curves
+>WAAAAAAAAH STOP STARING YOU INCEL
+--- 28771927
+>>28770527 (OP)
+What even is unwanted attention?
+If you're a man, stop being a pussy. Mires are free test boosts.
+If you're a woman, what kind of attention are you getting, and what type of men are giving it to you?
+--- 28771933
+>>28770527 (OP)
+"When that one creep leaves the gym"
+>doesn't do a SINGLE REP of anything, just strikes slutty poses for tiktok likes
+
+You really aren't helping yourself here by using this as your vidrel.
+--- 28771961
+>>28771927
+>and what type of men are giving it to you?
+Creepy beta incels
+--- 28771966
+>>28771900
+There's nothing incel about it, the strongest of the five senses in people is sight. If you dress or look a certain way that sticks out from the crowd, you're going to get noticed and looked at. Therefore, if you don't want to attract the strongest sense in people, don't stick out by wearing clothes that can be alluring, blend in.
+--- 28771969
+>>28771966
+How about you incels change your mindset and dont look at us
+--- 28772012
+>>28771961
+>creepy beta incels
+>at the gym
+Describe this attention to me. What are these men *actually* doing that bothers you, and is any part of your attire/behavior doing anyrhing to invite it?
+
+There are three types of women at the gym;
+1; insecure fatties walking on treadmills for 20 minutes because office drones don't into fitness and health
+2; women who've done their research and wear appropriate gymwear that signals "I'm here to exercise"
+3; vile attention-seeking social media addicts in skintight underwear.
+
+Hello #3.
+--- 28772026
+>>28771969
+Cry about it, if you won't listen to reason then you deserve your suffering.
+--- 28772052
+>>28771969
+Do you like it when attractive men look at you?
+Or are they supposed to avert their eyes too?
+If you want to he seen by some, then you have to live with being seen by all. If you want to be invisible to all, then you have to make yourself invisible to all.
+--- 28772058
+>>28772052
+Yes unattractive men should know ther place. Women are doing everything they can to look good, why cant they do the same?
+--- 28772075
+>>28772012
+>Describe this attention to me. What are these men *actually* doing that bothers you
+They look at me creepily without my consent
+--- 28772092
+>>28771927
+It probably doesn't happen as often as some people claim but there are legit guys who will stop and gawk openly for periods of time at women in gyms when the women just want to work out.
+--- 28772112
+You pretty much just answered your own question in the first post. Wear a big hoodie.
+--- 28772133
+>>28772058
+Women are at their least attractive ever.
+They are covered in childish scribble, have fucking stupid dyejobs making their hair brittle and thin, are obsessed with virtue signalling for violent invasive species and fetish-addled groomers, all want meme make-work careers and to "travel," to spend their evenings in shitholes dancing to degenerate music surrounded by society's lowest dregs where no decent man would be seen dead, then finally, you'll whine about there being no "decent men" until you eventually lovelessly marry a complete beta cuck paypig to raise the children he believes are his.
+
+Meanwhile, the high-test, high-IQ men found plain, shy wives who spent their youths reading books and crocheting cute things.
+--- 28772140
+Tbh there was a large amount of ugly low value men (mostly black) at my gym who were unfit, obviously didnt work out and just came to stare at women so I left it and was looking for a women only gym like I heard about but there wasn't any in my area. So I went started working out outside, hiking and mountain biking and I'm happier for it, the people are much friendlier and the guys are much higher quality
+--- 28772150
+>>28772075
+>>28772092
+Oh no the horror.
+That must be so awful for you.
+Allow me to put down my millennia of being the gender sent to die in wars, mine fuel and operate heavy machinery to wipe away your tears of oppression while you enjoy your freedom and luxuries having to endure an unattractive man admiring you from a distance.
+--- 28772174
+>>28772140
+>mostly black
+This is what 99.99% of women don't dare say or even admit to themselves.
+They screech about men because that's socially acceptible, even encouraged, because men=bad, but ANY mention of the mens' race is strictly forbidden, because white men or "incels" are the villains of the current era, not the brown ones harrassing women trying to mind their own business.
+--- 28772178
+>>28772150
+Let me put it in a way you'll understand, it's a race issue. Most women won't admit it because we are afraid of being doxxed and beaten to death but we do talk about it privately.
+--- 28772190
+>>28772178
+You voted to let them in slut.
+No refunds.
+
+Same as the trannies currently btfoing you in sports and nearly killing mma fighters.
+Men never wanted immigrants or trannies. But women got the vote and suddenly we have feral brown rape gangs and men in dresses in women's bathrooms.
+--- 28772255
+>>28772174
+Ha you took the words out of my mouth.
+>>28772190
+I didnt vote for anything like that, the only time I voted was for trump in 2020. As for women's sports these trannies can only "btfo" in MMA or other similar combat sports, they are nothing in sports that have to do with speed and agility. And these female fighters support it so let them be btfo, not my problem. This is an obvious scam for men too weak and effeminate to compete with other men.
+--- 28772298
+>>28772255
+>they are nothing in sports that have to do with speed and agility.
+Swimming, sprinting, hurdles, trannies are dominating every female sport they touch.
+>this is an obvious scam for men too weak and effeminate to compete with other men.
+Yes, we know. We have been saying for years that trannies are just weak men, fetishists, or incels who think they can get lesbian pussy.
+
+You may not have voted yourself, but it IS women that have voted in the shit destroying our countries.
+If "all men" is a thing, so is "all women", and it's "all women" currently defending trannies, africans, boat men and muslims despite being the ones for whom they present the greatest risk
+--- 28772312
+>>28772178
+
+Yeh, those are always the ones that catcall me. I mean, I didn't even think that was seriously done outside of cartoons until I went on a vacation.
+--- 28772319
+>>28771860
+
+To be fair, working out in heavy, baggy clothing isn't very fun.
+--- 28772327
+>>28772319
+Ever hear of shorts and shirts?
+--- 28772329
+>>28772327
+>>shorts
+>more skin
+
+Seriously?
+--- 28772331
+>>28772319
+There are options between "literally a second skin that leaves nothing to the imagination" and "a massive fucking hoodie and thick baggy joggers."
+--- 28772337
+>>28772329
+Bare legs are less of a distraction than yoga pants that drive attention to your ass.
+--- 28772339
+>>28772329
+Actual shorts go to your fucking knees, not the bottom of your arse cheeks ffs. This isn't 1887, no-one's gonna be ogling your fucking calves.
+--- 28772341
+>>28772331
+
+Like what? Show me something being sold on Amazon or whatever.
+--- 28772343
+>>28772339
+
+Um... I would...
+--- 28772345
+>>28772339
+
+What, like some basketballer? Women's shorts don't do that.
+--- 28772350
+>>28772341
+>>28772345
+>30 seconds on a clothing website
+Do women ever actually try or just complain?
+--- 28772365
+>>28772341
+
+Something like this seems kinda modest for the bottoms anyways. Jogging pants so I'm assuming it breathes ok.
+--- 28772374
+>>28772350
+
+Curve is a plus size women's clothing manufacturer. Not all women are actually plus size.
+--- 28772376
+>>28771969
+tits or gtfo
+--- 28772383
+Buy a binder you know the ones ftm men use.
+--- 28772402
+>>28772374
+"I want to eat at a restaurant but there aren't any near me"
+>I google "restaurant near X" and share the first result
+"Nooo I don't like that one"
+
+Why are women like this.
+--- 28772406
+>>28772374
+
+This is the closest I could find, still might be weird to do yoga poses in something like that.
+--- 28772411
+>>28772402
+
+Have you ever attempted to wear clothing that is way too big or you?
+--- 28772418
+>>28772406
+
+POCKETSES!
+--- 28772438
+>>28772411
+Are you THAT stupid.
+Those shorts were "Yours' brand. The FIT was "curve".
+
+I am a man that has never once been on a women's clothing website, and it took me 30 seconds to find an example of shorts that fit every criteria I listed and you're complaining that I didn't find your fucking size.
+--- 28772460
+>>28772438
+
+nta but it's in pounds. Find something in dollars.
+--- 28772487
+>>28772350
+
+Floral splodge sounds dirty...
+--- 28772495
+>>28772487
+
+It is. Do the Brits know that's slang for ejaculation in America?
+--- 28772496
+>>28772460
+>american
+>unbelievably lazy and entitled
+Checks out.
+--- 28772500
+>>28770527 (OP)
+> How can I prevent unwanted attention when going to the gym
+dont dress like a whore.
+
+If you think Im exaggerating, I see whores regularly. I know what they dress like. Gym girls dress like whores.
+--- 28772504
+>>28772495
+Splodge is a fucking painting technique you classless retards fuck I hate americans
+--- 28772518
+>>28771969
+>Don’t you DARE glance at ME peasant.
+--- 28772526
+>>28770527 (OP)
+Why do women always have to wear those kind of pants that highlight their ass/coochie? You guys do know sweatpants exists, right? If you don't want attention just wear that.
+--- 28772531
+>>28772075
+>look at me creepily without consent
+
+Is there a way to look at you creepily with consent? Also, since when do people need consent to just LOOK at someone in a public place? What exactly constitutes a “creepy” look?
+--- 28772536
+>>28772496
+
+I'm just illustrating that that kind of fashion isn't common in America.
+--- 28772544
+>>28772531
+
+Staring is creepy. A glance is ok and often expected. It's not a difficult concept.
+--- 28772551
+>>28772190
+Men brought slaves to the US, fought a war to release them, all under the supervision of a 100% male government. Women didn’t get to vote until the 20th century.
+--- 28772572
+>>28772544
+How many seconds until it’s a stare? And how exactly do you know they’re staring at you?
+--- 28772588
+>>28772572
+
+I just knew some sperg was gonna ask about seconds. Read the room...
+--- 28772598
+>>28772572
+
+Peripheral vision actually pick up a lot. And if I know there's someone behind me, I'm most likely not gonna do yoga poses and stuff like that.
+--- 28772627
+>>28772551
+The civil war was nothing to do with freeing slaves, it was the northern cityfolk trying to fuck with the rural south by fucking them over with taxes etc and the south didn't want faggot yankies that couldn't even grow their own food getting rich off their efforts and wanted to secede. 
+That's been retconned into some bullshit race war bullshit instead of a class war.
+
+The north just imported millions of irish immigrants and drafted them to send in human waves at the southerners until they literally ran out of bullets and had to surrender.
+
+Not one shot was fired to free slaves you mutt retard.
+--- 28772629
+>>28772588
+>I just knew I was going to be asked to back up my claims with reasoning. SPERG!!!
+
+>>28772598
+>peripheral vision picks up a lot
+So you agree? Men can’t help but see you.
+--- 28772638
+>>28772629
+>Men can’t help but see you.
+
+Sure, I'm not ignorant of the fact that most women are visually appealing to men.
+--- 28772648
+>>28772572
+Just don't look. Nothing annoys a narcissistic whore more than being ignored. They need their tiktok points.
+--- 28772652
+>>28770527 (OP)
+>don't look at me but actually look at me
+--- 28772657
+>>28772629
+
+I mean there's no hard and fast rule for that. It can't be qualified and depends on the social situation.
+--- 28772659
+>>28772627
+https://teachingamericanhistory.org/document/the-corner-stone-speech/
+
+>Stephens passionately declared that the Confederacy was explicitly founded on slavery and white supremacy, thereby forever undercutting the view still espoused by many southerners, and some northerners, that the Civil War was fought to preserve not slavery but states’ rights, and to oppose northern tyranny. 
+
+The vice president of the confederacy seems to have disagreed with you.
+--- 28772671
+>>28772657
+>it depends entirely on how I feel in the moment and has everything to do with whether I’m horny at the moment.
+--- 28772683
+>>28772350
+>>28772406
+these look completely fucking ridiculous lel
+--- 28772693
+>>28772671
+
+Ok, sure. Yeh, if you're at a bar or a club, you're wanting to get checked out. If you're going to the grocery store for some milk you're most likely not wanting to. And?
+--- 28772705
+>>28772671
+
+Wow, it's almost like women have thoughts and feelings.
+--- 28772708
+>>28772659
+>the winning side never lies about their defeated opponents
+Kek sourcefags are the worst
+--- 28772718
+>>28772438
+>Available in sizes 14 to 36
+>fat girl marketing
+>ugly ass clothes
+>"""""curvy""""" fit
+>completel bullshit size guide that tip toes around making anyone say their actual measurements
+>input my measurements and got shown the door
+not that anon, but there's no way these aren't built for fat girls
+also they're not even activewear, and i've never in my life seen anyone but maybe billie eilish wear anything so frumpy
+even men who wear ""shorts"" below the knee look fucking retarded, like a little boy trying to wear big boy shorts
+--- 28772726
+>>28772705
+Wow, it’s almost like thoughts and feelings shouldn’t be as well regarded as facts and logic
+--- 28772729
+>>28772683
+You're either a woman seeing functional clothing not designed for attention-seeking and your brain is rejecting it or you're a degenerate coomer thinking "I can't masturbate inside my shorts to a woman wearing that."
+--- 28772736
+>>28772693
+So pick clothes appropriate for those occasions
+
+>clubs
+
+The number of posts I’ve seen with women bitching about how they went out to the club just to drink and dance and not get flirted with…
+--- 28772754
+>>28772718
+>activewear
+Anyone who wears "activewear" is a fucking retard consoomer who doesn't into marketing.
+The dudes in the gym who know what they are doing are wearing cheap shit tshirts with holes in and comfy shorts not meme consoomer overpriced bullshit.
+
+And I JUST said that what I found was the result of a 30-second search. Those shorts are unflattering, fit to the knee, and are made out of jersey, a very good fabric to work out in.
+
+Women, they reee if anyone looks and ask how to avoid attention, but the mere suggestion that they wear something that doesn't make them look like an attention-seeking whore has them screeching like a 10yo fortnite player
+--- 28772757
+>>28772736
+>So pick clothes appropriate for those occasions
+
+Great we're right back to were we started.
+
+>clubs
+
+That's kind of a topic for a different thread unless you explain more about how that's relevant and not just you bitching about it.
+--- 28772758
+>>28772708
+>sourcefags 
+
+So, how exactly do you get information without sources? Also, the vice president of the confederacy seems like a good primary source to me. I gave you the secondary source in hopes you could get some further reading, but it shouldn’t be hard to find the transcript of the cornerstone speech if you want it.
+--- 28772766
+>>28772758
+Kek I bet you've been to auschwitz and had a good cry about the 6 gorillion as well haven't you. Good goy.
+--- 28772781
+>>28772551
+Kek that's what I've been saying for years, they're so weak they blame everything on us white women who didn't have any say on anything until 40 years ago by then the nation was already in shambles
+--- 28772793
+>>28772757
+>>So pick clothes appropriate for those occasions
+
+nta but I've been to the store in ratty t-shirts, hair a greasy mess, and just dressing down isn't a good deterrent. If someone really wants to look, they're gonna look.
+--- 28772804
+>>28772766
+>changes the topic because he has no facts
+
+I haven’t been to Auschwitz, but the holocaust did happen, and no, pretending it didn’t isn’t an argument. You’re going to have to go through all the records they kept and tell everyone why each and every one is a forgery made by the weak Jews you hate so much controlling people (somehow, despite being weak). One thing I’m sure we can agree on is that the “master race” has 2 world wars to fight to prove its superiority, and it lost. Twice. Take that as you will.
+
+Now, will you get back to the argument you were losing? Or are you going on a schizo rant about how your BBC fetish is the fault of the women who couldn’t vote to have niggers shipped back to Africa?
+--- 28772806
+>>28772781
+It was all over after generational wealth began deciding the fates of nations rather than the strength of a tribe's men.
+
+Technology benefits no-one but its owners. When hunters became farmers and the wealth class emerged letting narrow shouldered weaklings and their desperation for female approval make world-shaping decisions humanity was doomed.
+--- 28772822
+>>28772804
+Kek rattling off every cliche you can think of just makes you look like a retard.
+I'm not here to change your mind, the beliefs of cattle are worthless even if they CAN be changed.
+--- 28772832
+>>28772822
+Then what are you here for, oh wise farmer of cattle?
+--- 28772833
+>>28772766
+Seethe more, southern trash you were always jealous of the north, we were always smarter and more advanced but you traded in the chance of a 100% white nation for your ruling elite to get ez money from slave labor, when you knew you couldn't compete with our industry. We wanted to send them to Liberia, you guys insisted on keeping them its your fault.
+--- 28772834
+We went from girls exercising to Auschwitz? Ok, cool.
+--- 28772846
+>>28772834
+Right? Fucking 4chan
+--- 28772852
+>>28770527 (OP)
+i don't care if people look or don't look, i simply enjoy looking nice. i workout at my bare-bones home gym alone, now i can enjoy wearing short shorts while working out and nobody except my bf can bother me.
+--- 28772854
+>>28772833
+Most southerners had never even seen a slave, retard. There were a handful of cotton farms. Every other farm was run by white free communities and families.
+
+And "your industry" was importing tens of thousands of irish to live in slums and work for a fraction of the going price.
+And then when the southerners kicked off, you sent human waves of irish until the southerners ran out of ammo.
+--- 28772867
+>>28772832
+To point and laugh at those beyond saving my triple-jabbed friend.
+--- 28772878
+>>28772867
+Have you tried a mirror?
+--- 28772905
+>>28772729
+>fuck ugly billowy floral shorts
+>not attention seeking
+to say nothing of the bizarre black ones that still hug the ass but billow at the quads for some reason, who is that for? it looks like they just got stretched out by a fat girl before she put them on
+--- 28772910
+>>28772878
+Where do you get your comebacks, late 90s cheerleader movies?
+--- 28772920
+>>28772905
+Kek you're STILL sperging out about those crappy shorts I found?
+
+Find your own gymwear you lazy slag
+--- 28772922
+>>28772350
+Those are the ugliest fucking shorts I've ever seen
+--- 28772929
+>>28772406
+UGLY. Like a second grader who's mom buys all her clothes at Walmart.
+--- 28772930
+>>28772910
+>Where do you get your comebacks, late 90s cheerleader movies?
+>*uses late 90s cheerleader movie comeback*
+
+Tell ya what, if you can source a late 90s cheerleader movie that uses that line, I’ll tell you if I’ve seen it.
+--- 28772934
+>>28772754
+>implying they're not overpriced
+anon, you don't understand fast fashion. if it's not designed for wear and tear, it won't survive the night after being put through a workout.
+and finding cheap, plain t-shirts and """modest""" active shorts isn't difficult at all, i own like 5 pairs. not to the knee, because it's not 300BC and the only people who wear shorts below the knee are manlets who don't know how to hem, but still.
+your example is just fucking retarded, own it.
+--- 28772942
+>>28772920
+idk if you've confused me with someone else, but i've made like 2 posts
+but for real, i've just literally never seen anything like those black ones, i have so many questions. but mostly just "why?" and "for what purpose?"
+--- 28772945
+>>28772922
+>>28772929
+And you WON'T get ogled in them.
+Isn't that what you want you fucking retard?
+--- 28772949
+>>28772920
+
+Nah, that one wasn't me, you wanker.
+--- 28772963
+All the women itt, well done for reinforcing absolutely everything the worst incel on r9k has to say about you.
+You've probably caused a few conversions to islam because your behavior, self-awareness, arrogance and cognition has been so appalling and blackpilling.
+--- 28772964
+>>28772945
+
+nta but I don't think one should have to dress in clown clothes to not get ogled.
+--- 28772968
+>>28772945
+I would rather be oggled than look like a developmentally delayed child that is dressed by their boomer mom.
+--- 28772971
+>>28772929
+
+Those ones aren't bad, I might consider something like that.
+--- 28772979
+>>28772971
+It's the length for me. I think I'm traumatized by bermudas.
+--- 28772991
+>>28772979
+
+Then you get the whole argument from spergs that you're showing too much leg and asking for it.
+--- 28772993
+>>28772854
+Last time I checked Irish were still white so there's nothing wrong with them. We were future oriented and knew we must technologically advanced and not be stuck in some agrian master/slave role play like some 3rd world shithole
+>>slums and fraction of the price
+Real hypocritical when you were the ones who had slavery, it was us who improved labor laws and revolted against crony capitalism, us who have historically voted in our own interests economically.
+>>waves of Irish until southerners ran out of ammo
+You're just jealous we are better are warfare than you.
+--- 28773026
+>>28772964
+>>28772968
+Peak anti-logic woman-brain
+--- 28773032
+>go to gym 3-4x/week
+>every time see shirtless men and women, women in booty shorts, men in cutoffs, fatties, trannies, the whole 9 yards
+>everyone's friendly and outright chatty with each other
+>literally no problems ever
+>go on the internet
+>wall-to-wall seething tikthots and 4chan islamic extremists
+is this some american shit?
+you literally might as well be complaining that you can see womens entire faces, there's just a complete disconnect from reality as far as i see it.
+have you guys spoken to people you know irl about these feelings? is this the consensus or is it just a you thing?
+would you say this is standard female gym attire (however much you disapprove of it) or is it out of the norm and seems extra slutty from where you're standing? it's extremely banal from my perspective, but maybe it's more outlandish from where you're standing, idk
+
+i see this attitude on /fit/ too, and i'm confident at least like 5% of that board has actually set foot in a gym at least once, so it can't be purely hypothetical seething.
+you guys are just so bizarre.
+--- 28773035
+>>28772993
+I'm british, the only reason you HAVE a country is because the french chased us off at the time when only the french could take us on.
+I hate all of america tbf, but it would be interesting to see what would have been with a dixie victory.
+
+The irish are white, but they were refugees fleeing a famine. Hardly holding any bargaining chips for their treatment in the new world, were they?
+--- 28773052
+>>28772945
+>And you WON'T get ogled in them.
+won't get oggled in something completely ridiculous that doesn't look like anything anyone's ever worn? you sure about that?
+(for the record, i'm neither of those anons and personally dgaf about getting 'oggled' because i don't live in saudi arabia).
+--- 28773066
+>>28772793
+
+This. It's not us, it's you guys.
+--- 28773070
+>>28773032
+It is just americans, yeah.
+At my gym there are plenty of varbies with huge fake tits wearing little more than stretchy lingerie, and they just get on with it. It is a higher-end gym though, it's almost exclusively white, so it doesn't attract brown poors who just want to ogle white girls.
+
+The world that american-dominated social media insists exists is complete fiction, but americans are SO stupid and loud that it seems like the rest of the world follows their rules.
+--- 28773078
+>>28773066
+Are you people SO vile that the human action of regarding others with curiosity or interest is a war crime to you?
+--- 28773087
+>>28773070
+
+I'm Canadian, which is pretty much just America Jr. true, but I think I agree with you.
+--- 28773101
+>>28773078
+
+I'm saying that you CAN actually do that but you guys generally do it in such a way as to make the other person uncomfortable. I don't mean guys in general, I mean guys here, on 4chan, /adv/.
+--- 28773105
+>>28772991
+Full pants are an option.
+>>28773026
+I'm not op. I don't mind if people look I only mind if they're weird/gross about it. I wear what I like and don't fuss over other people making incorrect assumptions about my character because of my clothes, or lack of clothes.
+>>28773052
+This lmao I'd get looked at in those far more than the tighter shorts I do wear.
+--- 28773110
+>>28773101
+You're making him uncomfortable so leave forever thanks
+--- 28773115
+Are women only gyms a thing? Seems like it would take a lot of the hassle out of it.
+--- 28773150
+>>28773070
+Yes, like I said its a race issue all the femanons ITT would have nothing to screech about if they went to a white area
+--- 28773165
+>>28773150
+
+I'm just now realizing that all the guys who've ever hit on me in a gym haven't been white.
+
+The fuck? I don't wanna be racist but that's not making it any easier.
+--- 28773168
+To the men and women actually screeching ITT, how many of you actually care vs just screeching for the sake of screeching? How many of you even have one iota of experience in the thing you're screeching about?
+Be honest, it's anonymous, you can keep screeching until you're blue in the face and the opposition will never know.
+--- 28773182
+>>28772758
+Are you stupid? They're dragging you down to their level, because reading 10 studies, but preferably a meta-analysis. Is that reliable? Spend time checking that. Sample size? Is this result significant? Relative and absolute results? Justifications against this topic? Are you even literate. Think about the whataboutisms, the flaws in your own reasoning, present your argument well so you don't have to rely on never playing defense. Admit you didn't consider something. realize the last four hours were in vain because the other guy just copied the first result on google. At least you read something for once.
+
+All these things get in the way of complaining all day about trans and jewish people and how they're responsible for vidya not being fun anymore on every single fucking corner of the internet. Increasingly verbose and slimy fire and forget stupidity on issues they could not know less about. MY SET of circumstances is the only righteous one. TRUST ME bro, it isn't a stretch to claim millions of people act exactly like this because I couldn't get laid in high school and now spend my time in the places like this crappy website that validate my lack of self worth.
+--- 28773259
+>>28773035
+A dixie victory would've resulted in a 3rd world country left behind by more advanced industrial nations, Africa 2
+>>hardly holding any bargaining chips for their treatment 
+They actually went on strike causing many changes to America's labor laws including the 8 hr work week, it would take a south ages to catch up.
+--- 28773284
+>>28773165
+I hear this from women all the time, from a white woman to another go outside to workout, in the hiking or mountain biking trails, even if you live in a diverse area there's always 99% white people there, you can wear whatever you want and all these problems will go away.
+--- 28773289
+>>28773168
+
+I gotta say, I don't actually care about getting checked out in a gym, it's just fun to see how many guys on here I can rile up.
+--- 28773335
+>>28773165
+I remember a girl at work once complaining about "all men" hitting on her, and I demonstrated the two ways men flirt;
+>getting in her face and hassling for her number
+>giving her a smile and a nod from across the room
+And I asked her "okay, those are the two methods of flirting. Which one do you not like?"
+She replied "the first one."
+I replied "and what kinds of men use that method, and which use the other one?" and I swear I watched her brain break right there like a nazi flag just appeared behind her eyes.
+--- 28773420
+>>28773289
+You’re a guy too
+--- 28773428
+>>28772319
+yet men somehow have discovered the technology of a plain t shirt and basketball shorts. You just want people to stare at you
+--- 28773452
+>why do men keep looking at meeeeeeeeeee
+Women are only mad because men that they deem undesirable are the ones looking at them
+--- 28773515
+>>28773428
+This.
+Women just cannot fathom that the things they are pretending to be passionate about in the 21st century, men have been doing for centuries if not millennia yet it's mansplaining or we "don't understand" if they ask for advice and don't like the advice we offer.
+--- 28773550
+>>28773515
+Let me ask you, would you enjoy being in a gay club in a black area? Cause that's what its like for women just existing everyday
+--- 28773728
+>>28773550
+>would you enjoy willingly putting yourself in a potentially dangerous situation/environment?
+No, anonnette, I wouldn't, so guess what?
+I don't.
+
+In all-white areas, you aren't at risk. You just aren't.
+But women insist on being independent girlbosses and going jogging at 3am and going backpacking in africa and ignoring every man saying "that's not a good idea" and then wondering why you're getting beheaded on facebook live.
+
+Men know that danger is a constant reality and strive to avoid it.
+Women think they are entitled to safety.
+--- 28773756
+>>28773728
+Very few women go to Africa, mostly men do. Women privately talk about getting hit on by black men we just can't say it publicly because well get killed. Its mostly men going to dangerous areas you're just hyper focused on the tiny percentage of women
+--- 28773781
+>>28773165
+
+Why don't you wanna be racist?
+
+Seriously, though.
+--- 28773794
+>>28773728
+
+The hell would I as a white woman wanna go to Africa for? Hunting?
+--- 28773827
+>>28773728
+
+Haha, I think if anything most women are overly cautious. The amount of women itt complaining about creeps is a good example of that.
+--- 28773854
+>>28773756
+>>28773794
+>these bitches don't know that morocco, tunisia and egypt are in africa, 3 destinations that EVERY woman I know has visited at least one of.
+--- 28773877
+>>28773827
+Are you kidding?
+Women will bitch about a guy looking at her arse, then go to a black nightclub in the sketchiest part of town with two other girls and get blackout drunk.
+Women are retards and only fear what the media tells them to fear.
+>being ogled in the gym?
+Terrifying
+>blacking out in a nightclub in the centre of brixton?
+You'll be fine, you're not racist are you?
+--- 28773881
+>>28773854
+
+I know that. I also know how those countries view women.
+--- 28773894
+>>28773881
+And yet every thot on ig and boomer on fb has pictures of herself in tunisia, turkey, morocco, saudi arabia, mexico, india, all shithole rapefestivals.
+--- 28773909
+>>28773854
+
+Who wants to go to Tunisia other than hardcore Star Wars nerds?
+--- 28773917
+>>28770527 (OP)
+ITT: Women being retarded
+--- 28773921
+>>28773854
+I can tell your a euro, the vast majority of Americans including women don't have a passport and have never traveled outside the US, we have plenty of tourist destinations in our own nation.
+--- 28773937
+>>28772345
+Then buy men's shorts.
+--- 28773941
+>>28773877
+The only time white girls go to black nightclubs is when NBA/NFL players are there, my city is huge on pro sports so I have seen it
+--- 28773943
+>>28773921
+
+Enough diversity in environment anyways.
+--- 28774009
+>>28773921
+>american thinks only americans use this site and gets pissy when they realise a european is in their thread.
+I hope you know how much everyone hates you.
+
+I'm quite fond of sex with fat retarded women, I'm tempted to spend a fortnight or two in the US and see how many mutt slampigs my british accent can help me impregnate to improve your gene pool a little.
+--- 28774096
+>>28774009
+The only one that got pissy is you, I'm just pointing out we have too many cultural differences to really relate like us not traveling 
+>>everyone hates you 
+Good, we love the hatred, your tears just serve to fuel us, haters are just fans anyways
+--- 28774171
+>>28774009
+>>I'm quite fond of sex with fat retarded women
+
+Not something I'd brag about.
+--- 28774291
+>>28774171
+Try it, fat dumb women are great fucks. They act like your dick ejaculates fentanyl, especially if you're half-decent looking.
+I'm fairly muscular and have the geralt hairstyle, fat dumb women love having a go with a budget henry cavill.
+Add my bong accent to that and I'd impregnate half of whichever state I'm in were I to visit the US, cos let's face it, your entire country is comprised of fat retards.
+--- 28774314
+>>28771969
+All of 4chan could change their attitudes and it still wouldn't make a dent in the male population. Monkeybrain is going to monkeybrain. You can either cry about it or get smart about it.
+--- 28774345
+>>28774291
+
+You're the ones that are so sexually repressed in your own country that you have to come over here to fuck women. The UK is overall too tired, too stressed, or too drunk to screw.
+--- 28774384
+>>28774345
+>sexually repressed
+Says an american. You can't even legally hire a hooker over there in all bit one state
+--- 28774395
+>>28772058
+The average woman just needs to be skinny and young to look good. Maybe a bit of eyelash makeup, maybe.
+The average man can't just be fit and dress well. He has to literally be born with a naturally good jaw and nose. Proof? I can guarantee you if there was a guide on the internet on how to look like Henry Caville, EVERY guy would instantly use it.
+--- 28774500
+>>28770527 (OP)
+The point of looking good is to attract a mate. Don't want to attract a mate? Don't look good. Women's whole "we want to look good for ourselves and other women" has always been fucking stupid. I know for a fact that women who wear baggy clothes and don't bother with any makeup or hair (read: the EXACT OPPOSITE of the girl in the OP's webm) get very little attention comparitively.
+
+>>28772319
+Baggy shorts and a plain T shirt are fine. If you're hot you'll still get ogled, but way less than if you wore fucking activewear.
+--- 28774518
+>>28774500
+>If you're hot you'll still get ogled
+
+Yeh, that's just how it is.
+--- 28774559
+>>28774518
+How many women are hot without using ANY makeup or clothing at all? Almost every single attractive girl I see at the gym is at least using eyelash makeup. Almost all of them wear activewear.
+--- 28774711
+good morning i hate women.
+--- 28774872
+>>28774711
+How's the weather over there in kazakhstan fren?
+--- 28775559
+>>28774559
+Me im hot
+--- 28775613
+>>28775559
+
+post pic
+--- 28775625
+>>28775613
+Dream on chud
+--- 28775632
+>>28775625
+but i can be ur future bf
+--- 28775985
+>>28775632
+Are you interested in reversal of gender roles specially in bed?
+--- 28776193
+>>28771966
+>the strongest of the five senses in people is sight
+Haha but what about smell hahaha!

adv/28770619.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770619
+Any advice how to dealing with dating and sex when you are circumcised? Would being circumcised make it more likely to get divorced?
+
+I live in the US and I am circumcised. Recently went on a date and she immediately asked me if I was intact. When she heard my answer, she laughed in my face and insulted my dry dick, saying it wouldn't work out. She was fat and ugly in the face, but even she looked at me like a freak. It seems like its getting more difficult for circumcised men to get dates even in the US. It's good for the future kids that won't get mutilated, but it sucks being treated like garbage for something I had not choice in the matter.
+--- 28770626
+circumcision is for the male mental
+it makes them more aggressive & boyish growing up
+if you notice, places that don't do it have largely timid men
+--- 28770627
+>>28770619 (OP)
+Insecurity over dick shape is not valid
+You are mentally ill
+Stop wasting thread space with your irrational bullshit.
+--- 28770630
+I gave a theory about sexual health and its correlation to divorce. Sex feels less enjoyable to a circumsized man, so he naturally bonds less to his wife through sex
+--- 28770635
+>>28770627
+A lot of women say that sex is the most important part of a relationship. What would be the point of marrying if I can't satisfy my partner and she just cheats on me.
+>>28770626
+She also mentioned that when mocking me. Said she did not want an aggressive man that would be her up
+>>28770630
+That too
+--- 28770648
+>>28770635
+when u take women literally, u lose everything u have going for urself
+she's joking with u
+women always have an ulterior motive
+--- 28770652
+>>28770648
+To boost her own ego?
+--- 28770663
+>>28770619 (OP)
+>I live in the US
+
+No you don’t faggot lol
+--- 28770670
+>>28770663
+But I do though. Tides are changing and American women love uncut now. Good for the future children, but sucks for cut men who want to raise uncut boys.
+--- 28770679
+>>28770652
+to reduce yours and/or test your aggression reaction to know if she can tease you in person without you killing her
+--- 28771445
+>>28770619 (OP)
+>Recently went on a date and she immediately asked me if I was intact.
+
+
+Department of Things That Never Happened
+--- 28772009
+>>28771445
+Happened and it does happen. A bunch of women on Twitter that make fun of circumcised men.
+--- 28772386
+>>28771445
+>>28772009
+and then everyone clapped
+--- 28772498
+>>28772386
+Cope
+--- 28772506
+>>28772498
+This is literally how she looks
+--- 28772602
+>>28772498
+>>28772506
+that just sounds like one big larp. i personally prefer cut etc but it's complicated. this person just sounds like a loud minority.
+--- 28773695
+>>28772602
+Its a real tweet
+--- 28773715
+>>28773695
+it's called cherry picking. there are men who are uncut and unruly as hell.
+--- 28773930
+>>28773715
+You think girls give a fuck? They'll shit on you regardless. I'm just trying to find out how to satisfy my partner in order to avoid divorce.
+--- 28776026
+Help me, guys!
+--- 28776062
+>>28770619 (OP)
+she sounds like a piece of shit person. im having trouble believing this is real and not bait. Ive never known anybody to have dating problems from circumcision
+--- 28776107
+>>28773930
+i'm a woman. git gud at head

adv/28770731.txt

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+-----
+--- 28770731
+My boyfriend is amazing. He's loyal honest and caring which is undeniably not easy to find. He also loves me to death. However I'm just not attracted to him anymore. I don't know what happened but the physical spark just disappeared. At this point I'm only with him because I haven't had luck dating and i don't want to spend another four years single again. I'm 31 and hitting the wall so i really need to settle Should I let him go or keep him around? Is it possible to regain that spark?
+--- 28770752
+Being alone as you hit your 40s and 50s is a dark path.
+--- 28770760
+>>28770752
+Agreed. The thing is on paper i shouldn't struggle to date since I'm decent looking and have a good job but the reality has been far more bleak. The dating market is awful.
+--- 28770770
+>>28770760
+many women in your situation settle. the alternative is anything but guaranteed, as you pointed out. it can take people a long time to actually realize life isn't a game and its not meant to be fun. and it can always get worse! i would settle with this man if i were you (i am a male, age 42 fwiw). you can always cheat if that is what you need. just be discreet.
+--- 28770782
+>>28770731 (OP)
+He's probably fat. Tell him to go to the gym. 
+>>28770770
+Kill yourself
+--- 28770785
+>>28770731 (OP)
+>Should I let him go or keep him around?
+Just leave him. If you’re not attracted to him anymore, then the relationship is fucking doomed. Sooner or later you’ll just cheat anyway and break his heart even more, so stop wasting time and go on your own paths now. Besides, it seems like you don’t love him anyway as it reads like you’ve checked out of the relationship already, honestly. 
+
+Poor fucking guy, though. Do you have BPD or something?
+--- 28770789
+>>28770785
+>Poor fucking guy, though.
+This is the reality for every guy who isn't Chad unfortunately. Worst of all OP is probably super mediocre looking but still feels this way.
+--- 28770806
+>>28770782
+>Tell him to go to the gym. 
+
+If he's overweight she's probably overweight too, because getting fat is mostly about diet and couples mostly eat the same shit. Can't realistically compensate for that in the gym. Better advice would be "fix your diet, both yours and his"
+--- 28770813
+>>28770782
+You sound like you have no idea what a relationship is. Oh he must be fat if shes lost interest in him ... because what else could it be? not one of those 100 other things.
+
+And if you idealize the fairytale perfect relationship you have the mind of a child. People can be very compatible and not have much sexual chemistry. Things are rarely ever perfect, and choices must be made.
+--- 28770820
+>>28770813
+Cope fatty
+She clearly isnt physically attracted to him
+--- 28770870
+>>28770731 (OP)
+this is the most obvious bait post I've ever seen. Anybody that uses "hitting the wall" unironically is a guy.
+--- 28770871
+>>28770820
+If the guy is just fat OP wouldn't be able to say they don't know why he's not attractive unless they're blind. Sounds more like his good boy behavior dried up her pussy.
+--- 28771078
+>>28770760
+>The thing is on paper i shouldn't struggle to date since I'm decent looking and have a good job
+>I'm 31
+
+it's not dates you need to worry about it's the fact you'll struggle finding a serious/long term relationship. think about it there's tons of 30+ yr olds who want to date and settle down but they still struggle to do so even though there's a huge dating pool of 30+ yr olds.
+--- 28771223
+>>28770870
+>this is the most obvious bait post I've ever seen. Anybody that uses "hitting the wall" unironically is a guy.
+Women who browse 4chan are known to actually use the language commonly used here. Unlike redditors who only come here to shit the place up.
+--- 28771274
+>>28771223
+How would you know? Did you see them type out the messages? Women, whether they're on 4chan or not, either hate the idea of "the wall" or don't believe in it. Also this has got all the textbook markings of bait "muh boyfriend smart and kind but not attracted to him uhhhh"
+--- 28771290
+>>28771274
+>Also this has got all the textbook markings of bait "muh boyfriend smart and kind but not attracted to him uhhhh"
+This is an extremely common sentiment around women? Just because it makes you feel threatened doesn't make it bait.
+--- 28772698
+>>28770731 (OP)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDpZusb-goA [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3ESPP3IRf8 [Embed]
+--- 28773008
+>>28770731 (OP)
+If you're not attracted to him anymore, and you don't know why, leave him. Either you'll suddenly become attracted to him once he finds another woman or you'll go off searching for a man you find attractive.
+
+>>28770760
+>I'm decent looking
+Clearly you are not. Attractive women do not have problems dating.
+
+Dating market is awful because you have a laundry list of standards that are unrealistic.
+--- 28773922
+>>28771290
+It's bait, retard
+--- 28775246
+>>28770731 (OP)
+Did he cry in front of you?

adv/28771318.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771318
+Why do normies only want to spend time with you on the condition that you drink? Why do I have to be lonely because I don't want to fuck up my health? Half of my family is dead from alcholism and I don't want to end up like that.
+--- 28771359
+>>28771318 (OP)
+Those whose social life revolves around drink are NOT normies. Find new, sober friends
+--- 28771373
+>>28771318 (OP)
+I have two close friends that hang out with me, and we never drink. We always have a great time.
+
+Find better friends.
+--- 28771389
+>>28771318 (OP)
+Drink lime soda
+--- 28771614
+>>28771318 (OP)
+Go to the event drink soda and eat fries.
+
+It's what I do.
+--- 28771695
+>>28771318 (OP)
+Because hanging out with people sober is mind numbingly boring.
+--- 28771739
+>>28771359
+Yes, they are. Normies are absolutely non-functional without alcohol.
+Normies call us autists socially awkward and then depend entirely on fucking booze to interact with one another.
+>"You're young, you should be out drinking!"
+are words I had to hear SO many times in my 20s, and now as a 40yo, they are all fat miserable fucking losers in relationships they hate with kids they resent stuck in shitty mcjobs that are killing their bodies and minds, while I'm fit and healthy building a worthwhile life and a career that will see me living off a passive income within a decade.
+
+Focus on yourself while you're younger, anon.
+--- 28771748
+>>28771359
+Literally every adult I've met since I graduated high school drinks regularly.
+--- 28772660
+>>28771739
+>>28771318 (OP)
+>Anyone who I don't like is a NORMIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
+--- 28772677
+>>28771748
+>since I graduated high school
+yeah when was that, 3 years ago?
+
+oh no noooo 23 year olds like to go to to bars and night clubs, civilization is crumbling, it never used to be like that it's because of modern cell phones abloobloo
+--- 28772688
+>>28771695
+Not true, just need to play games or dance or DO fucking anything. The real issue isn't alcohol or lack thereof, it's that people get together without any plans beyond chatting
+--- 28773954
+>>28771318 (OP)
+just take phenibut, phaggot.
+--- 28773997
+>>28771318 (OP)
+>Why do normies only want to spend time with you on the condition that you drink?
+Not true in my case, you must be doing something wrong.
+> Why do I have to be lonely because I don't want to fuck up my health?
+1. Loneliness isn't real
+2. Alcohol in such small quantities won't fuck up your health
+
+I diagnose you with: Delusional fucktard who pretends things are worse than they actually are.
+Drink bleach.
+--- 28774017
+>>28771359
+In my area they are and we have the highest rates of drunk driving in any state too, drinking is a way of life here
+--- 28774056
+>>28774017
+>>28772660
+I'm norf british. Not drinking here is like saying you're vegan 10 years ago. I've genuinely had to defend myself violently for saying "I don't really drink" while being northern british. People genuinely take offence at the very idea and assume you're a wrong'un.
+
+Yes north british people are barely human, and our underclass are genuine pondscum.
+Partly why I'm not really racist, the only white people I see are illiterate toothless alcoholic genuine vermin.
+--- 28774167
+>>28774056
+Ehh heavy drinking culture is part of white culture

adv/28771589.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771589
+Maybe there's something wrong with me but my default response to getting annoyed or frustrated is to want to smack the shit out of the person causing the annoyance. It's not even when I'm really angry, just mild annoyance is enough to warrant such feelings. I can hold back and prevent myself from hitting people but it feels like torture trying to stop myself, it's like some fight going on inside my head to stop it. How do I stop having violent impulses or is there some way I can blow off some steam and vent all that aggression?
+--- 28771628
+Don't know how strong your violent urges are anon but, as you said, you're gonna have to make an mental effort to resist it. Have you though about lifting weights, anon? Getting /fit/ might help.
+--- 28771663
+just go straight to jail, do not pass go, you have failed
+--- 28771729
+>>28771628
+I used to lift weights pretty routinely but I suppose as of recent I've been neglecting it. I guess I could do with some kind of sport to release all that negative energy.
+>>28771663
+I'm not a bad man, I don't want to have such violent thoughts anymore. I don't like them but it's like somebody just slips them into my head.
+--- 28771749
+>>28771628
+The urges are mostly to punch people or beating them up, don't think I ever get anything beyond that in terms of violence. Thing is that afterwards I feel ashamed for even thinking those thoughts, I try to be a good person but it's like my own head is trying to stop me.
+--- 28771825
+>>28771749
+To be honest i'm in the same boat as you anon. Personally i haven't found a solution to get rid of theses thoughts but, if i find someone is annoying me or fucking with me, i just tell them to cut that shit up immediately. Not in an angry way though. You can have theses thoughts on the inside but IF, on the outside you look calm and confident, that's a huge plus for me. In my opnion, least thing you want is to look intimadating and scary.
+--- 28772761
+>>28771589 (OP)
+Get ifs therapy
+--- 28772786
+>>28772761
+What does IFS therapy entail? I've never really heard of it.
+--- 28775569
+>>28771589 (OP)
+embrace it nigga.
+--- 28775646
+Fight someone who can kick your ass and become a humbled human being. Just be careful you don’t actually hurt any middle schoolers, faggot.
+--- 28775844
+>>28775646
+You're funny aren't you? I'm not actually seeking conflict, I'm getting negative thoughts and want to suppress them.
+--- 28775999
+>>28775844
+Yeah, I’m fucking hilarious. All I’m saying is, getting your ass kicked as a way to retrain the way you think about things works pretty well. Cognitive behavioral therapy would work better for multiple reasons, but I don’t assume anyone’s level of income.
+You could try to make a positivity log, that helped me get on the right path. Maybe that coupled with some self-help books would do wonders for you. Take up yoga or some martial arts too.
+--- 28776012
+i get sexual thoughts about almost everyone that i see. i dont know what to do about it except punish myself in private and pray to god
+--- 28776171
+>>28775999
+I suppose I could take up a combat sport like boxing, good way to get humbled if that works. Will definitely look into that positivity log/ self help side of things. Thanks for the advice.
+--- 28776200
+>>28776171
+Godspeed, anon. I’m a recovering asshole myself, so I feel for you. The Untethered Soul was a real eye-opening book for me.
+--- 28776450
+>>28776200
+Cheers man, if it worked for you I'll look into it. I don't want to be a violent douchebag, I just want to be a good person who helps people. Might sound silly but funnily enough I had an encounter today which helped me a bit. Some coked up black guy was starting shit with me for no reason on the street, instead of losing my cool and sinking to his level I stayed calm and just told him to keep walking. I don't like how people can be negative pricks for no real reason but I came to understand that good and bad exist in everybody and it's our decision to choose who we want to be, we aren't forced to act in either way. I gave a ten note to a beggar after that confrontation, thought if I could do something positive for someone else it could in someway counter the negativity I experienced. Like I said before, I want to be a good person and I want to help people but I know the road to becoming a better man isn't always smooth.

adv/28771612.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771612
+Yesterday evening me and my girlfriend were having sex. I'm pretty vanilla and I always thought she was too so I was rather surprised when she asked that I start slapping her. We've been together for 8 months and she's never asked for or shown any interest in stuff like this. I was a bit uncomfortable with the idea so I did it pretty soft but she kept insisting that I do it harder until I could see tears start to well in her eyes by which point I was really uncomfortable. She then started crying and apologising and so we stopped and I tried my best to comfort her and when I asked what I could do to make her feel better she asked that I don't leave her. When we woke up this morning she was very meek and apologetic rather than the fun bubbley person she normally is, and when I asked if anything was wrong she kept saying that she didn't want to talk about it.
+
+It was a strange situation which came out of no-where. She's always been very self-assured and stoic, and so seeing her act like this is alarming. I don't want to push her for an explanation, not while she's like this, but I'm really quite worried for her.
+
+What do I do?
+--- 28771619
+She's asking you to be rough with her anon. Unleash your innaler animal and fuck her hard, talk to her dirty and slap her.
+--- 28771637
+>>28771619
+But she started crying when I did do it so clearly she doesn't enjoy it, and she's always shown disdain for stuff like that saying its misogynistic.
+--- 28771692
+>>28771637
+Nope, she cried because she realized that it was something that you weren't completely into like her, so that made her feel like some kind of sexual deviant autist...
+Then she thought "oh fuck, what if he thinks I'm some kind of slutty girl or something, how could I let my horniness ruin this good thing, he's going to leave me for sure..." and started crying.
+
+IMO people who are retarded like you deserve to have shit sex, and get dumped because you don't understand humans, let alone girls. But I'll throw you a bone.
+
+Next time you see her, just fucking take her from behind. Fingers in her mouth, choke her, fuck her really hard, and whisper in her ear "what color should your collar be?" when you cum inside.
+Do this, or someone else will in 5 months when she dumps you for your shitty vanilla sex.
+--- 28772095
+>>28771637
+you have a toddlers understanding of psychology and sexuality
+--- 28772103
+>>28771612 (OP)
+she decided to be vulnerable with you for a split second and immediately sensed your confused disgust and it destroyed her. You failed.
+--- 28772179
+>>28771612 (OP)
+If she says she doesn't want to talk about it, tell her that you're okay with giving her some time to think about it and sort out her thoughts. Then when she feels comfortable, you would like to discuss it again.
+
+It's not just on you Anon. Trying out new things in the bedroom should be discussed before hand. A healthy sex life starts with good communication.
+Me and my current gf are quite adventurous, but we make sure to discuss our kinks outside of the bedroom. She's into things that I don't like and vise versa.
+It might also be a good idea to have a good look at your kinks and fetishes. Maybe you are just vanilla and you should be honest about that with her.
+--- 28772252
+>>28772179
+Alright, I'll try approaching her about it. Thanks for advice.
+
+>>28772103
+I'm not against the idea of experimenting, but I think it was just so out-of-character that I really didn't know what to do. She's always been really prudish. In all the time we've been together she's never expressed any interest in anything like that and has previously resisted any ideas I've proposed.
+--- 28772279
+>>28771612 (OP)
+She has BPD. Leave her.
+--- 28772743
+>>28772252
+>I think it was just so out-of-character
+She recognized that you viewed this act of vulnerability as "out of character" and realized that meant that you didn't know her nearly as well as she thought you did, which understandably made her upset.
+>She's always been really prudish
+>she's never expressed any interest in anything like that 
+You need to understand that speaking and verbally expressing comprises >30% of how people communicate. As her partner it's your job to understand her implicitly on some level, and the same goes for her. That's what dating is all about, building a relationship in which your partner understands the things about yourself you cannot express.
+>has previously resisted any ideas I've proposed
+There's a high likelihood you're misremembering this or over exaggerating her response.
+--- 28772764
+>>28772252
+i highly recommend discussion, and then when the time calls, establish "im not gonna hold back, but i need you to say something if you feel things are going too far." nothing wrong with trying new things so long as you ensure that safety is top priority.
+maybe state your surprise? "i might be oblivious, but this was out of left field for me. its not bad, i was just surprised and didnt know what limits were or if she was okay. it sounds like she needs reassurance of some kind, but no ones a mind reader, not even with partners.
+--- 28772779
+>>28771612 (OP)
+Many women love that stuff. You sound like a faggot. I'll fuck your girlfriend for you.
+--- 28773609
+>>28771612 (OP)
+Ask her what's wrong.
+--- 28774305
+>>28771692
+wow a dom who knows what he’s talking about *eyes emoji*
+--- 28774309
+>>28772743
+> As her partner it's your job to understand her implicitly on some level, and the same goes for her. That's what dating is all about, building a relationship in which your partner understands the things about yourself you cannot express.
+
+Wow a guy who gets it.
+--- 28776258
+Ignore the other retards in the thread and listen to >>28772179 and >>28772764. Communication is key. Make sure you know each others positions fully, the last thing you want to be doing is unfufilling her needs or putting yourself into situations you're unhappy with just because you aren't talking about what you want from the relationship.

adv/28771760.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771760
+PSA for Men
+
+Make sure you have sex in your early twenties. If you don’t you’ll suffer lasting damage. I’m in my 30s, I got my first girl at 29. And I’ve had several since then. And sex is a major issue for me. I have no doubt that being sexless during my whole 20s caused some damage
+--- 28771776
+>>28771760 (OP)
+Not having sex doesn't cause damage, don't be vague and tell us what problems you ran into.
+--- 28771815
+>>28771776
+I got my first gf when I was 29, and since then i've had 3 others. I can not enjoy sex. It has never been a good experience for me. I have no doubt that not having sex cause damage and I'm unable to enjoy it. My peers all started having sex in their early twenties and they say they still love it in their 30s. 
+
+not physical damage, but mental damage. It can not be mentally healthy for a male to have all this pent up testostrone and seuxal energy during his 20s but never use it. It is unhealthy for the mind. It doesn't matter if all of a sudden he starts doing it in his 30s. There is damage that exists
+--- 28771820
+>>28771815
+I think you're jumping to conclusions too quickly, none of this rules out the possibility of bad sex. What did the girls try with you but fail to work?
+--- 28771822
+i had gay sex
+great success
+--- 28771828
+>>28771820
+>none of this rules out the possibility of bad sex
+having bad sex with 4 girls all in a row is very very unlikely. I've asked people this and everyone says "bad sex with a gf/bf doesn't happen". 
+>what did the girls try with you but fail to work?
+I don't even know what you're asking
+>>28771822
+>gay sex
+thats already a mental illness. So you're just proving my point
+--- 28771842
+>>28771828
+>having bad sex with 4 girls all in a row is very very unlikely. I've asked people this and everyone says "bad sex with a gf/bf doesn't happen". 
+Then they're lying to you or have low standards of sex, the sheer number of people in existence makes multiple instances of bad partners a plausibility and is a notable problem among the rise of dating apps and promiscuity.
+>I don't even know what you're asking
+I'm asking what did those women do to help you enjoy sex and why that didn't work.
+--- 28771846
+>>28771815
+Nope, had sex at 23 and never cun from it op, 3 different girls, all attractive.
+some people just don't like it.
+I know what you mean though, I just think not having it in your 20s wasn't the cause.
+--- 28771863
+>>28771842
+>Then they're lying to you or have low standards of sex, the sheer number of people in existence makes multiple instances of bad partners a plausibility and is a notable problem among the rise of dating apps and promiscuity.
+Both guys and girls have told me if you have a bf someone who you truly care about, sex is never bad
+>I'm asking what did those women do to help you enjoy sex and why that didn't work.
+i don't see how specific acts are even relevant. Sex is not enjoyable. It feels unnatural. It feels wrong and i feel regret everytime. 
+>>28771846
+>23
+everything you're saying is irrelevant. 
+
+there is no way its healthy for a man to go 10+ years without any sexual contact. Especially as a man in his prime physical years with high levels of sex hormones. That is not healthy for the brain.
+--- 28771904
+>>28771863
+>Both guys and girls have told me if you have a bf someone who you truly care about, sex is never bad
+Oh lord, no wonder you think something is wrong with you, they've been selling you fairy tale cope. Love doesn't translate to good sex on its own, if you lack skills and can't make your partner feel good, it's gonna suck no matter how much you care about them. 
+>i don't see how specific acts are even relevant. Sex is not enjoyable. It feels unnatural. It feels wrong and i feel regret everytime. 
+Alright we're getting somewhere now, so what about it feels unnatural and regretful to you?
+--- 28771917
+>>28771904
+it just doesn't feel natural. I don't know how to explain that any further. it seems very unnatural.
+--- 28771938
+>>28771917
+What specifically feels unnatural? It's literally the most natural thing next to eating. The regret is an internal thing. Why should you regret what is natural?
+It sounds like you have some unhealthy mental hangups with sex you need to get over- likely internalized guilt due to how you see yourself or religious beliefs that told you "sex bad".
+> Both guys and girls have told me if you have a bf someone who you truly care about, sex is never bad
+This isn't true, at all. You can have great intimacy and terrible sex. 
+They do have training videos you can watch if you literally have no idea what to do physically, but it sounds like you have some shit to unpack / get over.
+--- 28771941
+>>28771917
+Nothing ever just "is", it comes from somewhere so let's back up and look to the past. What were your views of sex prior to having it and did you ever use porn for masturbation?
+--- 28771964
+>>28771938
+>What specifically feels unnatural? It's literally the most natural thing next to eating. The regret is an internal thing. Why should you regret what is natural?
+>It sounds like you have some unhealthy mental hangups with sex you need to get over- likely internalized guilt due to how you see yourself or religious beliefs that told you "sex bad".
+I'm not religious and didn't have the meme "religious upbringing". 
+>>28771941
+I thought about nonstop every single day. If I saw an attractive woman with my real eyes I could start leaking precum I was so horny all the time. That was my entire 20s. 
+
+as I said to you both. a man not having sex for 10+ years is not healthy. it causes damage.
+--- 28771986
+>>28771964
+>a man not having sex for 10+ is not healthy. it causes damage 
+Idk about that. I don’t want to seek sex specially because it makes me desperate.
+--- 28771989
+>>28771964
+>I thought about nonstop every single day. If I saw an attractive woman with my real eyes I could start leaking precum I was so horny all the time. That was my entire 20s. 
+
+Then that's probably a good lead on why you have this problem. You let your imagination run wild with the idea of sex that it likely led to you holding some unrealistic expectations on what that would be like. Now that you finally got it, it didn't align with your expectations and it may have caused an adverse effect. You were already led astray with ideas of love magically making sex good, so tell us what kind of thoughts you had to see if they aren't also unaligned with reality.
+--- 28772005
+>>28771989
+>Then that's probably a good lead on why you have this problem. You let your imagination run wild with the idea of sex that it likely led to you holding some unrealistic expectations on what that would be like. Now that you finally got it, it didn't align with your expectations and it may have caused an adverse effect. You were already led astray with ideas of love magically making sex good
+Again, a man not having sex during his peak prime years when he's full of testostérone is not healthy for the mind. 
+>>28771986
+see above
+--- 28772013
+>>28771989
+>You were already led astray with ideas of love magically making sex good, so tell us what kind of thoughts you had to see if they aren't also unaligned with reality.
+first off. "Pussy is the best thing in the entire world". i also had a casual hook up because people told me sex is just great in general. and that was equally as bad. I have never had the experiences my peers have had. Everyone says sex makes you feel warm and happy, and that its the greatest thing. I have never experienced this
+--- 28772019
+>>28772005
+No, you are deliberately ignoring your mindset and how that plays a role into whether it makes sex good or not. I know people who stayed virgins until their 30s and didn't have trouble enjoying sex later in life.
+--- 28772042
+>>28772005
+Idk anon. I 22 and I would like to think I’d lose my virginity within 2 years max but it’s not really that easy even with unattractive women. Fat women are off the table completely because I can’t stand their unhealthiness.
+--- 28772077
+>>28772019
+>No, you are deliberately ignoring your mindset and how that plays a role into whether it makes sex good or not. I know people who stayed virgins until their 30s and didn't have trouble enjoying sex later in life.
+>mindset
+>not realizing that forgoing sex for so many years as a male damages the mind
+That is the whole issue.
+>I know people who stayed virgins until their 30s and didn't have trouble enjoying sex later in life.
+They are lying. They definitely have issues they are not telling you about
+>>28772042
+i understand. But do something about it so you don't end up like me
+--- 28772219
+>>28772077
+I feeling more confident and better about myself which is good. I’m trying to develop a regular workout routine, just a matter of seeing what works best and what I should expect. 2nd time rock climbing this weekend, first time outdoors and I loved it. Relationship/sex isn’t the reason why I do these things but I do think it’s helpful. Seems that most of the attractive women I meet are either in a relationship or not interested in sex or relationships.
+--- 28772287
+>>28772219
+>I’m trying to develop a regular workout routine, just a matter of seeing what works best and what I should expect. 2nd time rock climbing this weekend, first time outdoors and I loved it
+good
+>Relationship/sex isn’t the reason why I do these things
+good
+>Seems that most of the attractive women I meet are not interested in sex or relationships
+unfortuently they are lying to you when they say this. What they mean is they aren't attracted to you. But for the right guy, yes they are open to sex and/or a relationship. I grew up with chad friends and i've witnessed this many times
+--- 28772306
+>>28772287
+Well in case of already having a bf, no because I hear them talking about him and then also see photos on facebook of them. That’s the only social media I have.
+--- 28772321
+>>28772306
+single women lie when they say they don't want sex or a relationship. They do for the right guy
+--- 28772405
+You probably just need to get comfortable doing it. People nowadays go through 100s of partners before they find someone they like, you've just started this process. You think of yourself as a 29 yo but you're actually a 14-15 year old when it comes to sex, you have 15 years of learning about sex and what you like and don't
+--- 28772434
+>>28772405
+>You probably just need to get comfortable doing it. People nowadays go through 100s of partners before they find someone they like, you've just started this process. You think of yourself as a 29 yo but you're actually a 14-15 year old when it comes to sex, you have 15 years of learning about sex and what you like and don't
+most people know right away they enjoy sex. It might not be perfect, but they enjoy it and want to keep doing it. All of my friends first starting having sex around 18, and they were always excited to keep doing it. they never felt the way I do about it.
+--- 28772493
+>>28771760 (OP)
+I'm not throwing 29 years of effort down the garbage because some loser's obsession with sex. I'm going to become a Wizard and that's that.
+--- 28772532
+>>28772321
+>single women lie
+this needs to be said because women lie about how much they lie. I guess their biggest lie is pretending to be honest.
+--- 28772771
+>>28772321
+And then a girl I had talked to previously rejected me and I may know for certain the full picture because I may not ever get the chance to talk to her again.
+--- 28773086
+>>28772532
+thats how many are
+--- 28774755
+>>28771760 (OP)
+i never had sex...
+--- 28775469
+>>28774755
+why not?

adv/28771768.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771768
+Hi /adv/,
+
+My partner of almost 10 years just started taking SSRI's. they had been in therapy for a few years and they have been recommended to my partner from time to time during the course of the treatment.
+
+Eventually, the therapist wrote a letter to my partners GP doctor recommending them, and that seemed to be the trigger to start them.
+
+I consider myself a strong minded and confident individual, and i always assured my partner i was here to support and do everything i could to try help without the need for drugs, which i see as a once you start you cant stop kinda scenario.
+
+i understand that some people do need them to restore chemical balances, etc etc. to be honest, i was fine with getting them until i saw the box infront of my face.
+
+once i saw the box, the realisation came crashing down on me, and have basically been an emotional wreck the past few weeks. 
+
+i have a few concerns, how is it going to change my partner? I have always considered feelings of sadness and anxiety a normal part of existence. i think its healthy to feel these things to some degree, it shows you are a human who can worry about things and therefore improve. my partner has never been truly debilitated by it from my perspective, so i just dont get it.
+
+i feel like i havent been able to provide my partner adequate support, like a bit of a failure to a degree. why would my partner need these, especially if its never truly been debilitating ie. stopped going to work, etc. what have i NOT been doing to help?
+
+arguably the most important, we have been trying to start a family and theres been fertility issues. i get this is a major contributor (especially as the problems seem to lie with my partner), but i am worried that once we are able to finally get pregnant (whether it be natural or IVF), whats the effect on the baby? the drug companies claim their safe, but i have a hard time believe that SSRI's in a bloodstream wont affect the baby. raising the kid?
+
+Am i an asshole?
+--- 28773594
+>>28771768 (OP)
+>which i see as a once you start you cant stop kinda scenario.
+Nah it's not hard to come off them. You are only supposed to go on them for a few months
+
+Why do you want to have a kid with someone that is contemplating suicide? Majority of suicides happen after a big life event
+--- 28773673
+>>28771768 (OP)
+You very clearly have never been severely depressed and should not be trying to control someone else’s healing process. Don’t be the person trying to give someone vitamin C to a person with brain cancer. There is a reason doctors go through like 10 years of intense training. Please do not mistake your Google search for someone else’s medical degree
+--- 28773766
+>>28771768 (OP)
+>have always considered feelings of sadness and anxiety a normal part of existence
+Normalfags have it so easy
+--- 28773835
+>>28771768 (OP)
+The fact that you keep referring to her as your partner is the first red flag that you're another retard. So ssris have no better effect than placebo. There's one I think called Wellbutrin that hit some other receptors but the ssris are no better than placebo. And there are Placebo with side effects. Before it became commonplace for people to take drugs, the standard advice for anyone getting pregnant was to take no drugs at all not even caffeine.
+
+The idea of a chemical imbalance is 100% marketing from pharmaceutical companies. There are absolutely no studies that demonstrate any sort of chemical imbalance in the brain. So your approaching this from a pharmaceutical company marketing point of view and you appear to have, like a good boy, memorized some of their marketing propaganda.
+
+It's not possible to say how it will change your partner. Sexual dysfunction is a big one with ssris both for males and females. If your partner has been in therapy for a few years, then the question becomes how is their diet and how is their exercise. Has the therapist suggested a higher protein diet with more exercise? All of these ssris increase the reuptake of serotonin. Serotonin is not produced from carbohydrate. All of the neurotransmitters are produced from protein. And then there's acetylcholine which is produced from choline which is not quite a protein but might as well be because it's structural as well as a precursor to a neurotransmitter. So if this therapist over many years has suggested ssris multiple times but hasn't suggested a personal trainer or looking at diet, and I mean looking at diet with a fitness person, I don't need looking at diet with some f****** doughy woman. If that's never been suggested then your partner is being paddled down the river.
+--- 28773865
+>>28771768 (OP)
+I am really big on getting enough protein because I know it makes me feel better. I also know a lot of women who I've had relationships with and I've just always had female friends. I like chatting and frankly I find women are better at chatting. Anyway, every single woman who complains to me about how she's not feeling so well she doesn't have enough energy she's this she's that, I ask well how much protein do you eat? And they all say oh well I eat enough. And then I ask well do you eat candy? And most of them will say oh yeah I have some candy. And when we get down to it on average they're having $200 to 400 calories of candy or cookies a day. So that's like 50 to 100 grams of protein. So I tell them why don't you substitute protein for that candy. Just have a protein shake or two. And every single one of them who's done it has come back to me and said wow I can't believe how much better I feel. None of them have reported feeling worse. But this is not the advice you're going to get from a therapist or a doctor or some dough ball dietitian who says oh yes girlfriend Candy's part of the healthy diet. Oh I'm a chocoholic myself you know I got to have that chocolate girlfriend you know what I mean? Where is any competent trainer would say well if you have to have it maybe one day a week you can have one of those protein bars with chocolate in it but you shouldn't be eating candy or chocolate, it's not healthy. There's literally an entire industry dedicated to helping women who don't eat properly go to therapy and take drugs.
+
+So if you've been with her for nearly a decade, what's her diet like? What is she eat in an average day? What did she eat yesterday? Does she eat eggs and drink milk? Does she eat fatty fish like salmon?
+--- 28775766
+OP here, had to sleep.
+
+>>28773594
+well, this is part of why im so distraught. clearly, i didnt realise whats going on and she didnt felt comfortable to tell me. obviously im worried about postpartum depression etc, let alone the potential affects on the child. i love her, and we have been trying for a long time now.
+
+>>28773673
+>>28773766
+
+no i havent ever been clinically depressed, which is why i am so confused by this whole situation. i get its a legitimate therapy. but its not like youre prescribing some anti biotics here, these are serious drugs for serious mood disorders.
+
+>>28773835
+>>28773865
+i tried to say partner to de identify the post but youre right that was retarded. you guys clearly identified im the male. i tried to numb the post a bit like i was posting on reddit or something.
+
+personally, i dont believe the chemical imbalance stuff much either. the first question i asked myself was, wheres the quantitive data that proves this drug would work for her? all the therapist can jot dot is qualitative observations. that doesnt actually reveal the chemical balances of your brain.
+
+she is vit D deficient but she takes a multi most days, and eats what i eat. we have plenty of protein, typical aussie meat and 2/3 veg for dinner almost every night. steak, whole chicken breast, eggs, milk all in there. she does snack a bit sometimes but i wouldnt say its unhealthy amount.
+--- 28775804
+>>28775766
+Well if she's vitamin D deficient there you go. A multivitamin won't have enough to correct that. But if you're in Australia isn't their son all year round? If she's had her vitamin D level tested and it's deficient, she needs to get that up and then she might feel better. But what do you mean by plenty of protein?
+--- 28775892
+>>28775766
+>she is Vitamin D deficient
+>doctors prescribe her SSRIs instead of prescribing high-strength Vitamin D
+You have a duty to make sure she never sees these vampires again.
+--- 28776031
+>>28775804
+>>28775892
+yes, theres plenty of sun here, but that might not be the only factor. as i understand it, vitamin d deficiency affects a lot of women for various reasons.
+
+How can i even approach this subject? How am i going to contravene the advice of two people who have been through medical school? so far, my idea is to wait a few months and see how it works and the side affects, and then maybe put my foot down if i dont like what i see or if theres little report of improvement. i think shes at the point where she really wants to try them aswell, so i will come accross and a bigot in her eyes if i try stop the course before the 2-4 week period where they have effects.
+--- 28776039
+>>28775892
+Correlation is not causation. She might have separate medical problems, idiot.
+--- 28776071
+>>28776039
+yes, there are separate medical problems. im not going to detail them, but ive already stated there are fertility issues on her side. which has had hormonal implications, which has more implications...etc

adv/28771791.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771791
+well generally is it okay and if so are you expected to give a big fat tip if you do? like it's after 5 am and I feel like using it, I have used it at like 3 in the morning before, somebody almost always picks up my order and thus I don't have to really worry about anything like that.
+--- 28771809
+>>28771791 (OP)
+dont trust pajeets with your food, dear fucking lord dont do this.
+--- 28771829
+>>28771809
+why?
+--- 28771830
+I got two white women, a filipino guy, two indians i think one guy was persian, three chinese guys
+--- 28771833
+oh and there was a mexican guy
+--- 28771839
+>>28771829
+their hygiene sucks
+--- 28771851
+>>28771839
+doesn't really answer my question, i don't think they directly handle the food too much though
+--- 28771864
+fuck i just made another order for some pop and chips
+--- 28771866
+>>28771851
+they handle the packaging, they put in their filthy death trap cars and give it to you. If they're feeling extra devious, they can even do shit like put their dick in it and close it back up and you won't have a clue. Don't be a lazy fuck, go to the place and get the food yourself.
+--- 28771876
+If it wasn't ok it wouldn't be an option. The drivers aren't driving around with a gun to their head so i'd pay and treat them the same no matter what the time of day is.
+--- 28771881
+i just feel bad I ordered some chips and pop from a gas station, it's over across this big bridge, it's not too far away though, but I feel bad because it's a little after 6 am, like who wakes up that early just for doordash just so they can make this type of delivery?
+--- 28771891
+>>28771866
+ a lot of the time, the store that makes the food puts it in a package that can't easily be opened or tampered with by the deliverer.
+--- 28772249
+>>28771809
+>>28771839
+I can get food delivered to me in 20 minutes from across the city by a sweaty paki who risks his life for a 3 Dhs tip, all sealed nicely with stickers and handed to me in their carrier bag to prove they didn't even touch it, because they know if I reported any serious offence, they'd be walking on a thin ice of deportation.
+Comfy and no need to worry about hygiene. You can trust them anywhere outside of their homeland
+--- 28772455
+I hate that I can identify 99% of trannies here just by thumbnail
+--- 28772464
+>>28771809
+Theres no pajeets where I live
+--- 28772474
+using food apps at all is decadence. just go get it or go to bed
+--- 28772497
+>>28771791 (OP)
+People who use food apps are truly the next stage of decadent sloths but yeah it's ok to do it at 5am because there's like no orders going on then and it's hard to find any work as a doordasher, other than niggers who want you to drive 30 minutes and then don't leave a tip
+give a normal tip or even add an extra dollar and you will make someone's day
+--- 28773176
+Well I just don't feel like walking sometime, I live in a gigantic city that is very spread out, I don't always feel like walking 30 fucking minutes just to get food. I need a car now but it's complicated as to why I don't have one. It's honestly really fun ordering door dash.
+--- 28773501
+>>28771791 (OP)
+stop wasting money on that shit
+--- 28773860
+>>28773501
+why?
+--- 28776170
+>>28772455
+I love Natalie so much.
+--- 28776207
+>>28776170
+Kill yourself.
+--- 28776265
+>>28773860
+because you're spending hundreds a month on unhealthy food and you most likely have debt and are behind on retirement.
+--- 28776269
+>>28776170
+>No budge
+>hit the wall
+useless

adv/28771912.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771912
+I clogged the shower by pooping in it and washing it down the drain.
+
+What do I do? I live in an apartment and I think I'm going to get in lots of trouble
+--- 28772132
+>>28771912 (OP)
+What have you tried? Where is it clogged? Can you poke it with a long stick? Do you have a plunger? Do you have drain cleaner? If the water drains slowly, you could try putting liquid soap over it and pouring boiling water after it.
+--- 28772360
+>>28771912 (OP)
+whats wrong with you
+--- 28772375
+Kek just like that fatty from the greentext who used to shit in the shower then use the communal jaccuzzi to clean his arse
+--- 28772450
+>>28771912 (OP)
+Sulfuric acid.
+It's cheap and unclogs pretty much anything in a couple of hours.
+--- 28772456
+>>28771912 (OP)
+Use those unclog solutions at the drug store or supermarket.
+--- 28772465
+>>28772456
+for sure, get the extra strength bottle of Shitt-o-Uncloggo, it works every time
+--- 28773823
+>>28772375
+excuse me what
+--- 28776182
+>>28771912 (OP)
+Try a plunger. Don’t be aggressive with it. Start gently, then apply a little more force if necessary.
+
+Since it’s biological, you can also try the baking soda solution method. Search online for the recipe.
+--- 28776235
+>>28776182
+>baking soda solution method
+what
+just buy a bottle of drain cleaner. it's literally what they use to dissolve bodies.
+>>28772450
+strong acid will fuck up the pipes. you want a strong base.
+--- 28776254
+>>28773823
+It does the rounds on fph threads on /fit/, a counsellor anon had a client who was really fat and admitted to shitting in his shower then using the jets of the communal spa pool to wash his arse because he was too fat to use a toilet and reach his own arsehole to wipe it.
+Counsellor anon was saying "do I have to maintain confidentiality when he is literally endagering people's health?"
+Long story short he reported this to the apartment block's owner and fatty was evicted.
+--- 28776268
+>>28776254
+sounds like a made up story
+--- 28776290
+>>28776268
+>america exists
+Does it anon?
+Does it really sound made up?
+Are you sure?
+--- 28776312
+>>28776290
+It sounds made up because these "fat hate" people are strange and obsessed, especially the /fit/fags. Normal people don't have these wacky first hand stories of ultra fat people doing outrageous things. When I see an episode of my two ton life, I laugh at it, but it makes those people furious for some reason.

adv/28771940.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771940
+i got addicted to drill music. I think their clothing style and videos are cool, and for some reason the lyrics resonate with me despite being a fat white guy that grew up in the suburbs. but i feel very self conscious about enjoying this music. how do i stop?
+--- 28773736
+bump
+--- 28773744
+We don't want you back anon, you're black now.
+--- 28773830
+>>28773744
+thats fucked up cuh.. black people do be bussin tho frfr
+--- 28775831
+bump
+--- 28775878
+bump
+--- 28775898
+>>28771940 (OP)
+Who gives a fuck what music you listen to, you like what you like. For me my guilty pleasure is young thugger and future and atlanta trap rappers
+--- 28775920
+>>28775898
+i cant tell anyone about my musical tastes because they will listen to the lyrics and its all about fucking women, shooting other nigs, and stacking money. im a white nerd irl
+--- 28775933
+>>28775920
+who gives a fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck bro
+Its not like youre a musician your music taste isnt your identity its probably just shit you listen to while ur driving or working or chilling. It doesnt define you I cant lie some of these nig raps be litty fr
+--- 28776051
+Smoke weed then put on music you want to like, you have to be genuinely interested in it beforehand for it to work. It will just make you love it more.
+--- 28776060
+>>28775933
+yeah thats true, ill try to be less ashamed of myself
+
+>>28776051
+i ran out of weed but ill smoke some of the resin and listen to some 80s pop

adv/28771981.txt

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+-----
+--- 28771981
++25 anons, why do you keep coming to 4chan?
+
+I'm +30. Been here a long time. God, this place has gotten so negative and young. So much advice is coming from angry teenagers. 
+
+I don't really know why I bother. Sometimes like the 5th reply will be from another adult. But most stuff is just from bitter angry kids. Its staggering how far this place has fallen. 
+
+and omg if I have to read another simple question answered with a paragraph about kikes and trannies, holy shit.
+--- 28772014
+>>28771981 (OP)
+I have no better way to fake having at least some connection to people. It's something my brain wants, but I'm not in the position to get it. It's not even a self-esteem issue, there's just no way to actually meet people.
+--- 28772023
+>>28771981 (OP)
+Mostly for the lulz. Normie social media is too tame, coddled and regulated. At least here we can say whatever and post almost anything.
+--- 28772068
+>>28771981 (OP)
+Yeah it's pretty bad, sometimes I consider just leaving this place behind permanently but something about the major social media hubs are just so sterile and insincere in their own way. The slower boards are still decent for the most part, /adv/ I just feel morally obligated to provide some decent advice among the shitshow so that people don't leave totally embittered. /v/ can be pretty alright for discussion once a game actually drops. Maybe the answer is to leave the internet more, but who can say?
+--- 28772288
+I'm 31 and I keep coming back because so much of the bitter, cynical advice I've gotten here from 25+ year-olds has ended up being spot on. It makes me feel like there's one last corner of western culture I can turn to for some genuine understanding from likeminded people, even if I have to sift through 99 shitposts for 1 good one. I guess it's a bit like a support group in that sense. There are so many opportunities in the modern world to get ostracized for merely stating your opinion, it feels good to have a place where you can say "jesus fucking christ all these faggots just need to shut the fuck up" without getting downvoted or banned.
+--- 28772315
+>>28772288
+>it feels good to have a place where you can say "jesus fucking christ all these faggots just need to shut the fuck up" without getting downvoted or banned.
+i'll still call you a fucking loser tho.
+also god motherfucking damn americans need to shut the fuck up already, just because your racist ass culture is suddenly anti racism doesn't mean the rest of the world needs to experience fucking racism withdrawal
+--- 28772317
+39yo boomer here.
+
+4chan is the only place I can find honesty online.
+There is no genuine discussion anywhere else.
+Even places like Gab where it's a bit freer speech-wise, it's just grifters trying to make money or feed their narcissism. 4chan is just anons throwing shit, and sometimes that shit is hilarious or even informative.
+--- 28772323
+It's one of the few places I know of where you can in fact discuss anything in any context and there will always be someone willing to argue back, even if every sentence starts with "you're a retard".
+Though I feel like having an actual conversation gets harder as time goes by.
+--- 28772335
+Where else am I supposed to go? Facebook? Instagram?
+If anything, it makes sense 30+ people still use 4chan, as it's still a pretty pre-web 2.0 site. It still has the basic structure of the old japanese 2chan. It's anonymous and doesn't have social media connectivity, good enough for me.
+So if anything, what's strange is why young people come here, they should be at tiktok and what not. If young people choose to use such an website as 4chan, it's because there's something failing in modern social media, something that gives them anxiety.
+4chan might be negative, but that's but a reflection of the rest of the internet/society in general, not something inherent to 4chan per se. People here can express themselves freely without any associated account.
+--- 28772351
+I fell ill when I was 22 now I'm back, the negativity escalated though, no idea why.
+Just stop using social media and other garbage for lesser mortals.
+--- 28772435
+almost 30 and i was introduced to it by my ex who probably still browses. i'm also annoyed by others fucking up my relationship with him so there's that. i like that there's no face attached when i post here because of creepers/jellybeans.
+--- 28772458
+Every other site has the mentality "Adults shouldn't correct teenagers whining and ranting, there's a power imbalance"
+
+Here people like to pretend this site is only for under 30s but they still have to shut the fuck up and take a flaming like everyone else
+--- 28772491
+Because I'm still a repulsive virgin, and this is the only place left where I have some sort of unfiltered social contact.
+I used to think I wouldn't have ended up a wizard, and yet I'm just a couple years away. The suicidal thoughts are stronger than ever, but this site makes them quieter.
+You guys are keeping me alive.
+--- 28772540
+>>28771981 (OP)
+I got book advice for Blood Meridian; best book Ive ever read.
+I recently got VG advice for Octopath, pretty good.
+
+So I come here cause theres some nuggets. But jesus is there a river of shit to get to them, I think ima come less
+--- 28772566
+Sometimes I get bored. But I rarely come here now. It's not worth sifting through all the garbage to find something interesting.
+--- 28772576
+>>28771981 (OP)
+Like this guy >>28772335 said, I ain't going to facebook. 
+I grew up here. There's nowhere else where you can just talk. On every other site, everything you post is linked to your google ID, social security number, real name, blood type, and DNA, and recorded forever. Fuck that. I'd rather deal with this place.
+
+>>28772540
+Ah I bought that one a couple days ago, but opening to random pages just looked like people shooting each other randomly. Maybe there's a method to the madness. Just finished The Stranger which is very 4chan, I'm sure Camus had something different in mind but the whole book read to me like the description of an autist from this site. Right now I'm on Into The Wild, which is good, about the crazy guy that died in the school bus in Alaska.
+--- 28772581
+Im too used to the benefits of being anonymous to be willing to give them up.
+--- 28772586
+>>28772458
+>Here people like to pretend this site is only for under 30s
+
+I'm 31 and almost always people were older than me here. I started browsing when Red was announced for that Smash game, 2007 or 2008 or so.
+--- 28772608
+>>28771981 (OP)
+>+25 anons, why do you keep coming to 4chan?
+>I'm +30
+Why do you reinforce the meme that 25 is old/mature? I'm nearly 40 and I look back on my 25s with the same cringe that I do my 15s or something, it's the EXACT same know-it-all arrogance that we had as kids except that at that age we roleplay as le mature man usually to a fault.
+
+25 year olds are busy getting drunk at night clubs and/or getting mad at their video games, they're not smoking pipes in a rocking chair while reading classic literature.
+--- 28772678
+>>28771981 (OP)
+For the memes. Been around since day 1 (30s). Yeah, this generation is truly pathetic. Even if you offer good advice, they will not take it. They'll make a laundry list of excuses why they cannot achieve something, then blame society or the generations prior for their inability to succeed. They're fucked. Don't waste your time reading such posts.
+--- 28772694
+>>28772678
+>blame society or the generations prior for their inability to succeed
+I think it's disingenuous to not recognize that past generations [Boomers] fucked things up royally without regard for the future, and society has genuinely reached a point, at least in the Western world, where things are hopelessly polarized. A lot of men feel actively discriminated against or disadvantaged, which is a real problem considering that they're the ones who usually violently chimp out when that goes on for too long.
+--- 28772704
+I just like remaining anonymous even if I hardly ever say anything controversial. Also 4chan has a certain "lootbox" quality about it; most of the time it's shit but once in a blue moon you find gold
+--- 28772837
+>>28772694
+>A lot of men feel actively discriminated against or disadvantaged, which is a real problem considering that they're the ones who usually violently chimp out when that goes on for too long.
+
+maybe things will get better when generations after Z don't know things could be better.
+
+I'm kind of surprised more Gen X and Yers don't chimp out. They saw things being better for the Greatest generation and boomers. They knew a good 20, 30 years where everything wasn't about race and kikes. 
+
+Take a show like Family Matters. Does that show even make sense to Gen Z? The whole joke of Steve Urkel was he was like this smart nerd that was socially inept and couldn't get the girl he wanted. Now pretty normal guys have the same problems Steve Urkel had, but they aren't nerds. They're not weird looking or smart. They're just guys. 
+
+Or similiar, the show Daria. I remember talking about that show on /co/ and some zoomer thought Daria was a cool hipister and couldn't figure out why she was a bitch. It was completely lost on them that in the 90s, she was a loser. 
+
+So many of Gen Z are losers, they don't even understand ugly duckling / outsider plot devices. 
+
+A more obvious example is fat humor. There was a time when ralph cramden was a hot headed fatty. But now gen Y just reads him as a wife better and doesn't even pick up on his weight being funny. Why, because so many of them are as fat or fatter than he was.
+--- 28772892
+>>28772586
+>I'm 31 and almost always people were older than me here.
+Agreed, everyone who was here in the pedobear days knows there were always genX on this site
+
+It's only the post 2016 trump train idiots that think it's supposed to be for children exclusively
+--- 28773387
+>>28772837
+Gen z has incels and weeks to look down on though
+--- 28773918
+28, I'm still a lonely, depressed anxiety ridden neet that has nothing going in his life. I have six pack abs, but never kissed a girl in my life. I don't go out, only to bike. This place feels like a refuge for me I don't know why. Probably because it's filled with genuine people that don't have to "behave" like they have to on reddit. I like the raw unfiltered minds that post here. I could get a job, I could become more social, but my nihilistic worldview always brings me down and tells me that everything, no matter what I do, it will create new problems, a girlfriend will become normal just like me sitting in front of the computer is normal. I have no ambitions, no purpose, no meaning in my life. 
+ 
+I tried getting help, but there is none. They put me on meds, told me to get therapy but there are no spots anywhere. I called everywhere, went everywhere in person everywhere did some old ugly hag tell me that they're full at the reception. You always hear "Get professional help", but they never tell you how. Or that they are all hopelessly overflown. 
+
+
+I lost all hope.
+--- 28773969
+>>28771981 (OP)
+I don't know, whenever I'm procrastinating I just open this website without even realizing it, even though it's a waste of time and I gain nothing from it. It's like an automatic reflex.
+--- 28774015
+>>28771981 (OP)
+People here barely maintain any kind of filter, which makes their opinion carry more weght. Granted, almost always it's some rant against jews, women or trannies, but from time to time you find useful and complex point of views that you wouldn't find any other place.
+--- 28774818
+>>28772837
+>. Now pretty normal guys have the same problems
+No not really, incels are losers and epic virgins are all that for specific reason actually.
+
+If Family Matters was redone 100% accurate to modern society, Urkel would never fuckin leave his house to visit Karl and Lara and everyone else he would just be in his basement eating cheeeeeese and writing blogposts about normies should die and lara is a roastie
+
+Even shit from not even 15 years go like The 40 year Old Virgin. Imagine The 40 year Old Incel? That's not a light hearted comedy anymore that's a fuckin horror movie.
+--- 28774861
+I'm lonely. My friends don't have time for me anymore, and I've exhausted a lot of ways to make new ones. This site gives me a way to talk to people on days when I don't get to speak to anyone.
+--- 28774936
+>>28773918
+>>people are honest here
+Fucking moron no wonder you are depressed. The reality is you’re so grounded in reality you ever heard people explaining something unexpected happen yeah that’s because the reality doesn’t actually exist. Tdlr: this place is too real that’s it’s fake now.
+--- 28775046
+>>28771981 (OP)
+Not hanging around adv often but if i would go anywhere else (the big social media stuff) i'd get banned in 2-3 days for trolling, not to say it didnt happen here too.. 
+Mostly chilling on wsr and sometimes pol, lurking on int, of all the things (recently 26) i've come to see, everyone being the same anon makes everyone more honest
+--- 28775101
+>>28773918
+>tried getting help, but there is none
+seek knowledge and wisdom, there is, Nihilism aint the answer

adv/28772245.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772245
+How do I get over the stupid shit I've said and done online? I've tried moving on and forgetting about it but recently in January a friend messaged me again and reminded me of those old days all over again. I hadn't spoken to them in almost 3 years.
+--- 28772280
+Embrace the cringe while moving on emotionally from it. You were a dipshit then and a dipshit now, and you are ENTITLED to being a moron so long as you keep trying harder to not be.
+You can’t blame yourself for doing retarded shit when no one has ever told you or show you otherwise. Even if it’s really sick shit, you can’t move on if you give into the idea that you’re at fault if you know your intentions were good. Take it as a lesson and move on, or you’ll never be able to atone by acting on the good that still remains within you and was always there since the start. Contributing what worth you do have is the only way to salvage a shit situation.
+--- 28774003
+Bump
+--- 28775751
+>>28772245 (OP)
+I don't consider the internet real life so anything you say online doesn't actually matter unless someone in your actual real life presence reads it.
+
+I don't see internet relationships as real relationships unless the people actually meet. So you don't have any reason to worry.

adv/28772325.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772325
+What’s the difference between autism and introversion? I’ve heard introversion is not wanting to play the game of social interaction, while being autistic is like not being able to comprehend the rules.
+
+Can any autists here help? I need specific examples of the differences to make up my mind.
+
+Trying to look up symptoms of autism is so frustrating. Not displaying symptoms is a symptom. They say some autists learn how to “mask” and the more I hear about what that’s like, the more I think “Yeah, that’s what I do.”
+
+My parents had me tested for autism when I was younger, and they said I didn’t have it, but the thing is, I don’t know if the doctor even believed autism was a thing. I don’t even remember the test. What typically happens to a child in these tests, in case anyone wants to help jog my memory?
+
+Also, I’ve met people with Asperger’s and they actually seem…totally normal? At least to me. I just don’t get it. I honestly don’t even know if autism is real in small amounts at this point.
+
+Regardless, I need to know /adv/, am I retarded and if so what do I do about it?
+--- 28772790
+1/4
+
+>>28772325 (OP)
+Autistic femanon here, so perhaps my experiences and symptoms are different from yours.
+
+>What typically happens to a child in these tests, in case anyone wants to help jog my memory?
+I don't know if where you live is different, but in my case there wasn't a "test". I got my diagnosis after a specialized therapist talked with me and my family. I don't remember how was the conversation with me, but my parents have explained to me that the therapist asked about my life in detail from the very beginning. Infancy is one of the most important periods to have in account, since you're not as "conditioned" yet. For example, one thing a lot of autistic children do when playin with toys is to put them in line in a specific order. Usually the order is always the same. Talk to someone who knows you since you were young and ask them how you were, what did you do or if there is some episode that they thought it was weird.
+
+>>28772325 (OP)
+>I’ve heard introversion is not wanting to play the game of social interaction, while being autistic is like not being able to comprehend the rules
+While I get it, I don't agree with this. First of all, there are different needs for every autist. Some of them are not able to comprehend the rules, but they know them. Some others can't spot the rules, but if you tell them they can comprehend them and sometimes execute them. There are others that comprehend the rules, but don't know how or when they should execute them.
+--- 28772803
+>>28772790
+2/4
+
+Let's use as an example when you find someone that is sad. In the first case it'd be:
+>I see someone, I recognize they are sad.
+>I don't know if I should do something in particular.
+>(Most likely outcome) Do nothing to solve the situation.
+The second case would be:
+>I see someone, I might recognize something is out of place, but since I can't put my finger on what is it I ignore it.
+>(Most likely outcome) I continue with my life as nothing happened.
+In the third case it would be more:
+>I see someone, I recognize they are sad.
+>When someone is sad you should cheer him/her up.
+>What do I do? Ask? Then what should I ask? What if I don't get an answer? Should I distract him/her? With what, a joke or something?
+>(Most likely outcome) Analysis paralisis, if I end up doing something comes out sloppy.
+
+Those are examples, but depending on the person, the situation and other things there can be a different attitude and outcome. You might see yourself in one of these examples, but if you do, specially if it's the third case, hold up.
+--- 28772819
+>>28772803
+3/4
+
+Now, about introversion. This might be a personal view, but in my opinion an introvert is someone who puts their attention in the self, in their subjective experience, while the extrovert puts their attention in the impersonal and objective. That doesn't mean, for example, that an introvert can't be a follower of empirism and that the extrovert is not interested in learning about his/herself. Now why the introvert has this reputation of a shut in antisocial/asocial? That is, in my theory, because since the attention is in the self everything is personal, therefore it is more tiring. Example: sharing an opinion. An introvert might hesitate more to share an opinion because it implies the effort of:
+1) Recalling the experiences that gave you the information needed to form this opinion and how it affected YOU.
+2) The formation of the opinion, meaning sharing in part how YOU classify and understand things.
+3) The expression of the opinion, meaning finding the words adequate to express YOUR opinion, that couldn't be formed without YOU. 
+If the opinion is criticised or rejected, the introvert might receive that he/she him/herself is being rejected, or his life experiences, or his reasoning, meaning YOU, as a person, are wrong.
+
+The extrovert might not hesitate to share an opinion because it's not that tiresome/risky to:
+1) Recalling the experiences that gave you the information needed to form this opinion.
+2) The formation of the opinion, meaning sharing the logic effortless way to classify and understand things relating to THAT experience.
+3) The expression of the opinion, meaning finding the words adequate to express WHAT you think and WHY.
+If the opinion is criticised or rejected, the extrovert might ignore it, because he/she is sure there is no there is no other conclusion to reach unless you provide proof, because his/her opinion is devoid of point of view.
+--- 28772828
+>>28772819
+4/4
+
+Of course, these are exaggerations, and people aren't in one extreme or another. Nevertheless, the extrovert is more inclined to search for objective stimulation, do things, sense things, like a collector. The introvert is more inclined to do more subjectively stimulating activities, like deep thinking, being careful and aware, protecting the self from pain and seeking mental satisfaction.
+
+Now, what does this have to do with your post and autism?
+So, as you might know, autism usually doesn't come alone. In my case came with anxiety, social anxiety and depressive seasons. It's also common to be shared with ADHD, OCD, and even there's a correlation between being transgender (not transsexual) and having any sort of autism. But, one of the most common things is sensory issues. I, for example, have "overdeveloped" senses, specially taste, touch, hearing and smell. I know other autists that have "underdeveloped" senses, and need someone to tell them to take their jackets out when it's hot and sweat starts to smell. Therefore, autistic people tend to be more alert in their surroundings (or, on the contrary, they shut down and avoid responding to stimuli). Like I said before, this awareness in what's happening and how it affects you is something introverts are also inclined to do. Is there a correlation between introversion and autism? I don't know but I understand how they can look similar for afar. The question is: why is this person doing this? It's a very difficult question, but it's the question that can help you identify if an attitude is autistic, introverted or both.
+--- 28772831
+>>28772828
+Extra
+
+Lastly, I have a question for you. Do you need help? Can you live fine? You know my sister was also taken to see if she was autistic. The therapist asked to her and my parents if she had any problem, if she could socialize well, if she could do what she wanted to do. The answer in her case was "yes", therefore independently of she was autistic or not the therapist said that it didn't matter at the moment, since she didn't need any help. The diagnosis wouldn't change nothing in her case. She didn't need any special help that the diagnosis could provide her. So, I ask you again? Do you need the diagnosis to help you?
+--- 28772840
+This is 4chan, not a blog website.
+If your point can't be made in one succinct shitpost, it's not a valid point.
+--- 28772865
+>>28772840
+Thanks for the advise
+--- 28772888
+>>28772325 (OP)
+>autism = your brain is literally wired differently to everyone else, having a more computer-like logical thought process
+
+>introversion = normies require social interaction to "recharge" and find solitude draining. Introverts invert that; social environments drain their energy and solitude recharges them.
+--- 28772898
+>>28772790
+>>28772803
+>>28772819
+>>28772828
+>>28772831
+
+Long post, I will respond soon
+--- 28772961
+not OP but I know autism is a spectrum but are there any universal signs that you’re probably an autist?
+--- 28773360
+>>28772961
+>one thing a lot of autistic children do when playin with toys is to put them in line in a specific order. Usually the order is always the same. (>>28772790)
+Not universal but pretty telling.
+--- 28773447
+>>28773360
+I did that all the time. Still not sure if I’m autistic.
+--- 28773492
+>>28772325 (OP)
+
+Introversion will only affect your social interactions, autism affects your entire thought pattern, ability to concentrate ect. Introversion and autism separate in so far that introversion is only about social interactions, while autism will affect you even when you're alone.
+--- 28773557
+>>28772790
+Definitely did the toy thing. That’s why they asked the doctor. Also had some pretty bad tantrums because of loud noises
+
+
+>don’t comprehend social rules but they know them
+
+Me to a t. I just don’t get people. I can play along though
+
+
+>>28772803
+
+I’ve been in all three, but number 3 is the one I get into most.
+
+>>28772819
+By this definition I’d be in the middle of extrovert and introvert. I enjoy deep thinking about both myself and outside things.
+
+>>28772828
+I’ve got anxiety but none of the other stuff. Social anxiety is up there. I also am super sensitive to specific sounds, like clock ticking and open-mouth chewing. I was told that’s called misophonia, but I can’t find a lot of good research on it. It looks like the doctors found people with these symptoms and said “That is happening. Why? Who knows. But it���s happening” I want a causal explanation, but they don’t have one.
+
+>>28772831
+I suppose I don’t need the diagnosis. I’m doing fine as is, but it would be so nice to know that what I’ve been going through has a name. I’m holding down a good job and I’m married, but there are days where I wonder if I can hold it all together. I have to talk to a lot of people and pretend to know what the fuck is going on. I have to be really careful about the information I want to share. I also really cannot do a full day of socializing because of how difficult it is to keep up with all the little subtleties. 
+2/4
+--- 28773564
+>>28773492
+I can focus on anything I desire very intently. Can autists not focus?
+--- 28773568
+>>28772325 (OP)
+Well I mean people don’t necessarily know they stand out. I’m autistic but feel normal, my voice sounds normal to me, my reflection looks normal but I hate hearing my voice and feel I look really ugly in pictures. I guess everyone feels this way but I don’t do anything obviously autistic yet this one also autistic girl knew I was I guess from my speaking pattern and my hand gestures when talking maybe too?
+--- 28773573
+>>28772888
+>computer-like logical process thoughts
+That’s exactly what my thoughts are like. Are other people’s not?
+--- 28773601
+>>28772790
+That kinda depends what rules. Including non-verbal? The stuff that I always thought people did for like comfort but it turns out it’s very methodical?
+--- 28773647
+>>28772325 (OP)
+Personally i just wish the autist community wasn't so aggresive about things, you mention that curing low function patients would be a good thing and they go "EUGENICS EUGENICS YOUR LITERALLY HITLER REEEEEEE-"
+--- 28773687
+>>28773557
+Ignore the 2/4. That’s just a typo
+--- 28773731
+>>28773573
+logical thought process cannot be computer-like because computers don't think.
+
+t. comp sci fag
+--- 28773809
+>>28773573
+No. Many people can't even actually think same way we can.
+
+Can you do the following, anon;
+>picture a banana
+>make it purple
+>rotate it a full 3600
+>peel it
+>it's bright red inside
+>with the same texture as a strawberry
+>bite it
+>it tastes like an lemon
+
+Most normies can't even picture the banana.
+
+>>28773731
+Ffs it means that our brains are more like a file manager program. Fucker hyper-literalist sperg. This is why I only get on with arty autists and loathe nerd autists
+--- 28773816
+>>28773809
+*360 degrees. 
+Shitty formatting changed the degree symbol to a 0
+--- 28773846
+>>28773809
+OP here, I can do all those things easily, but I’m not sure what that has to do with autism.
+--- 28773911
+>>28773809
+>Ffs it means that our brains are more like a file manager program. Fucker hyper-literalist sperg. This is why I only get on with arty autists and loathe nerd autists
+Nerds wrote your god damn file manager program, faggot.
+
+>>28773846
+If you hadn't noticed by anon's response to my post, anon is not autistic. Anon is retarded.
+--- 28773932
+>>28773911
+I’m starting to think the same. Logic, binary, and the like were invented and expanded upon by people without autism, so that’s why I asked.
+--- 28774035
+>>28772325 (OP)
+>What’s the difference between autism and introversion?
+Autism is a mental habit of processing things in very rigid "100% or 0%" ways, of either being excessively sensitive or insensitive to certain stimuli, being fixated on certain ideals or routines, and being irritated when things don't meet your expected patterns.
+Introversion is a habit of feeling comfortable and energised while alone, but stressed and drained around other people.
+The two are mostly unrelated, though autism will intensify the differences between introversion and extroversion, pushing you to one extreme or the other.
+>I’ve heard introversion is not wanting to play the game of social interaction
+Correct
+>while being autistic is like not being able to comprehend the rules.
+It's not _giving a shit about_ the rules and not understanding why the fuck people do the dumbass shit they do. Autists can comprehend the rules to some degree, but not _why_ those rules exist.
+But yes, you are correct for the most part.
+>I need specific examples of the differences to make up my mind.
+Not wanting to flirt with women in case they get pissed off = introvert
+Not understanding why women get pissed off and not seeing how the fuck that could possibly be your problem, and getting irritated at women for being pissed off for no reason = autist
+--- 28774039
+>>28773809
+That doesn’t have anything to do with being a sperg, that just has to do with how good you are at visualizing things. You can be perfectly socially competent while also having a vivid and clear imagination.
+--- 28774062
+>>28772325 (OP)
+>Also, I’ve met people with Asperger’s and they actually seem…totally normal?
+That means you have it, congrats.
+>am I retarded and if so what do I do about it?
+1. Figure out what the fuck you're trying to do in life and why you're trying to do it
+2. Have a plan to act on it, and implement said plan. Do not make stupid excuses for going against your own plan.
+3. if autism makes enacting that specific plan harder for whatever reason, now you may give a shit. At this point, you can think of how to work around your aspergers.
+
+I do not know the specifics of your life so cannot advise in a more specific way.
+--- 28774106
+>>28773573
+>That’s exactly what my thoughts are like. Are other people’s not?
+They are, but their thoughts are less frequent.
+Instead what they do is have emotions, and do whatever their emotions tell them.
+You and I do that too, but whereas we're at least vaguely aware that our emotions might be wrong sometimes, the average person simply does not consider this possibility until they specifically try to.
+--- 28774116
+being autistic just means you're used to routines, it doesn't mean you're introverted
+
+all women are autistic and set in their routines but they're extroverted too
+
+you can be nonautistic introvert or autisitc extrovert, they're irrelevant to each other. autism is about routines and social skills while extroversion is about how much you enjoy being around others. Autism isn't really a thing in men because men can do very well when forced into new situations, autism only really occurs in women.
+--- 28774118
+>>28772961
+>are there any universal signs that you’re probably an autist?
+Yes, you follow their rules and they get pissy at you anyway since you were meant to _break_ the rules in the same way that the other person just did, as violating your own rules is an inherent part of normalfaggotry.
+--- 28774124
+>>28773564
+>Can autists not focus?
+Depends which autist.
+Some of us are exceptionally skilled at it, some of us are exceptionally incompetent at it.
+--- 28774277
+>>28774116
+>all women are autistic
+Then what separates them from diagnosed autistic women?
+--- 28774330
+>>28774277
+nothing, all women would be autistic if they went for diagnose
+--- 28774364
+>>28772325 (OP)
+I thought that I might be an autismo, then I met a real autismo (literal math major). He seemed like a nice enough guy but it was just unbearable levels of cringe.
+--- 28775061
+>>28774116
+>Autism isn't really a thing in men
+Men are several times more likely to be autistic.
+--- 28775081
+>>28775061
+because you can diagnose it in them, in women being autistic is just their default
+--- 28775155
+>>28773911
+And some faggot made the gourmet burger I had for lunch. Code my file manager to organise my files better codemonkey. No line of code ever got anyone laid, but poetry has got MANY a man between a pair of thighs.
+--- 28775994
+>>28772790
+This was a very interesting read. Thank you. I’m not autistic but I am trying to learn more about people on this board.

adv/28772336.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772336
+Hi everyone, just asking for some white lies etc. to enhance /get ahead on CV/application on biotech/bioengineering. Any tips welcome.
+--- 28772356
+submit multiple slightly different applications to the job you really want
+
+like 30
+--- 28772368
+Say you're any race but white or asian.
+--- 28772862
+>>28772368
+will do and play some victim politics there too. how good is BSing about your rainbow perks? pretty easy to write some BS about it but can also be reserved for when they ask about diversity and inclusion
+--- 28772933
+>>28772336 (OP)
+I gotchu bro
+>every lab "class" becomes an internship or research assistant 
+>add +3 months of experience for every lab class. count it from the minute you enrolled to the last day you got your grade, they wont check
+>list out every single lab technique you used
+>include shit like aseptic techniques, quality control (this one will get you calls back its a major keyword for entry level lab jobs), and CGMP and other related certs that you might qualify for but just throw in your resume that you are familiar with the guidelines 
+
+Use chatgpt to get you a list of buzzwords and add them in as much as you can
+--- 28774488
+>>28772933
+thank you anon for being the cutthroat source of inspiration that I need
+--- 28775200
+>>28772933
+Dont lie about certs I knew someone who did that and got fired the day he was onboarded because they asked him to email a copy of them
+--- 28775820
+>>28772336 (OP)
+Identify as black and non-binary. You can also say you're gay if you want. It's not like they take out a Pantone Swatch to determine if you're actually black.
+--- 28775830
+>>28772336 (OP)
+Tinker for 5 minutes in a piece of software so you can write that you are "proficient."

adv/28772440.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772440
+I feel like I fucked up my life and now a lot of people hate or turned against me
+
+My friends are turning on me over my past mistakes 
+
+Last night I tried choking myself to death last month I grabbed a knife
+
+Autism ruined everything I wish I was never born with it
+
+I wake up in the morning extremely stressed about everything it's gotten to the point I have a hard time breathing my head hurts and I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack
+
+Drinking and jacking off kind help but not for long
+
+I just want to die at this point I fucked up my life and I don't know if I'll never bounce back from it
+
+I've been crying a lot as of late
+
+I can't get therapy or meds
+
+I just want to die at this point
+
+I don't know what to do at this point
+
+How do I make these thoughts go away or bounce back in life after a major fuck up?
+
+I'm running out of reasons to live
+--- 28772486
+>>28772440 (OP)
+Don't be so hard on yourself, embrace the grey. That's no reason to kill yourself. You can still have a good life, there's no reason why not.
+--- 28772502
+Hey I'm a fellow Autistic and went through the exact same thing. I lost a very close-knit circle and dating opportunities. Please be kind, it wasn't wasted time. You've learned and you can grow. Please be kind.
+--- 28772519
+Embrace the fact, that life is shit, and soon you'll see how stupid that statement is. Try new things, maybe unconventional ones. I know a lot of people who found happiness after taking psychadelics. Theres still a lot you didnt do.
+--- 28772546
+I hard time moving on from something that happened to me last year I talked about it a lot and now a year later people just shit talked behind my back that's why a lot of people are angry at me people I liked a lot
+
+I messed up could have handled things better when it came to that
+--- 28772776
+Yeah, same thing happened to me, lost all my friends (and a big group of people hate me) because of some past mistake I did while crazy drunk. Have been having the same thoughts as you. 
+I have moved to a diferent place and started making new friends, those whom I know will never be as close to me as the others were, but is better than being alone. Know this anon, you will make new friends, your life is not over. Maybe the life in the way you were used to is, but that doesn't mean the new one has to be bad.
+Try not to think things like "if this were different" "if I have done this or that" the present is all we have, we cannot change the past, it literally 'is what it is'. The past might have been good and it turned into bad, the present (le bad) can also turn into good.
+Don't do it anon, your life is not ruined, it's not over. 
+We are going to make it.
+--- 28772798
+>>28772502
+This.
+Nothing you did was a waste of time, all the memories you made (even if they hurt now) were worth it, and they can remind you of how good things can and will be.
+Take care, Anon
+--- 28772810
+>>28772440 (OP)
+https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/28758677/#28758749
+--- 28772909
+Last night my """Friends""" made fun of me behind my back because I called someone an abuser for screaming at me for months
+
+Now most of them turned on me making fun of me for not having a job or a PC
+
+I didn't get any sleep last night almost choking myself to sleep because of this
+
+I've been mentally fucked for almost a year now I just want to go back in time and stop myself from doing what I did
+--- 28774158
+>>28772909
+>I didn't get any sleep last night almost choking myself to sleep because of this
+>I've been mentally fucked for almost a year now I just want to go back in time and stop myself from doing what I did
+
+There has never been a more lonely feeling. Sitting up at night feeling I'm physically suffocating. I'm learning to be kind on myself, everything went bad in the worst way at the worst time. Maybe, this was genuinely meant to happen?
+
+That said, holy shit did I let certain people get away with mistreatment. Are they going to regret what they did?
+--- 28774433
+Rewatching Erika's final video hurts me I'm sobbing right now
+
+I feel his pain and why he killed himself

adv/28772469.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772469
+I recently broke up with my longterm gf, and putting aside all the problems between us, how the hell do I tell my family? They weren't really that fond of her but my mom helped me a lot of times financially like with presents and dates, so how do I break the news that its over?
+--- 28772481
+I don't even understand the question, what exactly is the problem? What stops you from just sating the facts as they are? What exactly is it that you don't want/are unable to deal with?
+You're an adult, act like it.
+--- 28775053
+Just tell them
+Your mom was investing in the potential future marriage of her son and therefore her son's happiness. Her giving was just mother's duty in a way. 
+ I don't think she cares about the financial aspect of your breakup if she is somewhat reasonable

adv/28772607.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772607
+What are your thoughts on asmr?
+--- 28772701
+Utterly cringe. Tryhard genre for autists and wannabe autists.
+--- 28772713
+>>28772607 (OP)
+Only works on turbo-normies and the very gullible/suggestible.
+--- 28772727
+I don't think it actually works on me and I dislike when women just use it as an excuse to be sexual.
+
+It's like Halloween in that way, I guess.
+--- 28772733
+I like joke ASMR, but that's all. I don't feel any of the sensations from it and people taking it seriously kinda creep me out.
+--- 28772738
+it's not the same as in person, real intimacy and connection.
+--- 28772795
+>>28772607 (OP)
+Feels good. Been into it for the past year or so.
+
+When you get a good ear nibble one it feels so good and feels almost like the real thing.
+
+What I don't get through is that someof these girls use the exact same equipment yet they hit different and don't feel any tingly nibbling or don't feel breathiness. What's up with that? Even the "top" girls with millions of subs barely give any tingles
+
+Also who do you guys think are the best ones? For me it's Fabled Fawn and diddly asmr,
+--- 28772812
+>>28772795
+
+Maybe it's just the same as with any other addictive thing, you've built up a tolerance?
+--- 28772824
+>>28772738
+
+Haha, yeh, like that "positive affirmations" stuff? Kinda creeps me out.
+--- 28772826
+>>28772812
+But most asmrist don't give any feeling at all, yet selected few do. It's weird
+--- 28772850
+>>28772826
+
+I kinda like VisualSounds1 partly I think because she doesn't get all sexual about it. And she's British so accent.
+--- 28772987
+>ASMR irl?
+Really nice experience. Ranges from your parents reading you a goodnight story as a little kid, listening to the rain from inside your house to cuddling with your GF and she making the odd noise of affection for you.
+
+>ASMR online?
+Ranges from interesting roleplay scenarios (medical examinations are a classic), listening to the audio of rain to girlfriend replacement videos, which have very horrifying social implications, because it gives spiritual normies the one thing they couldn't get with porn
+
+>>28772850
+>I kinda like VisualSounds1 partly I think because she doesn't get all sexual about it. And she's British so accent.
+That changed with her latest video where she roleplayed a weird weeb character I don't know about.
+--- 28773014
+>>28772987
+
+Oh, yeh, she always rps characters I don't know about. I like the general dorkiness of the channel. Your tolerance for that sort of thing may vary.
+--- 28773033
+>>28772850
+
+I know that one. She's been around for a while. She's kind of a stick to be fair, lol.
+--- 28773465
+>>28772824
+i'm unfamiliar with what you mean by this
+--- 28773507
+>>28772607 (OP)
+I don't like the videos in the genre but I'm a fan of the feeling and videos that illicit it without trying. The whole catalog of Bob Ross videos are a great example of this
+--- 28773945
+>>28772607 (OP)
+It gives me second hand embarrassment, literally can't watch it.
+--- 28773958
+>>28773465
+
+Oh, that I think is just when a girl will whisper "good boy" and shit like that into the mic. How damaged do you have to be to find stuff like that appealing?
+--- 28773963
+>>28773033
+
+Implying that less curvy women can't be sexual?
+--- 28773985
+>>28772607 (OP)
+I am neutral to ASMR.
+Do not like it myself
+Doesn't seem to be a magnet for schizo obsessives or dumbass coomers. At least, not more than average.
+Therefore neutral.
+--- 28773993
+>>28773963
+
+I know what you're doing and I think you should stop it.
+--- 28774271
+>>28772701
+Its mostly just thots and the simps who pay them
+--- 28774361
+>>28772607 (OP)
+Retarded
+--- 28774447
+I like Bob Ross
+--- 28774512
+Thirst trap ASMR is awful but shit like this is kino
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgyUM4WCJhQ&t=842s [Embed]
+--- 28775191
+>>28772607 (OP)
+Love it. Stumbled across it in 2016 and never stopped watching since. I’d always gotten that tingly feeling down my scalp since I was young but couldn’t put a name to it until I found it. Some of it, mostly the sexual stuff, is cringe but I like seeing how creative people can get with it. Medical exams are my favourite.
+
+Some underrated artists I like are Marika who has the most soothing voice, SRP who does almost exclusively eye exams and Fred’sVoice who isn’t really underrated but he seems nice and I like his content.
+--- 28775199
+>>28775191
+*Morika
+--- 28775465
+>>28772607 (OP)
+Been into it since 2012 desu I used to watch random vlogs, makeup tutorials and stuff for the same effect before I knew there was a word for it. I like high-effort roleplays, especially of the medical type. I fucking hate "trigger assortment" tapping/scratching object videos and those gook ear-licking ones with japanime placeholder jpgs instead of video
+--- 28775959
+>>28772607 (OP)
+I have had ASMR responses but I think that the ASMR community at large is not actually understanding what this is.
+
+An ASMR is a lot like the pins and needles emotional release feeling that you get from listening to a really good song. I don't think ASMR videos have ever done this for me.
+
+One time I was spinning a drum stick between my fingers for about a half an hour and suddenly I got this feeling in the middle of my head like I was on ecstasy it was better than my average orgasm. I lost motor control while this was happening and could not keep spinning the stick.
+
+It happened another time while I was doing something else but I can't remember what it was. It's almost like a flash of electricity lighting up your brain or something.
+
+I do not believe that ASMR is well understood because I think this is a rare phenomenon. Ironically this type of thing was described to me years before the popularity of these internet videos so I have this weird sense of superiority about it, kind of like other people really have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to ASMR, but then again, it's possible that they do. It's just none of these videos has ever produced a remotely similar feeling for me.

adv/28772621.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772621
+I cant tell if I am average or not. I thought I was pretty average looking but then when I go in public it seems like every guy my age looks way better than me. How can I reasonably asses my attractiveness?
+--- 28772668
+>>28772621 (OP)
+Try online dating. See how many matches you get. The results will speak for themselves.
+--- 28772811
+>>28772668
+Its been awhile since I did that but I think I look way better now than when I last did. But I would get occasional matches and dates every once in awhile
+--- 28774287
+>>28772668
+oh shit , Im fucking ugly , but not like I didnt know that already

adv/28772685.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772685
+I used to think that I'd be the one that get a gf before my friend group but then it turned out that I am the only one from the group who have never had sex nor even been in a relationship. I can't lie, I sometimes think to myself on how come I am still single as in that I'm not really a terrible person. but then I realized that Elliot Rodger said exactly like that in one of his videos. 
+
+How do I cope with this? ngl I feel very lonely like there is not a single person for me out there.
+--- 28772772
+>>28772685 (OP)
+i think im going to bump this thread.
+--- 28772777
+Elliot was an awful horrible person.
+--- 28772778
+>>28772685 (OP)
+Have you asked any girls out? Or are you just sort of passively waiting for one to come to you?
+--- 28772842
+>>28772778
+I did actually but only a few times, I'd wouldn't really call some of that a date and I got sort of rejecting a few time.
+
+I do talk and flirt to few women every now and then, but it really went to nowhere. and in a way I'm also still looking for "that person" to come in my life. dating apps is cool and I do got matches and talk to them but I've yet to find anyone whether on online or IRL that I genuinely like
+--- 28772844
+>>28772685 (OP)
+
+https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/26893975/#26894040
+
+https://archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/28754241/#28754297
+--- 28772849
+>>28772777
+of course he's a horrible person that's why I cringed at myself.
+--- 28772855
+>>28772842
+I wouldn't say that I am a high standard neither and actually I'm fine with a whore. but I find it difficult to find that person who are genuienly in the same lane as you (if that make sense).
+
+someone that connect you. someone that understand what I am saying. I want the right person. is that too much to ask? I don't really know how romance work if I'm being perfectly honest.
+--- 28772873
+>>28772855
+I know exactly what youre saying anon youre waiting for that spark. But my advice is still to pursue more girls. Finding a girl that you click with is pretty rare so if youre not actively seeking it out it could be years before you meet a person like that. You dont need to date a ton of girls and be a male whore but just put yourself out there more and talk to more of them. Get out of your comfort zone
+--- 28772896
+>>28772873
+>Finding a girl that you click with is pretty rare so if youre not actively seeking it out it could be years before you meet a person like that.
+yeah I think you're right on that. to Tinder we go.
+--- 28772916
+meet girls and up your experience with them. Find groups and activities. Mine was and learning to dance. It help improve my social skills. Best of luck bro.
+--- 28772921
+>>28772685 (OP)
+are like like 19 years old or 40 or what
+--- 28772924
+>>28772685 (OP)
+>I am the only one from the group who have never had sex nor even been in a relationship.
+Do your friends post on 4chan?
+--- 28772977
+>>28772685 (OP)
+>I used to think that I'd be the one that get a gf before my friend group
+You know, now that you mention this, I don’t think I’ve ever at any point genuinely envisioned myself with a girlfriend or meaningful relationship with a non-familiar female. Not back in grade school, not in middle or highschool, and certainly not in and after college. I think maybe the closest I came was in kindergarten when I had a very vocal crush on a girl. But even then I was 5 or whenever so the concepts were there for me to think about it like that.
+I just can’t see myself with a woman. Sure, I fantasize about one liking me and doing all the work, but in general it just isn’t in the realm of (possible) reality for me.
+Wonder what went wrong
+--- 28773191
+>>28772685 (OP)
+You'll just have to accept that every girl has more experience than you.
+--- 28773220
+>>28773191
+What's that supposed to mean?
+--- 28773314
+>>28772924
+you know what. fair enough.

adv/28772787.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772787
+>lol funny meme video
+>click channel
+>run by a generation alpha school kid
+This is so embaressing. How do I mature?
+--- 28772859
+>>28772787 (OP)
+I just imagine this is how boomers feel when they see A list actors and stuff who are decades younger than them. Its just a part of life kids are gonna always be creating and people are always gonna be consooming
+Ive been starting to feel old myself recently for the first time ever pro athletes and celebs and shit are younger than me and Im 23 
+Part of growing up bro
+--- 28772918
+>>28772787 (OP)
+>Ive been starting to feel old myself recently
+>Im 23
+
+Fucking zoomers
+--- 28772944
+>>28772918
+>tfw sicko mode mo bamba came out 5 years ago 
+Time is flying. Im born in 2000 and already graduated college. WTF
+--- 28773054
+>>28772787 (OP)
+Only boomers act like this btw. The future is now, old man
+--- 28774792
+>>28772787 (OP)
+Gen A is like 0-10 year olds
+
+you're watching video does by other zoomers that are like ~10 years younger than you

adv/28772923.txt

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+-----
+--- 28772923
+Literally everyone thinks I am gay. My girlfriend thinks I am gay, my parents think I am gay, my brother thinks I am gay, and my friends think I am gay. I'm definitely bisexual, but not fully gay I like women 10x more. However, everyone calling me gay has me thinking maybe I am gay. What do I do?
+--- 28772955
+>>28772923 (OP)
+>im bisexual 
+>not gay
+Youre gay dude.
+--- 28772967
+>>28772955
+>Youre gay dude.
+Im not gay dude. I mean Im not 100% straight either but my definition of gay is only wanting to fuck dudes but I want to fuck 100 women for every dude I want to fuck so Im definitely bisexual with a major preference towards women. My problem I guess is that I seem gay by my personality
+--- 28772970
+Call them out for doing bisexual erasure.
+--- 28772972
+>>28772967
+Gay
+--- 28772975
+>>28772967
+Well the normie definition of gay is that you fucked a guy and act like a fruitcake which you have done both so yer gay son 
+Your lgbt spectrum shit is made up suck a dick = gay dont suck dick = not gay
+--- 28772981
+>>28772970
+>Call them out for doing bisexual erasure.
+I have learned over time that no-one actually thinks bisexuality exists if you tell someone you are bi they just think youre closeted gay.
+
+>>28772975
+>suck a dick = gay dont suck dick = not gay
+That totally ignores bisexuality which I am
+--- 28773040
+>>28772923 (OP)
+Your gf thinks you're gay? kek.
+--- 28773046
+>>28772981
+Well the definition in your head isnt the definition in everyone elses. So either you gotta accept you are gonna be known as the "gay guy" or move to west hollywood or SF where people are more woke and will respect your "bisexuality"
+All this shit doesnt matter at all tho just do what you want and let people label you whatever
+--- 28773161
+>>28773040
+>Your gf thinks you're gay? kek.
+Yea its mega-retarded
+
+>>28773046
+>where people are more woke and will respect your "bisexuality"
+Man is it really that "woke" to know that like there are straight and gay people there are those in-between? Its not like this is some obscure thing like what is so hard to understand about it I genuinely cant figure that out
+
+>So either you gotta accept you are gonna be known as the "gay guy"
+Yea too late to change that anyway
+--- 28773179
+>>28772981
+lmao ok gay boy
+--- 28773189
+>>28773161
+>Man is it really that "woke" to know that like there are straight and gay people there are those in-between?
+Yes bc there are 2 genders and if you like the opposite one youre straight and you like the same one yer gay
+--- 28773201
+>>28773189
+>Yes bc there are 2 genders and if you like the opposite one youre straight and you like the same one yer gay
+And if I like both? If only there was a noun used as a prefix that specified two of something...
+--- 28773209
+I'm gay so i can answer your question. I highly suggest you stop telling people you're bi. Normies don't believe in a bisexual man, most gays don't either. People will think you're a closet case who refuses to acknowledge he's a fag, which honestly this tends to be the case. The supposed bisexual men I know are all fags who never date women. Just stop telling people you're bi and problem solved.
+--- 28773233
+>>28773201
+Yea if you like both youre a Degenerate
+--- 28773239
+>>28773209
+>Normies don't believe in a bisexual man, most gays don't either.
+Straight people I understand but its infinitely more frustrating coming from lgbt people. Like its not fucking rocket science I am mostly attracted to women and occasionally find men hot. 
+
+>People will think you're a closet case who refuses to acknowledge he's a fag, which honestly this tends to be the case.
+I fucking hate this meme so much. 
+
+>Just stop telling people you're bi and problem solved.
+I will, but I dont think its problem solved. Everyone already thinks I am gay and its pretty obvious Im not straight when I meet new people they assume Im gay. Fuck this shit man
+--- 28773249
+>>28773161
+Alright well here’s your advice. The harder you fight it, the more people will try to bait you. So don’t fight it. Gaymaxxx. Become a pro dancer, bodybuilder and fashion designer. 
+Then even if people think you’re gay, you’ll be jacked, be a great dancer and wear nice clothes.
+--- 28773264
+>>28773249
+>Gaymaxxx
+Unironically sometimes I think of doing this. Not because I really want to, but because I am so over dealing with the bisexuality shit and women dont like bi guys anyway
+--- 28773417
+Bisexual men exist
+https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2003631117
+Most people think bi men are closeted gay bc many gay men lie and say they are bisexual before coming out as gay
+--- 28773460
+>>28773417
+>Bisexual men exist
+Of course they exist man I am living proof of that
+
+>Most people think bi men are closeted gay bc many gay men lie and say they are bisexual before coming out as gay
+Fair enough, but I am so tired of people thinking I am in the closet when I am literally not I am open about being bisexual
+--- 28773539
+>>28772923 (OP)
+If you're a bottom ur gay. I don't make the rules
+--- 28773730
+>>28772923 (OP)
+its a testament to the human form and attraction that no matter how "passable" trannies get, you can still tell they're men.
+--- 28773884
+>>28772923 (OP)
+god tier thread
+--- 28774258
+>>28773460
+>>28773264
+NTA but you should just own who you are.I knew a dude who everyone swore he was a flaming homo from his mannerisms, voice, dress sense and he was probably the one fucking the most hot chicks out of all of us. Everyone loved him.
+
+Of course, actually liking men means you have to accept that part too. You just don't have to act on it. That said, your gf is a retard for sticking with you if she thinks you like cock lol. Everyone else in your life kind of sucks as far as this goes.
+
+
+Normally I'd say they don't know you very well so who cares about their opinion but that doesn't really apply here.
+--- 28774286
+>>28772981
+be quiet buttboy, real men are talking...
+--- 28774327
+>>28772967
+"My definition of gay" doesn't matter, the definition of bisexual means you are heterosexual AND homosexual. You are gay.
+--- 28774383
+>>28774258
+
+>>28774327
+>the definition of bisexual means you are heterosexual AND homosexual. 
+Uh yea dude thats what it means
+
+>You are gay.
+Not exclusively, or even mostly, which is what people mean when they say Im gay
+--- 28774388
+>>28774258
+>I knew a dude who everyone swore he was a flaming homo from his mannerisms, voice, dress sense and he was probably the one fucking the most hot chicks out of all of us. Everyone loved him.
+Thats powerful, hopefully going to be me
+
+>That said, your gf is a retard for sticking with you if she thinks you like cock lol
+Youre telling me
+
+> actually liking men means you have to accept that part too.
+I mean I do, I openly identify as bisexual
+--- 28774424
+>>28774383
+>Not exclusively
+
+You are literally arguing semantics that mean nothing. I NEVER said "exclusively", and neither did they - or your gf wouldn't even be with you. To be bisexual it is a requirement to be fucking gay, you even just admitted you are gay - "just not exclusively". You're still fucking gay.
+--- 28774437
+>>28774424
+>You are literally arguing semantics 
+Yes dude thats the entire point of this. Everyone says I am gay, when I am not gay. "Gay" meaning exclusively homosexual. If these words didnt have implied exclusivity you could also say Im straight, but I am obviously not.
+--- 28774449
+>>28774424
+>or your gf wouldn't even be with you
+Thats not true, my gf is very afraid I am gay ie "exclusively homosexual" because she asks me if she is my beard or that if I am not attracted to women/her. So for her, like everyone else, me being gay would mean I only like men
+--- 28774451
+>>28773264
+my frien, you're actually gay. The bi thing is a cope, you know it deep down. This is coming from someone who dislikes homosexuality btw, it's a sign of mental illness. That said, you are mentally ill, ie gay, and you have been this entire time.
+--- 28774465
+>>28774451
+>my frien, you're actually gay. The bi thing is a cope, you know it deep down
+Is everyone retarded? I jerk off to women, fuck women, and lust after women but Im actually gay deep down. 
+
+How is this math so hard?
+Some people only like the opposite sex
+Some people only like the same sex
+Some people like both sexes
+--- 28774511
+>>28774437
+>>28774449
+Gay does not mean exclusively homosexual. You keep claiming it does yet nobody in your life has ever said it, hence you continually say it "means" and "implies" and "i.e." and yet not once have you said these people told you you ONLY want men. She'd be broken up with you over this by now if she believed it anyway.
+
+You are obnoxious regardless, so she should, you're a fag whether you like dick or not.
+--- 28774529
+This is the most cope I've seen in recent times on this board that is nothing except cope. "I want to fuck dudes but I'm not gay!" lol.
+--- 28774536
+>>28774511
+>Gay does not mean exclusively homosexual
+It literally does. Thought experiment here. If I can be gay while being attracted and fucking women, can I be straight if I fuck men? If I had my dick in a guys ass would you call me straight because I also am attracted to and fuck women? No you wouldnt, that would be retarded
+
+>She'd be broken up with you over this by now if she believed it anyway.
+She almost has multiple times because every time I am not horny she asks if I am actually gay and not attracted to women.
+
+>You are obnoxious regardless
+Because I feel like I am talking to oblivion NPCs
+--- 28774555
+>>28774536
+Bisexual means heterosexual and homosexual. Homosexual is defined as "gay". To be bisexual you must be gay. It has nothing to do with exclusivity.
+--- 28774557
+>>28774529
+>"I want to fuck dudes but I'm not gay!"
+I literally said I was bisexual. It would be retarded to say I am straight but somehow I am gay when I exclusively fuck women and am attracted to them? Does everyone have 1 IQ?
+--- 28774571
+>>28774555
+I do not meet this definition, I am primarily attracted to women, the opposite sex
+--- 28774575
+other bisexual in the same boat. all bisexuals experience something like this. just remember specific men and women you have been attracted to in the past and maybe make a point to jerk off to straight fantasies every now and then. don't let small minded monosexuals bog you down.
+--- 28774716
+It took me a long time to learn about how women are super homophobic. It's still confusing because young women go crazy for queerbaiting male pop stars. But apparently normal men aren't allowed to be bi or it's gross. I'm extremely lucky to have a gf that falls outside this phenomenon though.
+
+Anyway, OP I think your point has been exhausted. Regardless of how you feel, the distinction between bi and gay men isn't strong in our culture. You may as well just keep your sexuality hidden except from trusted friends, that's what I do.
+--- 28774766
+>>28772923 (OP)
+Does your boyfriend think you're gay?
+--- 28774790
+>>28774716
+>women are super homophobic
+They really are. They act all progressive but they are the most consistently homophobic group I have ever interacted with
+
+>You may as well just keep your sexuality hidden except from trusted friends, that's what I do.
+I agree

adv/28773006.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773006
+Ive been in a off and on again relationship with my girlfriend since 2014. 
+She was born with Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser (MRKH) Syndrome. 
+I want to start off with, I love her with every fiber of my being. I want to marry this girl, and I want her for the rest of my life. I know deep down thats the truth because when I say things and think things like this, I dont feel myself hesitate, it comes from the heart. No second guessing myself after i say it. I know its true for me. 
+I crave other girls though. At first reading that sentence, and even writing it, it feels like you could just take that and call me a cheater. It makes me feel like a cheater. Plain and simple. 
+She wasnt born with all the parts other girls are born with. She's missing everything in her reproductive organs except her right ovary. i never wanted kids, so i figured it was a perfect match made even better. However, She doesnt get wet like other girls, she doesnt have the same sex drive as others as well since this condition can affect that with her horomones. Her canal is also smaller then "normal" canals and eventually i reach her wall where normally a cervix would be, so ive never been able to go in fully. She can get very swollen and tender from sex and after a certain amount, shes physically unable to continue, even if she wants to. Its not her fault, she was born this way and theres nothing she can do about it. I never want to make her feel bad because of this. 
+However i am a very sexual man. I think its these things that make me crave other girls. These things that she cant control. I have never brought this up with her because i can only imagine how i would feel if she told me i wasnt physically enough for her, ESPECIALLY if it was something i literally couldnt do anything about if i wanted to. I would feel like less then i should be. 
+more in next comment, too long for one
+--- 28773019
+I do not ever want her to feel this way. Shes a wonderful person. I know I love her and want her for the rest of my life. She makes me happy, and every aspect outside of this is perfect. However it makes me feel like a sack of shit because im getting these cravings for other girls. 
+We've talked about a poly relationship, Shes Bi and she likes other girls, and wants to mess with them too, I have no issue at all with her hooking up with other girls even when im not there, its even a turn on for me. But when the thought of her with another man comes into my mind, I feel like a total cuck. (Nothing wrong with being a cuck, It just isnt me, plain and simple.) I know wouldnt be able to get an erection for her if she slept with another guy while we were in a relationship. I can feel that in my primal monkey brain. However I feel like a dirtbag for feeling like I want to have sex with other women when I wouldnt be comfortable with her having sex with other men. I THINK I feel like this because theres nothing physically wrong with me. Ive got a above average piece, and I can perform for hours even after busting, so its not a confidence issue. I feel like im "normal". Even typing that im "normal" out to you guys it makes me feel like a dirtbag because it implies that she isnt. But the truth is she isnt (in this aspect). 
+How do i address this? Am i a cheater and im just using this as an excuse to do so? Am i poly for craving others when she fufills my emotional needs, but not the physical? Is it something im not thinking of? im so conflicted. I dont want to bring it up because i dont want to hurt her, but i also dont want to go through life being half fufilled. i feel like eventually we will have to talk about it, but i need second opinions and perspectives. Be honest, but be considerate please, im already feeling like a pos for even thinking about it.
+--- 28773091
+>>28773019
+>Am i a cheater and im just using this as an excuse to do so? Am i poly for craving others when she fufills my emotional needs, but not the physical? Is it something im not thinking of? i
+You're an idiot and immature to boot.
+--- 28773319
+>>28773006 (OP)
+I get you, man. I was in a vaguely similar situation myself. I was with a great woman, she had it everything: the wit, the, intelligence, the charisma, you know the drill, but by the end I stopped being into her becasue she changed physically a lot and we had a lot of unrelated to the topic issues. 
+My point is, I chose to break up with her and now I miss her like I'd miss my right arm. I feel empty, nihilistic and shallow. Not even the prospect of potentially fuck other women -the whole reason for all this mess- cheers me, and as a matter of fact I've been alone ever since. 
+I'm not trying to say that this has to be your same story, of course not, I'm just telling you that breaking up with someone -especially someone nice with a kind soul- just because you want to be with other people might break you in ways you're not even considering right now. I'd recommend you to use this measure as the last resort, try absolutely everything else and bite this bullet only if there's nothing else for you to do. 
+Try anal, oral, dry-humping, lube, toys, there ares so many ways to goon and still bond with your woman.
+Love and cherish what you have, you might miss it for the rest of your life and be a loser like me. Good luck, Anon.
+--- 28773414
+you should break up and have a relationship with someone you won't hurt. because at this rate you're going to hurt her.
+If you love her, let her go.
+--- 28773486
+>>28773091
+You're probably right. Lol as much of an asshole as you're being, you're probably correct
+--- 28773938
+>>28773006 (OP)
+poly is definitely a bad idea, that shit never works out. like another anon said, it's probably better to find alternative ways to ease your sexual impulses. I'd recommend talking to her about it, regardless of how awkward it might be as it's the best way forward with this situation. you should talk to her about your feelings and worries about this situation, including the more embarrassing and guilt-inducing ones, as it's the only way to find a suitable settlement. otherwise, you'll end-up doing something that you'll regret later-on.
+--- 28774550
+>>28773486
+No, not probably, he is right. You're only asking "Am I poly?" to justify the idea of cheating.
+--- 28774952
+>>28774550
+So how do i deal with it? how do you deal with a inherent urge to do that? Why the fuck is it so wrong when its literally human nature?
+--- 28775431
+You are not ethical enough to put your jealousy and pride aside to allow her to experience other men. Allowing only female exploration is misogynist because you don't consider women threatening enough to cuck you or steal. Poly is not stealing and giving back. You do not own each other, not each other's time, body, or anything. That is a different topic of domination and submission.
+No, you are a normal pig headed man and in a fickle condition where you can make a lot of different decisions going foward, that will have multiple potential effects.
+--- 28775452
+>>28774952
+>how do you deal with a inherent urge to do that?
+You tell yourself no and follow everyone else's rules on monogamy.
+>Why the fuck is it so wrong when its literally human nature?
+Because the social climate decided that was abnormal behavior.
+You can choose to play by monogamy rules. You can also choose to play by polyamory rules too. But if you go about it unethically, you will only ruin your reputation AND be hurting people intentionally. (Regardless of your level of understanding)
+--- 28775670
+>>28773019
+>Am i poly for craving others
+That's not a real thing, so no, you're not "poly."
+--- 28776084
+>>28775431
+>t. cuck

adv/28773029.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773029
+How can you tell if you're good looking or not if you're a guy?
+--- 28773058
+>>28773029 (OP)
+If you go to a bar or club or party, how often do women approach you? 
+How often do strangers tell you that you're good looking in general?
+--- 28773079
+>>28773029 (OP)
+Unfortunately it’s one of those “if you have to ask” type of things
+--- 28773290
+>>28773079
+yes
+--- 28773295
+>>28773079
+Haha yep.
+--- 28773388
+Most of these people are right, but there's also a "consideration range" which in my experience is actually real. This goes right out the fucking window if your town has a population of more than 50 though, so I'd say just give up.
+--- 28773430
+>>28773079
+Not as simple as that. For me, after looking at all of the girls that have liked me, there are certain types of girls I attract. You just need to find your target audience and go from there.
+
+For example, I'm a swarthy guy and I tend to attract white women with (dirty) blond hair and blue/green eyes. Rarely do I attact white women with darker hair/eyes.
+
+I'm sure OP is attractive to a certain type of women, he just needs to figure out which type.
+--- 28773457
+>>28773029 (OP)
+You are not
+>source: you are asking
+--- 28773473
+>>28773029 (OP)
+A mirror?
+What a pointless question. And we get it here constantly.
+--- 28773480
+>>28773473
+you can't really rate yourself objectively. 
+
+this is the only correct way of knowing: 
+>>28773058
+--- 28773651
+>>28773430
+Even guys who are merely average looking will have knowing examples of instances of people signaling to them that they think they are attractive. You’re right that what women view as attractive isn’t exactly unimodal and that there has to be some set of women who would probably find OP attractive, but from a standpoint of conventional attractiveness someone who fits that description is going to recognize the social cues and signals that affirm their attractiveness.
+--- 28773677
+we fight over you
+--- 28773777
+Fake thread.
+--- 28773803
+>>28773777
+What makes a thread real?
+--- 28773845
+>>28773803
+Real threads have unique content, not the same question and image reposted everyday, 
+Fake thread and also gay.
+--- 28773856
+>>28773079
+>>28773295
+>>28773457
+Not really. Some people grow up ugly and become handsome as their face matures.
+--- 28773858
+>>28773845
+why would someone make a "fake" thread about such a mundane topic? you're not one of those /pol/cels who actually think government agencies spend money to demoralize virgins on anime forums?
+--- 28773873
+>>28773858
+I refuse to believe that there is a human who hasn’t figured it out after getting numerous answers from the past 10 threads they posted. Probably a bot.
+--- 28773882
+>>28773079
+this
+also post a selfie on photofeeler with a neutral expression
+--- 28773931
+>>28773873
+This whole board is the same like 5 questions posted over and over again. It's mostly just losers asking how to get pussy.
+--- 28773968
+>>28773931
+Yeah but sometimes you get gems like "everyone thinks I'm gay" or "I clogged my shower drain with feces" or "How do I wash my ass"
+--- 28773974
+>>28773029 (OP)
+Who cares lmao just flirt with people anyway.
+--- 28773978
+>>28773856
+Such people will have confidence issues and think they’re being fucked with but even then if they’re good looking after years of not being attractive, then unless they have autism they ought to notice how differently they’re being treated
+--- 28774524
+>>28773029 (OP)
+You get raped crossing the street. Trust me, don't want to be a good looking guy
+--- 28774556
+if attractive girls force themselves on you without doing anything then you are attractive
+and yes if you are truly attractive they will, even on spergs. saying your just asocial is a cope
+--- 28775192
+>>28774556
+yes
+--- 28775205
+if you're good looking, you know it
+if you don't know if you're good looking, you're average or below

adv/28773045.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773045
+What's the point for a woman to dress nicely outside if men won't approach you anymore? Being alone, smiling/appearing friendly and pretty is the most I can do to signal to a man that I'm available for chatting. When I was in a relationship, my bf wouldn't reciprocate and he'd go out dressed as a hobo when I was elegant. He would insist on me picking his clothes but I don't want to treat him like a child, literally anything else than his raggedy home clothes were better
+--- 28773056
+>>28773045 (OP)
+>What's the point for a woman to dress nicely outside if men won't approach you anymore? Being alone, smiling/appearing friendly and pretty is the most I can do to signal to a man that I'm available for chatting.
+
+Stop signalling to guys out of your league. Go for guys within your league. Be more aggressive. Don't play games and string them along.
+
+There. Problem solved.
+--- 28773092
+>>28773056
+How do you know I'm going for guys out of my league? How can one tell? I'm just going outside in public places (library, stores, coffee shops, etc. - not clubs). 
+
+I'm not a zoomer though and I have a hard time understanding why men are so afraid to approach women in public (granted it's not in a blunt, creepy overly intimate manner) because a few years back it used to happen often
+--- 28773117
+>>28773045 (OP)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sYm3Y5OGDE [Embed]
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srYsalvGXH4 [Embed]
+--- 28773160
+Dressing up feels good. It's not about other people. It's about being yourself and being expressive. Your boyfriend expresses how much he gives a shit with his raggedy ass clothes. Get over this sack of potatoes and move on.
+--- 28773163
+>>28773045 (OP)
+fellow femanon here. men are too scared or stupid nowadays to pick up on hints like that, you have to step it up a notch and actually like talk to them
+--- 28773208
+>>28773163
+Men are only scared of it because any woman can send a man to prison with a single false rape accusation, with 0 evidence. So aproaching a woman first is like russian roulette.
+--- 28773219
+>>28773045 (OP)
+I most likely would approach you. I’m autistic so hopefully you wouldn’t think I’m weird and I were, I wouldn’t realize it. That’s what I look for but normally women sitting alone are busy or have AirPods or whatever in. But are you hot?
+--- 28773228
+>>28773208
+Stop browsing /r9k/ so much. A woman won't call the cops on you simply for trying to strike a conversation. At worse she'll walk off
+--- 28773282
+>>28773117
+are these still valid in our trigger happy muh consent feminist age?
+--- 28773294
+>>28773092
+>I'm not a zoomer though and I have a hard time understanding why men are so afraid to approach women in public (granted it's not in a blunt, creepy overly intimate manner) because a few years back it used to happen often
+>embarassing to get rejected over and over
+>public perception is cold approaching is for creeps
+--- 28773302
+>>28773219
+what's wrong with having airpods or scrolling on the phone? These gadgets exist and help to pass the time better. I can't tell who would look more unapproachable, someone who listens to music or someone sitting at a table sipping their coffee and looking either deep in thought or watching people as if they're expecting someone?
+--- 28773306
+>>28773045 (OP)
+Probably because men are told repeatedly that approaching women in public is bad, unwanted, and harassment.
+--- 28773316
+>>28773228
+>>28773163
+don't really matter what you want or think how it should be. in this era guys will approach you less because of what they grew up hearing and what they see women are saying on social media daily. they aren't stupid. they're smart. just download an app or use social media to get something life not gonna play out like the movies and tv shows you watch it's a different era
+--- 28773334
+i used to approach women. the women just rejected me (very nicely usually) i gave up after like 15 attempts and most men call me retarded for trying. if i approached OP she would reject me. shit only works when you're 
+>good looking
+>tall
+>charming
+most guys would get rejected by OP thats why they dont do it
+--- 28773354
+>>28773302
+Well they still don’t really seem that open to me. I did partially have success with doing this though, I mean approaching someone that was only eating but I approached her again and well she said she was busy and I’ve been obsessing over it, worrying it was something I said for months now.
+--- 28773376
+>>28773228
+A bit overstated, but it’s become less acceptable socially for men to approach women with sexual or romantic intent anywhere except Bars, Clubs, Parties or similar social environments and a lot of that has to do with 3rd wave feminists publicly shaming those who attempt to approach them in public spaces. Yes not every woman is going to be offended or threatened by men who cold approach but the voices of the women who would be are louder.
+--- 28773379
+>>28773092
+you hit the wall bitch, welcome to getting older.
+--- 28773396
+>>28773379
+>OP: Waaaa I'm over 30 and now men don't approach me why could this be????
+--- 28773431
+>>28773379
+>>28773396
+i haven't hit the wall. i've been taking care of myself so I look 20 something.
+
+but the thing is they're not approaching younger girls either. I've been watching them and boys are so much more handsome and stylish nowadays and it's such a pity that everyone is so autistic, scared and isolated that they don't dare approach
+--- 28773449
+>>28773431
+>i haven't hit the wall. i've been taking care of myself so I look 20 something.
+Ok
+
+>but the thing is they're not approaching younger girls either
+This is also true, but the explanation is quite simple. Us young guys have been told growing up at that women HATE being approached in public and that if you do that you are a creep whos going to scare her.
+--- 28773466
+My first (and only) bf approached me irl, so maybe it's given me "high standards" expecting a relationship to happen by men approaching. The problem here is that I'm not exactly a normie women, because most women are bubbly and social. I have really bad social skills and no friends. I think it might take me years to work my confidence and social skills to be able to even smile at stranger men lol. 
+But, I'm fine with being alone because I've always been on the asocial side.
+--- 28773475
+>>28773466
+would you want an asocial bf like you or would you rather have a talkative social butterfly bf?
+--- 28773494
+>>28773475
+I think I would prefer an asocial bf. it does seem hard for two people like that to get into a relationship if both are afraid to talk to the other one.
+--- 28773583
+>>28773431
+>i've been taking care of myself so I look 20 something.
+Ahahahahahahaha the cope
+--- 28773585
+>>28773228
+It depends on how bad you look and how good your social skills are. If you're an average robot who can't look people in the eye and stutters while talking, many women sure as hell will call the cops on you to "teach you a lesson."
+--- 28774901
+>>28773431
+How old exactly?
+--- 28775721
+>>28773045 (OP)
+This is a pretty good impression of a woman.
+--- 28775934
+>>28773045 (OP)
+Do you live in New England?

adv/28773095.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773095
+did i fuck up guys? i panicked when she started making fun of me
+--- 28773167
+>>28773095 (OP)
+Bro you got blocked it over next time dont sperg out
+--- 28773171
+>>28773095 (OP)
+Based and spergpilled
+--- 28773177
+>>28773095 (OP)
+hahaha anon this is what we call a learning experience.
+Onto the next one
+--- 28773195
+saying you're taking too long when you really are taking too long isn't making fun of you. facts don't care about your feelings
+--- 28773198
+>>28773095 (OP)
+>i panicked when she started making fun of me
+It was just banter, you fucking autist.
+--- 28773202
+>>28773095 (OP)
+yes but she seems to kind of sounded like a b anyway
+
+tone is lost by way of text and this is just another example, if something like this happens again imo just play it off like you did the time before, in that position i would have said something like
+
+"LMAO hold on a second i almost got something"
+
+learn from this and move on
+--- 28773203
+That was a try to be humorous on her side. I dont think she tried to make fun of u, she wanted u to reply while also trying to be funny so she came up with that..
+--- 28773434
+>>28773095 (OP)
+ngl this shit funny asf
+
+bro she blocked you but its okay she just got put off by that big mood swing, don't take that shit too seriously you'll be alright, okay bro?
+--- 28773458
+>>28773095 (OP)
+She was teasing you dumbass. It was intended as playful. Men who aren't jellified blobs of insecurity don't mind a little brattiness and will try to fuck it out of her instead.
+--- 28773722
+>>28773095 (OP)
+>lashes out over 17 minutes to ask "whats your favorite genre of music"
+you went from a little "haha wait" to "I said to FUCKING WAIT-" and it makes you seem really unstable. were you guys on icebreaker questions too? id also block, and question what kind of bullet i dodged for the next day or so.
+for future reference, just. ignore her. she was teasing, and it seems like shes the stereotype for a girl that does that too. shes waiting either way, just being a little shit about it.
+--- 28773783
+>>28773095 (OP)
+try no fap so you dont take petty shit so personal
+--- 28774259
+>>28773434
+lmfao
+--- 28774413
+Could have just invited her to the bingo hall once she started implying you were old...
+--- 28774498
+modern women have an annoying tendency to block or ditch you at the first hint of anything that might point to you having an anger problem. they won't give you a chance and another chance and 7400 more other chances till you end up punching a wall or putting them in the hospital like mai trad waifu does. cunts. cunts fucking whore cunts nigger shit jew shit nigger faggot nigger andrew tate nigger. are you gay? i'm gay. i'm gay and a tranny, and i shat in your mom's pussy while sawing her head off with a chainsaw. nigger. nigger nigger. get me some tendies with balls sauce. piss on a dog. i fucked a dog. i fucked a dog in its asshole. four chan dot com. kill all normies. fuck all normies in the mouth and the ass. your mom. your dad. your greasy greasy grammy. i want to die. i can't stop fucking. i can smell fucking vagina juice. use my keys to rip up your hot little fuckbox till the blood runs down your legs. save 75% on your car insurance. shall i compare thee to a summer's day? thou art gay, and a nigger. alas poor Yorick; he was a nigger; mere niggers are loosed upon the world, the center cannot be a gay jew tranny who fucked your mom and so we beat on boats against the nigger borne back ceaselessly into the nigger
+--- 28774525
+>>28774498
+this
+--- 28774545
+>>28773095 (OP)
+yeah you fucked up you sound like a little bitch who would throw a tantrum if someone 'disrespected' him
+--- 28774574
+>>28773095 (OP)
+Yes you fucked up you sperg lol
+--- 28774621
+i would have kept talking to you but the responses here are making me reconsider whether that's a good idea and if i am too forgiving to men who don't know how to act right
+--- 28774624
+>SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING SLUTWHOREBITCH I'M TRYING TO THINK
+>erm, what kind of music do you like?
+Absolutely astounding, put me in the screenshot
+--- 28774658
+>incel sperg speedrun any% tool assisted
+based retard
+--- 28774730
+I came here to laugh at you.
+--- 28776266
+>>28773095 (OP)
+lol
+--- 28776303
+Bumping this thread to laugh at you, 10/10 spergout OP
+
+>Hellooooo pls respond anon :3
+>I told you to FUCKING wait
+--- 28776328
+>>28773095 (OP)
+>I said to fucking wait I'm thinking of a goddamn question
+if you were extremely attractive and/or she knows your personality IRL already then this a fine statement
+
+the way you came across was as an autistic manchild throwing a tantrum, but I do respect your willingness to banter with women unlike simps
+--- 28776386
+What's so funny is that her banter was playful 100% "I'm this close to wanting to smash" and you had to sperg out and ruin it.
+If a girl is actively saying "hello are you there?" when you don't reply fast enough, that is a fucking KEEN woman.
+--- 28776413
+>>28774498
+>be me talking to opposite sex who i might want to one day get intimate with, someone i might have to be ultimately vulnerable to (who outweighs me by 20kg)
+>they get seemingly extremely angry at a minor little tease, showing both a lack of self esteem AND inability to control themselves (even through text which allows for time to cool down/rethink)
+>I also have myriad other options, plenty of adult humans who can control their temper (and keep in mind you can measure a man by the size of the things of things that make him mad)
+>I'm UNreasonable for this
+
+she's fine, anyone who agrees with you is a fuckin retard and doesn't get pussy anyway. I'd expect any women in my family to insta block this sperg (and you) too, he's simply unfit.
+--- 28776426
+>>28773095 (OP)
+>WHY DO FEMALES PLAY MINDS GAMES
+--- 28776448
+>>28773095 (OP)
+Fucking autist.

adv/28773119.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773119
+>meet a girl who acts obsessed with me, says she was too nervous to approach me initially, initiates everything, says she can't stop thinking about me and even masturbates when thinking of me etc
+>about to have a gf for the first time
+
+>suddenly randomly says she's not ready for a relationship and stops texting me at all.
+
+I am seriously unironically beginning to think that there's some evil force out there that is doing everything it can to prevent me from being happy.
+Is this the early stage of schizophrenia?
+--- 28773134
+>>28773119 (OP)
+You people really have no meaningful struggle in life. You're pathetic
+--- 28773158
+>>28773134
+yeah because being a lonely, hopeless incel is totally normal. Nothing strange about all the men entering their 20s as KHHV failures.
+--- 28773403
+>>28773119 (OP)
+I think the same, Ive had about 4 people in bed at this point and everything except penetrative sex has happened. I just laugh about it now. I know people will probably tell me to be grateful and I am but its just funny to me.
+--- 28775074
+ds89c
+--- 28776102
+>>28773403
+>>28773119 (OP)
+I'm the exact opposite, I meet and chat with girls and then fuck in the first 3 dates, and then after that the relationship just fucking dies.
+I've never had a relationship past sex.

adv/28773385.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773385
+gf has "broken up with me" a few times now. she comes clamming back the next day claiming its her coping mechanism for dealing with her PTSD (raped as a child by her father in a foreign country i guess).
+
+recently i made a very poorly timed joke towards her in her time of need after unexpectedly breaking one of her limbs. she "broke up with me" again. i thought this was going to be the final straw for me, but she called my phone about 5 times yesterday (in regret, i guess, but would go on to say no apology). 
+
+made me feel like shit, told her that i was at fault for telling a bad joke at a bad time, and if its that fickle for the relationship, then maybe she should look for someone else. i guess after realizing how silly this was she flipped a switch and started realizing that she was in the wrong for not trusting me or listening to my intentions, that i didn't mean her harm. she admits for the first time in 6 months that she loves me, and she can't let me go, but also says she feels trapped by me, and i told her she was a grown woman and could make her own choices in this relationship, that if she felt "imprisoned" she could leave. 
+
+i dont know, part of me is beginning to resent her very two-faced behavior, but another part of me just wants to ride this out until it fully crashes and burns. should i trust my gut and run, or try to play this out?
+--- 28773409
+btw im mid 20s, shes early 30s.
+--- 28773517
+Tell her to get trauma therapy...or else!
+--- 28773519
+>>28773385 (OP)
+take her back and just take it easy, try to use your time together to share new experiences. you dont want to fall into the same trap your old relationship shared
+--- 28773607
+>>28773409
+>shes early 30s.
+Bruh reading your post I thought she was like 18. A woman in her THIRTIES acting like this is not someone you want to deal with shes like a decade behind in maturity. Dont get back with her, she needs therapy
+--- 28773721
+>>28773517
+>>28773607
+
+she's already been in therapy for the last 5+ years. i honestly think her behavioral issues are too deeply ingrained in her for any real resolution to happen with changing it. i gave her a lot of time and patience from this to be better, but nothing really changes. this stuff happens, then goes back to similar circumstances weeks later.
+
+>>28773519
+with her recently broken appendage, its going to be hard to "share new experiences", and the "old relationships" i think youre referring to were literal months apart. going to try and take it easy, but i fully believe this is the last straw for me.
+--- 28774631
+bump
+--- 28775076
+>>28773721
+Actually Trauma Therapy? Around here that means 2.5 Months in a clinic with a tight schedule and intense care.
+--- 28776120
+>>28775076
+where is "around here"?
+--- 28776161
+>>28773385 (OP)
+This sounds like a phenomenon called splitting, commonly associated with bpd, which is the tendency to, in short timespans, flip rapidly between very black and white views of you (i hate you, you’re evil -> i’m so sorry, you’re perfect, i’m so disgusting). If you can recognize this as a repeatable behavior, and you like her otherwise, you can learn to recognize the signs of splitting and thus be unfazed by the low points. Otherwise, if you don’t want to deal with it (which is perfectly valid, you are in no way obligated to be her handler), then you can just not take her back.

adv/28773386.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773386
+There's this guy at the gym who is very chatty and bubbly with everyone, including with me. I don't reject people unless I'm in a hurry with my workout. He'll often tell jokes and talk in a manner that makes me laugh. I both find his jokes funny to a degree but I also can't help but be polite. I wear headphones but I take them off to listen to him.
+
+Problem is, he's been getting the wrong idea I think? He's been insinuating stuff though in our convos it has come up that we both have partners but he's carefree and I value loyalty and not interested in others. I think he's still pushing for it. One night, he scared me a bit when out of the blue (we were not talking but had noticed and waved at each other in the gym), he was passing by me and asked if I'm not scared to go back home alone at night? I told him no and he was like "right..right" as if he was in deep thought. It was 9 pm and he knows I'd been coming in late for some time. I also live 5 mins away from the gym too though he doesn't know that. Idk it was random and atm it caused some concern
+
+Question is, how do I tame down our interactions? I tried playing it cool and appearing in a hurry, but sometimes he'll wait for me to finish my set so he can talk to me while I rest. So I think he doesn't get the idea. Is there any way I can put some distance between us? I wouldn't want to cut contact (impossible anyway) and not speak to him at all but it feels like he's trying to push a boundary
+--- 28773448
+have a talk with the dude. tell him exactly what you wrote here. 
+
+> I tried playing it cool and appearing in a hurry, but sometimes he'll wait for me to finish my set so he can talk to me while I rest. So I think he doesn't get the idea. Is there any way I can put some distance between us? I wouldn't want to cut contact (impossible anyway) and not speak to him at all but it feels like he's trying to push a boundary
+
+perfect way to put it IMO. you want to be nice, but he's making you uncomfortable and you just want to focus on the gym while you have the time there. if he reacts poorly to it, then good, he wont bother you anymore. if he reacts well to it, then nice, hopefully he understands the first time. that's all you can really ask for imo
+--- 28774996
+>>28773448
+thanks, i'm glad im not doing this too wrong
+--- 28775036
+>>28773386 (OP)
+Is OP a guy or girl
+
+Regardless show me cock or show me pussy faggot/unfaggot
+--- 28775131
+>>28773386 (OP)
+>lead a guy on
+>act surprised when he acts interested
+Based women striking again

adv/28773451.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773451
+Should i leave my family and move to canada to send money to them
+--- 28773880
+>>28773451 (OP)
+
+leaf here, 
+
+> whats your skillset?
+> how much are you gonna make here based on that skillset? 
+> where in canada ? It's a huge country.
+--- 28773928
+>>28773451 (OP)
+
+Where you coming from? Where do you wanna go?
+--- 28773956
+>>28773451 (OP)
+As a Leaf, don't listen to >>28773880. The cost of living just keeps going up at a ridiculous rate.
+--- 28773977
+>>28773956
+
+Well, yeh, if it's Toronto or something like that.
+--- 28774019
+>>28773956
+
+> don't listen to (me)
+> didn't even offer a modicum of advice
+> automatically jumps to his own conclusions and tells people the usual talking points
+
+We don't reeeally know shit about this person Leaf. Give it a second.
+--- 28775248
+>>28773451 (OP)
+You need to make at least 100k a year to even live here alone let alone have money to send
+--- 28775352
+>>28773451 (OP)
+Don't move here unless you can already land a high paying job. You'll be city bound and everyone is fucking expensive
+--- 28776087
+>>28773451 (OP)
+If you're not white then fuck off we're full.
+--- 28776104
+>>28773451 (OP)
+When I did welding in Alberta back in 2014 it was common for 12 philipinos to rent a one bedroom apartment together and send almost all of what they made back home while they lived off of ichiban noodles.
+Don't do it, just go make more off of a job in the states instead. You will get undercut for pay by someone if you come here.

adv/28773543.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773543
+I am an ugly 20 year old woman who wants to be a man only because I want to look like and be like what I'm attracted to. How to remedy this?
+--- 28773558
+>ugly
+yea right
+post pics and ill be the judge of that
+--- 28773580
+>>28773558
+I want to stay anonymous on the anonymous forum but take my word for it. I'm ginger, I wear glasses, I'm skinnyfat even though I eat as little as I can, and my features are very uneven especially in photos. I don't bother anymore because I know that I'm not good looking.
+--- 28773581
+>>28773543 (OP)
+Man up
+--- 28773595
+>>28773580
+>my body will show off my name somehow
+
+Uh huh
+
+>I’m for real a woman
+
+Tits or gtfo
+--- 28773597
+>>28773543 (OP)
+Transitioning is a solution.
+--- 28773605
+>>28773581
+?
+>>28773595
+I don't care about my name, I saw images of that thread where that ugly girl posted pictures of herself and it got immortalized through that. If I were MTF trans, I'd be asking how to stop wanting to be a woman.
+--- 28773621
+>>28773543 (OP)
+Sounds like a fetish. A lot of men experience AGP without being trans.
+--- 28773629
+>>28773543 (OP)
+If youre fat lose weight. There are very very very few undatable women who arent fat
+--- 28773641
+>>28773621
+Yeah, I thought so. I have no dysphoria so it's probably just AGP but with men instead of women. Any idea of how those non-trans AGP guys deal with it?
+
+>>28773597
+No thank you, I don't want to mutilate my body.
+--- 28773674
+>>28773580
+do squats until you have a butt then guys will pretend to care about you just to fuck you. win win
+--- 28773675
+>>28773580
+>I'm ginger
+Men love redheads
+I wear glasses
+Men love librarians
+>I'm skinnyfat even though I eat as little as I can
+Skinnyfat is a male-exclusive build. As a woman you just have a few extra poinds. Maybe gain a little weight to pad out your curves?
+>my features are very uneven
+Men literally simp for down syndrome chicks if they have a decent body
+
+Loneliness in women is self-imposed 100% of the time.
+Either your standards in men are too high, or something else is holding you back.
+--- 28773683
+>>28773641
+>No thank you, I don't want to mutilate my body.
+Alright then, repress the thoughts. Don't engage the fantasy, when you start having the thoughts push it back.
+--- 28773712
+>>28773580
+Height?
+What does your relationship history look like?
+--- 28773750
+>>28773675
+I don't have high standards at all, I just want to look/be a guy because that's what I'm into
+>>28773683
+I've tried to but it only comes back tenfold
+>>28773712
+5'3
+Never had a boyfriend, never talked to anyone in that way, never been approached.
+--- 28773793
+would absolutely bang you regardless of the weird guy fetish thing and ugly face
+--- 28773798
+>>28773543 (OP)
+Just go on bumble or hinge
+--- 28773799
+>>28773580
+>Ginger
+This is fine.
+>Glasses
+This is fine.
+>Skinnyfat despite food
+Exercise a bit. Food wise - water only to drink, lean food otherwise, etc.
+>uneven features
+Is this objective or you're too self critical? Many of us aren't even. My nose is slightly crooked and my eyes aren't perfectly level... Make sure you aren't internalizing small things and making them into a big deal. It's counter-intuitive but confidence in who you are will be more attractive than any objective flaws.
+>I don't bother anymore
+Giving up will never fix the problem. You have to understand this...
+
+Give it a serious, hard as you fucking can effort. Then you may say "I did my best"... 
+
+You're probably not as bad as you think. Photos could help us weigh in - you can hide your eyes or identity somehow, it's not that difficult, but that's up to you.
+--- 28773810
+>>28773750
+>I've tried to but it only comes back tenfold
+Clearly not trying enough
+--- 28773843
+honestly this thread is useless without pics.
+--- 28773852
+>>28773793
+>>28773798
+I am severely autistic and have no friends or any idea of how to socialize
+>>28773799
+Thanks. 
+>Is this objective or you're too self critical? 
+My eyes slant at different angles, one of my eyebrows is more raised than the other, and the corners of my mouth curve up on one side and slant down on the other, plus my cheeks are really chubby. I'm pretty easy on myself but my face is just bad.
+>>28773843
+Why does it matter if I'm ugly or not? Even if I was pretty, it wouldn't change the core dilemma of 'I want to be like what I'm attracted to'
+--- 28773855
+>>28773750
+Well, I think its interesting pretty much every single female equivalent AGP Ive seen never had a relationship with a man before.
+I have reasons to believe it might go away if you date.
+--- 28773867
+>>28773543 (OP)
+>and be like
+Not ever possible. Sorry, we don't science there. You will not be what some had from their start.
+--- 28773886
+>>28773852
+>I am severely autistic and have no friends or any idea of how to socialize
+I'm starting to see a trend between autism and gender questioning.
+You do not understand. Stop asking and just live better how you are without taking constant pills and massive amounts of plastic surgery that will make you want to kill yourself. Save the dimes and effort.
+--- 28773901
+>>28773852
+>I am severely autistic and have no friends or any idea of how to socialize
+so am i... we'd be perfect for each other. i could call you a dude if you wanted
+--- 28773914
+>>28773543 (OP)
+>20 year old woman who wants to be a man
+please marry me
+--- 28773934
+Are we talking androgynous twink or manly lumberjack here?
+--- 28773960
+>>28773934
+lumberjack
+--- 28773979
+>>28773960
+please disreguard >>28773914 unless you are willing to take the next step to becoming my perfect husbandwife
+--- 28774113
+>>28773867
+>>28773886
+I know I'll never be a man, so how do I stop the longing? It's purely sexual at this point
+--- 28774440
+>>28774113
+get a boyfriend to roleplay it with you, use a muscle suit and a strapon
+--- 28774457
+>>28773580
+--- 28775149
+bump
+--- 28775160
+>>28775149
+can you add me on discord, i want to fuck you fr fr
+--- 28775253
+>>28773543 (OP)
+You are not going to love yourself more if you transaction, it will be the same only that people around you will give less of a fuck about how you feel. This is a self-esteem problem, there's more to a beauty than looks. Being smart, mature, kind, positive, interesting, fun. Having interests, passions, ideas, dreams, beliefs, hoobies. All of these and more that I won't bother to think of right now make someone attractive so when they look at you the see you and bee attractive to know that you look like you and that's what makes you attractive. But most importantly you have to love yourself when you look at a mirror despite what anyone else might say, be healthy and love yourself
+--- 28775980
+reply to me or i will kill myself
+--- 28775989
+>>28773543 (OP)
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmQ_ukE-zME [Embed]

adv/28773570.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773570
+I keep seeing these new types of videos where they are just being assholes and bullying some random person in public and just calling it a “prank”. Like pushing people’s carts or just sticking a camera in their faces and bothering or insulting them, and it blows my mind that these videos get hundreds of thousands likes and people in the comments find it hilarious.
+So what would the proper way to deal with these people without going to jail? I mean I can’t just put out a gun or knock them out because they are pushing my cart on the supermarket. So what should one do in this hypothetical situation?
+--- 28773578
+>>28773570 (OP)
+You know those are faked for views right?
+--- 28773588
+>>28773570 (OP)
+You should not care because they’re fake and they’re not going to happen to you
+--- 28773591
+literally yell at them and make them feel as uncomfortable as they tried to make you feel 
+
+this guy handles it well i thought
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgC_CFj69o8 [Embed]
+--- 28773624
+>>28773578
+>>28773588
+Literally any retard can just go out in public and do them. Im not talking about TV pranks like impractical jokers types. Im talking about random teenagers on tiktok that go out with their friends and just record these things with their iphones
+--- 28773655
+>>28773591
+Kek. That nigger was clearly afraid of that asian dude. And they have the nerve to say “leave me alone” when they are outside with the sole reason to bother random people. Fuck how I wish I could beat these people up
+--- 28774836
+>>28773570 (OP)
+I WISH a 30 year old zoomer would try that on me, just give me an excuse to beat the shit out of them in self defense
+--- 28774854
+>>28773570 (OP)
+They only want reactions. If you literally act like they're not there then they have nothing to post.
+--- 28775364
+>>28774854
+False. Ive seen so many videos of people literally “roasting” (just insulting) some random person while the person tried to pretend they were not there, being quiet while some nigger sticks a camera up their face and starts insulting you for no reason.
+Take >>28773591 for example, they’ll physically do things to you that are annoying but not enough justification for getting knocked out as it would be escalation. I’ve also seen videos of these “pranksters” pushing people’s carts, taking food out of someone’s cart and watching them begging them to give it back as they hold it, putting buckets on people’s heads and running away, even doing it 3 or more times. Like they walk in that line of harassment that doesn’t warrant a fight or getting shot. Slimy fuckers

adv/28773615.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773615
+>I don't care about social stigma or how awkward it looks, most people around me are gross reprobates 
+>I like keeping my skin away from the sun
+>I like looking drip
+>I also don't mind smelling like weed and opium in public
+--- 28774307
+Monk robes?
+--- 28774353
+>>28773615 (OP)
+Being gay
+--- 28774359
+>>28773615 (OP)
+Listen, it all depends on your build and looks. If you're a manlet with a recessed chin, slouched posture and slim to none muscle mass, you'll look like a retard and probably get punched too. On the other hand, if you're at least average height, have broad shoulders, some muscle mass and look like the kind of guy who someone wouldn't want to fuck with, you'll be fine and it might even look good.
+--- 28774428
+>>28774359
+Why would I look like a retard wearing it? I am trying to obviously dress and look differently from western people because I don't like western culture
+--- 28775585
+>>28774428
+you are from...?
+--- 28775616
+Pure contrarianism. Basically just childish and embarrassing, but most likely no one will say anything because no one cares.
+>Phoneposter
+Yep, about the quality and level of insight that I would expect.
+Basically kys.

adv/28773638.txt

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+-----
+--- 28773638
+Thinking of finally trying this out now that I've gotten in shape and stuff. Should I log in with a Google account or a phone number? Any general advice? Is it more likely to be a fruitful endeavor if I live in a big city?
+--- 28773664
+Lol don't tell him guys let him see for himself
+--- 28773739
+>>28773664
+Wh-what is it?
+--- 28773811
+>>28773638 (OP)
+It's much better in big cities but still worth trying in small-medium sized ones . How good looking are you and how good are your photos?
+--- 28773819
+see you next week on r9k
+--- 28773904
+>>28773811
+>It's much better in big cities but still worth trying in small-medium sized ones .
+Well I'm in one of the biggest cities there is so I guess that's good news.
+>How good looking are you and how good are your photos?
+I don't know. I had a few girls ask me out when I was a teenager but I said no because I had a severe case of oneitis (still do and am trying to get over it). I've never taken pictures of myself before.
+--- 28773962
+It's a miserable grind of an experience.
+I did the same thing, got in shape and decided to try it.
+
+I posted shirtless face-cropped pics (didn't want my face on there) and got a few matches with 30yo+ single mums (exactly what I wanted, thirsty slampigs) but women on tinder are the WORST communicators. One-word answers, boring beyond belief, indecisive, in my month or so on there I met ONE woman, a married 47yo at a hotel.
+The hours I spent on there, (I didn't do any swiping; when someone likes you, tinder tells you. Set your distance to like 1m, and swipe left until someone 2m+ shows up. Tinder does slip your likes into your feed even if they are outside your parameters if you swipe left enough to keep you using the app)
+I'll probably go back on in summer, but it is a miserable experience when you have to deal with how unbearable the women who use that app are.
+--- 28774187
+>>28774145
+This is faked right.
+--- 28774231
+>>28774187
+Nope, it's real.
+--- 28774239
+>>28774187
+Yes, Chad isn't actually a real guy
+--- 28774249
+>>28774231
+who gives a fuck, I'd sleep with the female equivilent if they looked like that and messaged me as well.
+stupid fucking image, who wouldn't?
+--- 28774252
+>>28774187
+No, there are several examples like this.
+My own mate did it by using a photo of some fag from a lawyer tv show saying had a yacht etc and he had dumb bitches clawing for him. If you're a rich chad tinder is a goldmine even if you're objectively evil
+--- 28774296
+>>28773904
+If you aren't like an 8/10 then you'll want to have photos taken that make it look like you go out and do things. Can get a friend to take them, hire a photographer or take them yourself with a tripod + timer 
+
+>>28773962
+Your experience would have been better if your profile had good photos. Also I believe swiping on profiles is recommended on tinder because doing so makes your card more likely to appear in their stack. Bumble seems to do good job at showing you to everyone regardless
+--- 28774325
+>>28774296
+Fuck actually going anywhere, just shoop yourself into locations popular with normies and prepare some bullshit anecdotes in case they ask. The more vague the better, you do it all the time, remember.
+
+I had a perfectly good experience, it was my matches that were just awful communicators. They were thirsty as fuck, but so painfully dull that I found it hard to maintain a conversation that would lead to meeting up. I just gave up on several and left them saying "hello?" several times until they fucked off.
+--- 28774389
+>>28773638 (OP)
+> Pic related
+I have a 1.2% match rate. Even giga chads and online dating pros maybe push 5% at best. Making AI photos of yourself doing random interesting stuff probably will get you further. It's very much a volume game as a man, and it turns out women are as shallow as men are (see >>28774231 ). Being hot might get you laid but you'll still struggle with finding someone worth a relationship.
+--- 28774434
+I've been using it for a few weeks and it hasn't been as bad as I thought. The first day felt like being high on a drug because you get so many matches but then it dwindles and makes you doubt your entire life lmao.
+It's important to be aware of the psychological manipulation tinder plays on you and not let it affect you (too much). I found it okay for seeing the quality of women whenever I travel and occasionally meeting someone interesting but I can see the mental damage it would cause for someone who uses it for actual relationships
+
+>>28774389
+how do you get to this insights screen?
+--- 28774458
+>>28774434
+It's an external site called tinder insights, you request your data from tinder and it'll give you information like this. Interesting but maybe not that useful.
+--- 28774467
+>>28774389
+The problem with tinder is you don't know how many of those accounts you've swiped on are inactive or didn't even see your card (it doesn't prioritise you unless you pay for platinum or a boost)
+
+Bumble on the other hand tells you exactly how many women swiped right Vs left of you. Picrel was when I set up an account in London and had 700 likes in 24 hours (15% of women swiped right on me). Chads can get 25-30%+
+--- 28774478
+>>28774389
+>288 chats
+>0 dates
+
+you are doing something very wrong
+
+wait you're >34 years old
+kek you better be a tall jacked millionaire by that age otherwise you're going to have to settle for a fat single mom
+--- 28774485
+>>28774467
+>London and had 700 likes in 24 hours
+Are you a model with really good pics? I've never seen even the Chaddest Chads get such numbers
+--- 28774561
+>>28774485
+I'm 5'10 ottermode with maybe a 7/10 face. I just have high quality pics. It's hard to find other examples of stats but I saw one where a 6'3 ivy league lawyer had 25% right swipes
+--- 28774568
+>>28774485
+In london you're gonna get lots of scammers and foreigners using vpns wanting richfags.
+--- 28774667
+>>28774485
+>>28774561
+These are my tinder insights btw. Should have been on more dates but logistics are really shitty atm
+--- 28774737
+>>28773638 (OP)
+Its a soul crushing affair as you will rarely ever get a match and even from those rare matches only a handful will ever turn into a single texting exchange and no actual real life meetup will occur. I know you wont believe this because i myself didnt believe this truth either and had to find out for myself so by all means give it a shot. It will at least be educational for you.
+--- 28775087
+>>28773638 (OP)
+I tried this shit AGAIN two months ago and kept it for a month. Got two bot likes which unmatched as soon as I liked back.
+Kek. My genes ain’t worthy or some shit. I need to just stop worrying about it, jack off, and be happy by myself
+--- 28775116
+i think someone catfished as my ex bf and i am so upset desu
+
+i just want to get back together and have the sexo and dorkfests
+--- 28775124
+>>28775116
+>it was just someone pretending to be me
+>you fall for it
+many such cases
+--- 28775509
+It doesn't work, it's designed to make you feel bad about yourself until you pay. And even then nothing is guaranteed.
+
+The people posting how they have matches are gigachads or, more likely, lying shills trying to give you false hopes.
+
+Just think about it, an app that you can install for free and it lets you easily meet single women for sex? You know what they say about things that sound to good to be true.
+--- 28775734
+>>28775509
+Actually it does work. The algorithm works as intended to drain as much money from you as possible. Tinder will string you along with just enough dates that will you keep coming back.
+My advice is to throw your phone away, you're being duped.
+--- 28775805
+>>28774434
+>it hasn't been as bad as I thought. The first day felt like being high on a drug because you get so many matches
+im not buying it, had no matches even with chadfihing maybe you live in niggertown
+--- 28776143
+>>28775124
+it's like torture i do not consent 
+>>28775805
+stop chadfishing you scum
+--- 28776158
+I've had better luck with Hinge. Over 6 months about 20 matches, 10 dates total with 5 women (5/2/1/1/1). Still no gf or wife though (don't believe in sex before marriage).