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[10:49] <imka> hi

[10:49] <imka> hi

<s> hi </s>

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[10:49] <|QuaD-> hey

[10:49] <|QuaD-> hey

<s> hey </s>

2004-12-25

[10:49] <imka> i gotta call my isp to activate my router. its got 2 physical adresses, almost identical. one ends with b the other with c. which 1 should i use<

[10:49] <imka> i gotta call my isp to activate my router. its got 2 physical adresses, almost identical. one ends with b the other with c. which 1 should i use<

<s> i gotta call my isp to activate my router . its got 2 physical adresses , almost identical . one ends with b the other with c . which 1 should i <unka<> </s>

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[10:49] <imka> ?

[10:49] <imka> ?

<s> ? </s>

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[10:50] <aboutToUbuntu> so i have kind of a general question. Some of the packages that I get with apt-get arent the most up to date. should i lave them as they are, or can i update some other way?

[10:50] <aboutToUbuntu> so i have kind of a general question. Some of the packages that I get with apt-get arent the most up to date. should i lave them as they are, or can i update some other way?

<s> so i have kind of a general question . some of the packages that i get with apt-get arent the most up to date . should i <unka> them as they are , or can i update some other way ? </s>

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[10:51] <bluewheel> aboutToUbuntu, sudo apt-get update first

[10:51] <bluewheel> aboutToUbuntu, sudo apt-get update first

<s> <user> , sudo apt-get update first </s>

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[10:51] <aboutToUbuntu> by the way, thanks for answering my questions, its very much appreciated

[10:51] <aboutToUbuntu> by the way, thanks for answering my questions, its very much appreciated

<s> by the way , thanks for answering my questions , its very much appreciated </s>

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[10:51] <bluewheel> that will update the package listing

[10:51] <bluewheel> that will update the package listing

<s> that will update the package listing </s>

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[10:51] <aboutToUbuntu> bluewheel, i did that

[10:51] <aboutToUbuntu> bluewheel, i did that

<s> <user> , i did that </s>

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[10:51] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: hoary or warty

[10:51] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: hoary or warty

<s> <user> : hoary or warty </s>

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[10:52] <aboutToUbuntu> warty

[10:52] <aboutToUbuntu> warty

<s> warty </s>

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[10:52] <|QuaD-> thats expected... it is stable

[10:52] <|QuaD-> thats expected... it is stable

<s> thats expected ... it is stable </s>

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[10:52] <|QuaD-> not bleeding edge

[10:52] <|QuaD-> not bleeding edge

<s> not bleeding edge </s>

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[10:52] <aboutToUbuntu> so ... if i wanted, say, openoffice 1.1.3, I have to wait?

[10:52] <aboutToUbuntu> so ... if i wanted, say, openoffice 1.1.3, I have to wait?

<s> so ... if i wanted , say , openoffice 1.1.3 , i have to wait ? </s>

2004-12-25

[10:53] <aboutToUbuntu> or vnc 4.x

[10:53] <aboutToUbuntu> or vnc 4.x

<s> or vnc 4.x </s>

2004-12-25

[10:53] <rattboi24> or install it by hand

[10:53] <rattboi24> or install it by hand

<s> or install it by hand </s>

2004-12-25

[10:53] <|QuaD-> there is a backports repository... but it might break your system

[10:53] <|QuaD-> there is a backports repository... but it might break your system

<s> there is a backports repository ... but it might break your system </s>

2004-12-25

[10:53] <tranceConscious> how do i set up a usb modem???

[10:53] <tranceConscious> how do i set up a usb modem???

<s> how do i set up a usb modem ??? </s>

2004-12-25

[10:54] <aboutToUbuntu> so, as far as I can remember, openoffice has a very nice and easy installed, or at least it was with suse. will it do the same thing here, and will it mess with the rest of my system?

[10:54] <aboutToUbuntu> so, as far as I can remember, openoffice has a very nice and easy installed, or at least it was with suse. will it do the same thing here, and will it mess with the rest of my system?

<s> so , as far as i can remember , openoffice has a very nice and easy installed , or at least it was with suse . will it do the same thing here , and will it mess with the rest of my system ? </s>

2004-12-25

[10:54] <aboutToUbuntu> *installer

[10:54] <aboutToUbuntu> *installer

<s> <unka*> </s>

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[10:55] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: i owuld reccomend the back ports repo... but thats jsut me

[10:55] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: i owuld reccomend the back ports repo... but thats jsut me

<s> <user> : i owuld reccomend the back ports repo ... but thats jsut me </s>

2004-12-25

[10:55] <rattboi24> nice, ubuntuguide.org

[10:55] <rattboi24> nice, ubuntuguide.org

<s> nice , ubuntuguide.org </s>

2004-12-25

[10:55] <rattboi24> that's easier to remember

[10:55] <rattboi24> that's easier to remember

<s> that 's easier to remember </s>

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[10:55] <aboutToUbuntu> QuaD, how do i do it?

[10:55] <aboutToUbuntu> QuaD, how do i do it?

<s> quad , how do i do it ? </s>

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[10:56] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: is that the link for backports?

[10:56] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: is that the link for backports?

<s> <user> : is that the link for backports ? </s>

2004-12-25

[10:57] <jiyuu0> |QuaD-, http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/

[10:57] <jiyuu0> |QuaD-, http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/

<s> <user> , URL/http:/ URL/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ </s>

2004-12-25

[10:57] <ironwolf> does order matter for rsync --include and --exclude's ?

[10:57] <ironwolf> does order matter for rsync --include and --exclude's ?

<s> does order matter for rsync --include and --exclude 's ? </s>

2004-12-25

[10:57] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: look at jiyuu0's link

[10:57] <|QuaD-> aboutToUbuntu: look at jiyuu0's link

<s> <user> : look at jiyuu0 's link </s>

2004-12-25

[10:58] <rattboi24> |QuaD-: no, unofficial ubuntu guide

[10:58] <rattboi24> |QuaD-: no, unofficial ubuntu guide

<s> <user> : no , unofficial ubuntu guide </s>

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[10:58] <rattboi24> used to be a different link that was more convoluted

[10:58] <rattboi24> used to be a different link that was more convoluted

<s> used to be a different link that was more convoluted </s>

2004-12-25

[10:58] <wood1> But OpenOffice lacks the power of MS_Access

[10:58] <wood1> But OpenOffice lacks the power of MS_Access

<s> but openoffice lacks the power of <unka_> </s>

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[11:00] <|QuaD-> wood1: who would want that

[11:00] <|QuaD-> wood1: who would want that

<s> <user> : who would want that </s>

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[11:00] <|QuaD-> its a HORRIBLE db

[11:00] <|QuaD-> its a HORRIBLE db

<s> its a horrible db </s>

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[11:00] <|QuaD-> linux has soo many better choices

[11:00] <|QuaD-> linux has soo many better choices

<s> linux has soo many better choices </s>

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[11:01] <wood1> I want OpenOffice to include a Database Software like Access

[11:01] <wood1> I want OpenOffice to include a Database Software like Access

<s> i want openoffice to include a database software like access </s>

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[11:01] <housetier> wait for the next major release

[11:01] <housetier> wait for the next major release

<s> wait for the next major release </s>

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[11:02] <wood1> Well OpenOffice is nice but still lacks behind MS-Office in database application

[11:02] <wood1> Well OpenOffice is nice but still lacks behind MS-Office in database application

<s> well openoffice is nice but still lacks behind <unka-> in database application </s>

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[11:02] <housetier> or get the beta preview

[11:02] <housetier> or get the beta preview

<s> or get the beta preview </s>

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[11:02] <wood1> How do I get the preview

[11:02] <wood1> How do I get the preview

<s> how do i get the preview </s>

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[11:02] <housetier> openoffice.org I'd say

[11:02] <housetier> openoffice.org I'd say

<s> openoffice.org i'd say </s>

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[11:02] <wood1> Can it handle Access mdb files ???

[11:02] <wood1> Can it handle Access mdb files ???

<s> can it handle access mdb files ??? </s>

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[11:02] <|QuaD-> wood1: how do you figure?

[11:02] <|QuaD-> wood1: how do you figure?

<s> <user> : how do you figure ? </s>

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[11:02] <|QuaD-> MS Access is horrible

[11:02] <|QuaD-> MS Access is horrible

<s> ms access is horrible </s>

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[11:03] <housetier> wood1 I don't know, see for yourself :)

[11:03] <housetier> wood1 I don't know, see for yourself :)

<s> <user> i do n't know , see for yourself :) </s>

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[11:03] <|QuaD-> ms shouldn't even include it in their suite... there is nothing good about it anymore

[11:03] <|QuaD-> ms shouldn't even include it in their suite... there is nothing good about it anymore

<s> ms should n't even include it in their suite ... there is nothing good about it anymore </s>

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[11:03] <wood1> Well it is very good

[11:03] <wood1> Well it is very good

<s> well it is very good </s>

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<s> <user> likes access </s>

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[11:03] <|QuaD-> the one advantage it had was ease of use

[11:03] <|QuaD-> the one advantage it had was ease of use

<s> the one advantage it had was ease of use </s>

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[11:03] <|QuaD-> but now with the different gui's for mysql, etc ... it lost that

[11:03] <|QuaD-> but now with the different gui's for mysql, etc ... it lost that

<s> but now with the different gui 's for mysql , etc ... it lost that </s>

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[11:03] <wood1> Come on, let's be fair, Access is well ahead in terms of Database

[11:03] <wood1> Come on, let's be fair, Access is well ahead in terms of Database

<s> come on , let 's be fair , access is well ahead in terms of database </s>

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[11:03] <|QuaD-> and it is horrible in terms of performance

[11:03] <|QuaD-> and it is horrible in terms of performance

<s> and it is horrible in terms of performance </s>

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[11:04] <|QuaD-> wood1: how do you figure? is isn't multithreaded, no server archetecture... what is it ahead on????

[11:04] <|QuaD-> wood1: how do you figure? is isn't multithreaded, no server archetecture... what is it ahead on????

<s> <user> : how do you figure ? is is n't multithreaded , no server archetecture ... what is it ahead on ???? </s>

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[11:04] <wood1> Well if all you want is a database software to handle 2 million records, Access is faster than the wind

[11:04] <wood1> Well if all you want is a database software to handle 2 million records, Access is faster than the wind

<s> well if all you want is a database software to handle 2 million records , access is faster than the wind </s>

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[11:05] <|QuaD-> wood1: i REALLY hope you are kidding.... access is slow

[11:05] <|QuaD-> wood1: i REALLY hope you are kidding.... access is slow

<s> <user> : i really hope you are kidding .... access is slow </s>

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[11:05] <|QuaD-> want me to get you technical papers comparing that to others>

[11:05] <|QuaD-> want me to get you technical papers comparing that to others>

<s> want me to get you technical papers comparing that to others > </s>

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[11:05] <JanC> OOo can handle .mdb on platforms that support the MS Jet Database Engine...

[11:05] <JanC> OOo can handle .mdb on platforms that support the MS Jet Database Engine...

<s> ooo can handle <unka.> on platforms that support the ms jet database engine ... </s>

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[11:05] <|QuaD-> wood1: if access is so powerful, why is it soo cheap and microsoft sql server like a couple grand?

[11:05] <|QuaD-> wood1: if access is so powerful, why is it soo cheap and microsoft sql server like a couple grand?

<s> <user> : if access is so powerful , why is it soo cheap and microsoft sql server like a couple grand ? </s>

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[11:06] <wood1> Well have you done that ?

[11:06] <wood1> Well have you done that ?

<s> well have you done that ? </s>

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[11:06] <wood1> Can you get OpenOffice to handle *.mdb files

[11:06] <wood1> Can you get OpenOffice to handle *.mdb files

<s> can you get openoffice to handle <unka*.> files </s>

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[11:06] <JanC> and Access is not a database, it's a database frontend & a RAD tool

[11:06] <JanC> and Access is not a database, it's a database frontend & a RAD tool

<s> and access is not a database , it 's a database frontend & a rad tool </s>

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[11:07] <JanC> which by default uses the MS Jet Database Engine...

[11:07] <JanC> which by default uses the MS Jet Database Engine...

<s> which by default uses the ms jet database engine ... </s>

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[11:07] <rattboi24> ok, how do I get the nvidia driver working again?

[11:07] <rattboi24> ok, how do I get the nvidia driver working again?

<s> ok , how do i get the nvidia driver working again ? </s>

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[11:08] <wood1> Anyway, the part where Access wins is the interface to create Databases from a click of a mouse

[11:08] <wood1> Anyway, the part where Access wins is the interface to create Databases from a click of a mouse

<s> anyway , the part where access wins is the interface to create databases from a click of a mouse </s>

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[11:08] <|QuaD-> JanC: yes... i was playing with access support in OOo... i had to use it for an asp.net program.... it was difficult to use in OOo... i just went to a win pc

[11:08] <|QuaD-> JanC: yes... i was playing with access support in OOo... i had to use it for an asp.net program.... it was difficult to use in OOo... i just went to a win pc

<s> <user> : yes ... i was playing with access support in ooo ... i had to use it for an asp.net program .... it was difficult to use in ooo ... i just went to a win pc </s>

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[11:08] <rattboi24> since I updated my kernel

[11:08] <rattboi24> since I updated my kernel

<s> since i updated my kernel </s>

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[11:08] <|QuaD-> wood1: want me to show you easier interfaces for mysql?

[11:08] <|QuaD-> wood1: want me to show you easier interfaces for mysql?

<s> <user> : want me to show you easier interfaces for mysql ? </s>

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[11:08] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: there are no precompiled drivers (i don't believe)

[11:08] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: there are no precompiled drivers (i don't believe)

<s> <user> : there are no precompiled drivers ( i do n't believe ) </s>

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[11:09] <rattboi24> so if I get the nvidia drivers and reinstall them, there won't be issues?

[11:09] <rattboi24> so if I get the nvidia drivers and reinstall them, there won't be issues?

<s> so if i get the nvidia drivers and reinstall them , there wo n't be issues ? </s>

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[11:09] <rattboi24> I did that last time

[11:09] <rattboi24> I did that last time

<s> i did that last time </s>

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[11:09] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: should work

[11:09] <|QuaD-> rattboi24: should work

<s> <user> : should work </s>

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[11:09] <oscarh> hi! is it able to get ubuntu to include a kernel patch? and who should i talk to?

[11:09] <oscarh> hi! is it able to get ubuntu to include a kernel patch? and who should i talk to?

<s> hi ! is it able to get ubuntu to include a kernel patch ? and who should i talk to ? </s>

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[11:09] <|QuaD-> talk to the developers

[11:09] <|QuaD-> talk to the developers

<s> talk to the developers </s>

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[11:09] <|QuaD-> ie daniels, Kamion, etc

[11:09] <|QuaD-> ie daniels, Kamion, etc

<s> ie <user> , <user> , etc </s>

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[11:09] <JanC> oscarh: #ubuntu-devel

[11:09] <JanC> oscarh: #ubuntu-devel

<s> <user> : #ubuntu-devel </s>

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[11:09] <oscarh> cheers

[11:09] <oscarh> cheers

<s> cheers </s>

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[11:09] <wood1> QuaD, That would be great

[11:09] <wood1> QuaD, That would be great

<s> quad , that would be great </s>

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[11:10] <|QuaD-> wood1: what would

[11:10] <|QuaD-> wood1: what would

<s> <user> : what would </s>

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[11:10] <sladen> oscarh: what patch?

[11:10] <sladen> oscarh: what patch?

<s> <user> : what patch ? </s>

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[11:10] <wood1> If I could use some simple interface to interact with MySQL databases ?

[11:10] <wood1> If I could use some simple interface to interact with MySQL databases ?

<s> if i could use some simple interface to interact with mysql databases ? </s>

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[11:10] <oscarh> sladen, alps touchpad

[11:10] <oscarh> sladen, alps touchpad

<s> <user> , alps touchpad </s>

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[11:10] <JanC> wood1: OOo 2.0 will have database form creation wizards etc.

[11:10] <JanC> wood1: OOo 2.0 will have database form creation wizards etc.

<s> <user> : ooo 2.0 will have database form creation wizards etc . </s>

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[11:11] <wood1> So QuaD, how do I do that in MySQL

[11:11] <wood1> So QuaD, how do I do that in MySQL

<s> so quad , how do i do that in mysql </s>

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[11:11] <Simira> and Access hasn't?

[11:11] <Simira> and Access hasn't?

<s> and access has n't ? </s>

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[11:11] <|QuaD-> woood1: mysqlcc, phpMyAdmin

[11:11] <|QuaD-> woood1: mysqlcc, phpMyAdmin

<s> <unk#a> : mysqlcc , phpmyadmin </s>

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[11:11] <wood1> By the way, I have to get my job done in Access in 1 Week.

[11:11] <wood1> By the way, I have to get my job done in Access in 1 Week.

<s> by the way , i have to get my job done in access in 1 week . </s>

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[11:12] <wood1> When will OpenOffice 2 get released ?

[11:12] <wood1> When will OpenOffice 2 get released ?

<s> when will openoffice 2 get released ? </s>

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