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[11:49] <oscarh> sorry, new to gnome

[11:49] <oscarh> sorry, new to gnome

<s> sorry , new to gnome </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <seb128> you don't

[11:49] <seb128> you don't

<s> you do n't </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <oscarh> seb, wonderfull

[11:49] <oscarh> seb, wonderfull

<s> seb , wonderfull </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <seb128> that's been rewritten; that's a devel branch

[11:49] <seb128> that's been rewritten; that's a devel branch

<s> that 's been rewritten ; that 's a devel branch </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <oscarh> :)

[11:49] <oscarh> :)

<s> :) </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <seb128> you can add .desktop files

[11:49] <seb128> you can add .desktop files

<s> you can add .desktop files </s>

2004-12-25

[11:49] <seb128> but you have no UI to do this for the moment

[11:49] <seb128> but you have no UI to do this for the moment

<s> but you have no ui to do this for the moment </s>

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[11:50] <oscarh> don't like stuff on the desktop, but no worries, i like the console

[11:50] <oscarh> don't like stuff on the desktop, but no worries, i like the console

<s> do n't like stuff on the desktop , but no worries , i like the console </s>

2004-12-25

[11:50] <maz1977> hi all

[11:50] <maz1977> hi all

<s> hi all </s>

2004-12-25

[11:50] <maz1977> I have a question about my winmodem

[11:50] <maz1977> I have a question about my winmodem

<s> i have a question about my winmodem </s>

2004-12-25

[11:50] <|QuaD-> seb128: what happened? i am lost

[11:50] <|QuaD-> seb128: what happened? i am lost

<s> <user> : what happened ? i am lost </s>

2004-12-25

[11:50] <seb128> ?

[11:50] <seb128> ?

<s> ? </s>

2004-12-25

[11:51] <bluewheel> maz1977, good chance it will cause hell

[11:51] <bluewheel> maz1977, good chance it will cause hell

<s> <user> , good chance it will cause hell </s>

2004-12-25

[11:51] <maz1977> the device manager tool has find a modem

[11:51] <maz1977> the device manager tool has find a modem

<s> the device manager tool has find a modem </s>

2004-12-25

[11:51] <|QuaD-> restate your message in 1 easy to read msg

[11:51] <|QuaD-> restate your message in 1 easy to read msg

<s> restate your message in 1 easy to read msg </s>

2004-12-25

[11:51] <maz1977> on which device I can find it??'

[11:51] <maz1977> on which device I can find it??'

<s> on which device i can find <unka'?> </s>

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[11:52] <seb128> ??

[11:52] <seb128> ??

<s> ?? </s>

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[11:52] <|QuaD-> ok never mind then

[11:52] <|QuaD-> ok never mind then

<s> ok never mind then </s>

2004-12-25

[11:52] <cenerentola> hi there.... hi seb128

[11:52] <cenerentola> hi there.... hi seb128

<s> hi there .... hi <user> </s>

2004-12-25

[11:52] <seb128> I don't understand the question

[11:52] <seb128> I don't understand the question

<s> i do n't understand the question </s>

2004-12-25

[11:52] <|QuaD-> seb128: did you need help

[11:52] <|QuaD-> seb128: did you need help

<s> <user> : did you need help </s>

2004-12-25

[11:52] <seb128> morning

[11:52] <seb128> morning

<s> morning </s>

2004-12-25

[11:52] <seb128> no, I don't need any help, why ?

[11:52] <seb128> no, I don't need any help, why ?

<s> no , i do n't need any help , why ? </s>

2004-12-25

[11:53] <maz1977> seb128 are you talkin to me?

[11:53] <maz1977> seb128 are you talkin to me?

<s> <user> are you talkin to me ? </s>

2004-12-25

[11:53] <|QuaD-> seb128: i thouhgt you did

[11:53] <|QuaD-> seb128: i thouhgt you did

<s> <user> : i thouhgt you did </s>

2004-12-25

[11:53] <|QuaD-> sorry

[11:53] <|QuaD-> sorry

<s> sorry </s>

2004-12-25

[11:53] <maz1977> I would like to make a link like ln -s /dev/??? /dev/modem

[11:53] <maz1977> I would like to make a link like ln -s /dev/??? /dev/modem

<s> i would like to make a link like ln -s DIR/dev/ ??? DIR/dev/ DIR/modem/ </s>

2004-12-25

[11:54] <seb128> maz1977, no, I'm talking with the guy with a weird char in the start of his name :p

[11:54] <seb128> maz1977, no, I'm talking with the guy with a weird char in the start of his name :p

<s> <user> , no , i 'm talking with the guy with a weird char in the start of his name :p </s>

2004-12-25

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[11:55] <maz1977> none can help me?

[11:55] <maz1977> none can help me?

<s> none can help me ? </s>

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[00:05] <qazwer> I want install a server,what's better of debian or ubuntu?

[00:05] <qazwer> I want install a server,what's better of debian or ubuntu?

<s> i want install a <unka,> 's better of debian or ubuntu ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:06] <|QuaD-> qazwer: debian stable

[00:06] <|QuaD-> qazwer: debian stable

<s> <user> : debian stable </s>

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[00:07] <qazwer> thanks

[00:07] <qazwer> thanks

<s> thanks </s>

2004-12-25

[00:07] <linux_galore> seen a few people ask about Ubuntu as a server......time to make a server release

[00:07] <linux_galore> seen a few people ask about Ubuntu as a server......time to make a server release

<s> seen a few people ask about ubuntu as a server ...... time to make a server release </s>

2004-12-25

[00:07] <|QuaD-> qazwer: i actually think the developers reccomend against ubuntu for servers

[00:07] <|QuaD-> qazwer: i actually think the developers reccomend against ubuntu for servers

<s> <user> : i actually think the developers reccomend against ubuntu for servers </s>

2004-12-25

[00:08] <daniels> |QuaD|: no, we absolutely do not

[00:08] <daniels> |QuaD|: no, we absolutely do not

<s> |quad| : no , we absolutely do not </s>

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[00:08] <daniels> linux_galore: why would we want a separate 'server release'?

[00:08] <daniels> linux_galore: why would we want a separate 'server release'?

<s> <user> : why would we want a separate 'server release' ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:08] <daniels> we use ubuntu on all our servers and see no reason for anyone else not to

[00:08] <daniels> we use ubuntu on all our servers and see no reason for anyone else not to

<s> we use ubuntu on all our servers and see no reason for anyone else not to </s>

2004-12-25

[00:09] <daniels> boot with 'linux custom' in the installer and you won't get gnome or anything

[00:09] <daniels> boot with 'linux custom' in the installer and you won't get gnome or anything

<s> boot with 'linux <unka'> in the installer and you wo n't get gnome or anything </s>

2004-12-25

[00:09] <linux_galore> daniels: why not..... if people want to pay for it

[00:09] <linux_galore> daniels: why not..... if people want to pay for it

<s> <user> : why not ..... if people want to pay for it </s>

2004-12-25

[00:09] <cenerentola> linux_galore free as in freedom and free as in beer

[00:09] <cenerentola> linux_galore free as in freedom and free as in beer

<s> <user> free as in freedom and free as in beer </s>

2004-12-25

[00:09] <linux_galore> who needs a desktop with a server all you need is a nice admin interface vie the LAN

[00:09] <linux_galore> who needs a desktop with a server all you need is a nice admin interface vie the LAN

<s> who needs a desktop with a server all you need is a nice admin interface vie the lan </s>

2004-12-25

[00:10] <daniels> linux_galore: 'linux custom', you don't get gnome installed

[00:10] <daniels> linux_galore: 'linux custom', you don't get gnome installed

<s> <user> : 'linux <unka'> , you do n't get gnome installed </s>

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[00:10] <|QuaD-> daniels: i am sorry for the confusion, i thought you reccomend agaoinst using it on a server

[00:10] <|QuaD-> daniels: i am sorry for the confusion, i thought you reccomend agaoinst using it on a server

<s> <user> : i am sorry for the confusion , i thought you reccomend <unka> using it on a server </s>

2004-12-25

[00:10] <|QuaD-> i guess i was wrong :(

[00:10] <|QuaD-> i guess i was wrong :(

<s> i guess i was wrong :( </s>

2004-12-25

[00:10] <linux_galore> yeah but Linux custom doesnt have a nice server admin interface ala SLE9 by Novel

[00:10] <linux_galore> yeah but Linux custom doesnt have a nice server admin interface ala SLE9 by Novel

<s> yeah but linux custom doesnt have a nice server admin interface ala <unk#a> by novel </s>

2004-12-25

[00:10] <|QuaD-> linux_galore: so use sle8

[00:10] <|QuaD-> linux_galore: so use sle8

<s> <user> : so use <unk#a> </s>

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[00:10] <|QuaD-> *sle9

[00:10] <|QuaD-> *sle9

<s> <unk#a*> </s>

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[00:11] <qazwer> i like ubuntu ,i always use it on my work pc.i want install it on my server.

[00:11] <qazwer> i like ubuntu ,i always use it on my work pc.i want install it on my server.

<s> i like ubuntu ,i always use it on my work <unka.> want install it on my server . </s>

2004-12-25

[00:11] <linux_galore> |QuaD| were I work thats a "your fired" response

[00:11] <linux_galore> |QuaD| were I work thats a "your fired" response

<s> |quad| were i work thats a " your fired " response </s>

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[00:12] <bluewheel> linux_galore, I love the acceptance they have for new things :-)

[00:12] <bluewheel> linux_galore, I love the acceptance they have for new things :-)

<s> <user> , i love the acceptance they have for new things :- ) </s>

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[00:12] <qazwer> but has not webadmin ?

[00:12] <qazwer> but has not webadmin ?

<s> but has not webadmin ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:12] <__learner__> does anyone here have EPSXE working under ubuntu?

[00:12] <__learner__> does anyone here have EPSXE working under ubuntu?

<s> does anyone here have epsxe working under ubuntu ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:12] <linux_galore> to say Linux only exists on the desktop and go away if you want anything else is to me very narrow

[00:12] <linux_galore> to say Linux only exists on the desktop and go away if you want anything else is to me very narrow

<s> to say linux only exists on the desktop and go away if you want anything else is to me very narrow </s>

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[00:13] <bluewheel> linux_galore, I thought linux's main use was on servers in the enterprise

[00:13] <bluewheel> linux_galore, I thought linux's main use was on servers in the enterprise

<s> <user> , i thought linux 's main use was on servers in the enterprise </s>

2004-12-25

[00:14] <arctick> anyone who wants a REAL stable server uses bsd though

[00:14] <arctick> anyone who wants a REAL stable server uses bsd though

<s> anyone who wants a real stable server uses bsd though </s>

2004-12-25

[00:14] <womble> Is there a dockable dialup management thing for Warty that I can give to ordinary users to control their PPP connection?

[00:14] <womble> Is there a dockable dialup management thing for Warty that I can give to ordinary users to control their PPP connection?

<s> is there a <unka> dialup management thing for warty that i can give to ordinary users to control their ppp connection ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:15] <linux_galore> bluewheel: yes and there are now companies that make server releases to match the desktop releases......you know its like saying ooh you can buy a family car but we dont do anything but family cars.......your dead in the water

[00:15] <linux_galore> bluewheel: yes and there are now companies that make server releases to match the desktop releases......you know its like saying ooh you can buy a family car but we dont do anything but family cars.......your dead in the water

<s> <user> : yes and there are now companies that make server releases to match the desktop releases ...... you know its like saying ooh you can buy a family car but we dont do anything but family cars ....... your dead in the water </s>

2004-12-25

[00:15] <daniels> you don't need separate server and desktop releases

[00:15] <daniels> you don't need separate server and desktop releases

<s> you do n't need separate server and desktop releases </s>

2004-12-25

[00:15] <linux_galore> pffft Ive got BSD servers that do just as good a dummy spit as Linux

[00:15] <linux_galore> pffft Ive got BSD servers that do just as good a dummy spit as Linux

<s> pffft ive got bsd servers that do just as good a dummy spit as linux </s>

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[00:16] <daniels> (distro wars are off topic)

[00:16] <daniels> (distro wars are off topic)

<s> ( distro wars are off topic ) </s>

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[00:16] <qazwer> yes, I don't think separate server and desktop releases

[00:16] <qazwer> yes, I don't think separate server and desktop releases

<s> yes , i do n't think separate server and desktop releases </s>

2004-12-25

[00:16] <bluewheel> see i've only run Linux on my home machines and my work desktop, I managed to get one work server to used Linux for a file server because win2k crashed too much and they were pull out hair

[00:16] <bluewheel> see i've only run Linux on my home machines and my work desktop, I managed to get one work server to used Linux for a file server because win2k crashed too much and they were pull out hair

<s> see i 've only run linux on my home machines and my work desktop , i managed to get one work server to used linux for a file server because win2k crashed too much and they were pull out hair </s>

2004-12-25

[00:16] <arctick> i dont think that analogy works with OOS

[00:16] <arctick> i dont think that analogy works with OOS

<s> i dont think that analogy works with oos </s>

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[00:16] <linux_galore> I know so have a desktop server selector in the install under expert

[00:16] <linux_galore> I know so have a desktop server selector in the install under expert

<s> i know so have a desktop server selector in the install under expert </s>

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[00:16] <arctick> oss rather

[00:16] <arctick> oss rather

<s> oss rather </s>

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[00:17] <linux_galore> I cant see a distro doing a good desktop and server from a single CD

[00:17] <linux_galore> I cant see a distro doing a good desktop and server from a single CD

<s> i cant see a distro doing a good desktop and server from a single cd </s>

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[00:17] <arctick> there are lots of custom-target distros that do quite well, look at knoppix

[00:17] <arctick> there are lots of custom-target distros that do quite well, look at knoppix

<s> there are lots of <unka-> distros that do quite well , look at knoppix </s>

2004-12-25

[00:18] <linux_galore> yes but say Im a corp with $$$ and Im like OK nice desktop but do you have a server option.......ooh use the same CD....eeer yeah right......Hello Mr Novell do you have a server to go with your desktop

[00:18] <linux_galore> yes but say Im a corp with $$$ and Im like OK nice desktop but do you have a server option.......ooh use the same CD....eeer yeah right......Hello Mr Novell do you have a server to go with your desktop

<s> yes but say im a corp with $$$ and im like ok nice desktop but do you have a server option ....... ooh use the same cd .... <unka> yeah right ...... hello mr novell do you have a server to go with your desktop </s>

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[00:18] <arctick> and the number of cds is pretty irrelevant when you have apt

[00:18] <arctick> and the number of cds is pretty irrelevant when you have apt

<s> and the number of cds is pretty irrelevant when you have apt </s>

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[00:18] <bluewheel> i am sure i will get canned for saying this but Solaris is a good out of the box Server OS

[00:18] <bluewheel> i am sure i will get canned for saying this but Solaris is a good out of the box Server OS

<s> i am sure i will get canned for saying this but solaris is a good out of the box server os </s>

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<s> <user> cans <user> </s>

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[00:19] <qazwer> My english not good.sorry.I'm from china.

[00:19] <qazwer> My english not good.sorry.I'm from china.

<s> my english not <unka.> 'm from china . </s>

2004-12-25

[00:19] <linux_galore> not everyone wants a free ride some people are happy to pay for the extra's

[00:19] <linux_galore> not everyone wants a free ride some people are happy to pay for the extra's

<s> not everyone wants a free ride some people are happy to pay for the extra 's </s>

2004-12-25

[00:19] <bluewheel> housetier, someone had to do it :-)

[00:19] <bluewheel> housetier, someone had to do it :-)

<s> <user> , someone had to do it :- ) </s>

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[00:19] <housetier> :)

[00:19] <housetier> :)

<s> :) </s>

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[00:19] <bluewheel> qazwer, where in china ?

[00:19] <bluewheel> qazwer, where in china ?

<s> <user> , where in china ? </s>

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[00:19] <Kamion> FYI, I renamed the 'custom' option to 'server' earlier today to drive home the point that it's perfectly reasonable to use Ubuntu as a server

[00:19] <Kamion> FYI, I renamed the 'custom' option to 'server' earlier today to drive home the point that it's perfectly reasonable to use Ubuntu as a server

<s> fyi , i renamed the 'custom' option to 'server' earlier today to drive home the point that it 's perfectly reasonable to use ubuntu as a server </s>

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[00:19] <qazwer> guangdong

[00:19] <qazwer> guangdong

<s> <unka> </s>

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[00:20] <bluewheel> qazwer, ahh ok have a friend in Bejing at the moment

[00:20] <bluewheel> qazwer, ahh ok have a friend in Bejing at the moment

<s> <user> , ahh ok have a friend in <unka> at the moment </s>

2004-12-25

[00:20] <linux_galore> Kamion: yeah but your not going to have apache mysql and php and a few mail server options squished into that single CD

[00:20] <linux_galore> Kamion: yeah but your not going to have apache mysql and php and a few mail server options squished into that single CD

<s> <user> : yeah but your not going to have apache mysql and php and a few mail server options squished into that single cd </s>

2004-12-25

[00:21] <qazwer> hehe,3q,but how to only to say you?

[00:21] <qazwer> hehe,3q,but how to only to say you?

<s> <unk#a,> how to only to say you ? </s>

2004-12-25

[00:21] <bluewheel> I think there is a need for server / desktop products to be differant, if for no other reason than we accept more failure on our desktop

[00:21] <bluewheel> I think there is a need for server / desktop products to be differant, if for no other reason than we accept more failure on our desktop

<s> i think there is a need for server desktop products to be differant , if for no other reason than we accept more failure on our desktop </s>

2004-12-25

[00:22] <bluewheel> a server though needs a seperate toobox to interface with since it is locked away somewhere deep in the depths

[00:22] <bluewheel> a server though needs a seperate toobox to interface with since it is locked away somewhere deep in the depths

<s> a server though needs a seperate <unka> to interface with since it is locked away somewhere deep in the depths </s>

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[00:22] <linux_galore> yes and the server rig can be a good money earner

[00:22] <linux_galore> yes and the server rig can be a good money earner

<s> yes and the server rig can be a good money <unka> </s>

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