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-----
--- 70634123
>refuses to let trans compete in female divisions
>gets shut down
that's what they deserve for being hateful bigots.
--- 70634182
>>70634123 (OP)
Cuck state
--- 70634234
we're so oppressed and if you disagree with us in any way all intuitional power in the country will conspire to crush you
--- 70635254
bump
--- 70635322
it's time the powerlifting community starts framing whatever they're doing in terms of body positivity/ fat acceptance
fight fire with fire
--- 70635423
>>70634123 (OP)
Hopefully powerlifting collapses entirely
--- 70635436
how can you ban a group of people from lifting weights and keeping score? what does the state have anything to with that?
--- 70635803
Serious question, why is Minnesota such a liberal shithole like California or New York. I always thought its economy was based on like farming and mining both of which don't seem to be liberal activities
--- 70635861
>>70635803
Because a vast amount of the state population lives in Minneapolis or Duluth which are liberal
--- 70635877
>>70634123 (OP)
Minnesota is a shithole, nothing of value was lost
--- 70635892
>>70634123 (OP)
Even trannies are against MtF competing in female divisions. Why are they trying to push this?
--- 70635899
>>70635803
After most of the automakers moved overseas and steel production tanked it turned into a gay metropolitan service economy and imported a bunch of shitskins
--- 70635912
>/pol/cels think Minnesota is a shithole 
Thank god. Stay out we’re full.
--- 70635923
>>70635892
> Even trannies are against MtF competing in female divisions
Lmao no they are not
--- 70635953
>>70635923
They are. Stop getting your opinions from cherrypicked twitter threads on /pol/
--- 70636369
>>70635953
they're delusional enough to think they're actually women. To say they can't compete against actual women shatters the illusion to them and brings them back to reality that they can't pass
--- 70636386
>>70635912
Id rather have chuds moving to MN than the shitskins we've been getting for the past 40 years
--- 70636470
>>70635912
The most popular new name in Minneapolis is Mohammed
--- 70636504
Not my problem.
You're just going to have to lift more, sweetie.
--- 70636832
>>70635899
>things got better when the retards lost their jobs and left
many such cases
--- 70637812
>>70636369
I've talked to a few trannies about this and all of them agree that mtf should not be in women's sports. The overwhelming majority of troons agree. You falling for a classic blunder here.
--- 70637826
>>70637812
I've talked to a few trannies about this and all of them agree that mtf should be in women's sports. The overwhelming majority of troons agree.
So much for anecdotal evidence.
--- 70637829
>>70634123 (OP)
Holy based
Powersharters btfo
--- 70637848
>>70637812
I've talked to myself, and I agree with myself that trannies belong in women's sport as it objectively improves both the performance metrics and the spectator experience.
Deal with it lmfao
--- 70637877
>>70635803
Same reason it's so full of Somalis. It was built by swedes and majority of the population was decended from swedes.
--- 70637912
>>70637812
I dont care they are gross and I hate them
--- 70637919
>>70635912
Ok goatfucker
--- 70638120
>>70635912
Rural Minnesota should be its own state. Fuck the twin cities and fuck Duluth.
--- 70638283
>>70634123 (OP)
>no trannies allowed
>in a sport where everyone is blatantly roiding
--- 70638460
>>70638120
I agree
--- 70638478
How do you "order" someone to stop lifting heavy things and putting them down? Whats there to stop them from rebranding? Also, can they not take that shit to supreme court? I thought Muttlandia is a free country
--- 70638553
>>70638478
From what I read, they said that a tranny (picrel) could compete if they met certain requirements, then reniggered on the deal. It’s a problem due to discrimination laws in MN. It’s possible to appeal, which they said they were going to.

Anyways, this whole thing is retarded. I remember Utah making a law to ban trannies from competing in high school and middle school sports, only to find that there was literally only one (1) person in the state doing so.
--- 70638563
>get a few big bastards from the local bbq
>have them go to every women's powerlifting championship in their state, bonus points if it's one where trannies have been competing in women's division
>identify as a woman on the spot
>break every powerlifting record they have on their books
>simultaneously collapse the notion of women's sports being good, cause trannies to seethe and dilate, and cause people to realize there are physical difference between people with an XX and XY chromosome set
Why don't people just do this?
--- 70638572
>>70638563
because its a woman-like tactic
--- 70638574
>>70638553
To be fair that does look like some fatassed Minnesota mom.
--- 70638576
>>70638574
u kidding me bro? That’s a midwest 9
--- 70638587
>>70638563
You can’t register unless you actually troon out.
--- 70638589
>>70638478
shlomo will send in his zogbots
--- 70638608
>>70638563
This is exactly what's happening in Alberta, Canada right now. The head coach for Canada Powerlifting has been entering woman's events for luls and smashing records.
--- 70638622
>>70636832
>better
--- 70638638
>>70634123 (OP)
>usa being degenerate
wow
--- 70638679
>>70638587
Lmao can't bar someone based on appearance or medical history or you risk looking like a transphobic bigot.
Rule 4 of Rules for Radicals: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
--- 70638698
>>70638679
>ari silverberg
can't make this shit up
--- 70638708
>>70638698
Based muscleheeb
--- 70638725
>>70634182
This is why. Minnesota is trying to be some kind of "safe state" for trannies as if they aren't the single most protected minority already.
--- 70638758
>>70638563
>why arent people just doing exactly what I accuse them of doing when I want to blame them?
--- 70638777
>>70635912
>his state's biggest attraction is a fucking mall
--- 70638779
>require female competitors to either be cis women or transwomen who have undergone HRT for a year or however long is deemed acceptable
>transwoman loses advantages of having extra test, as their hormones get giganuked from taking so much estradiol
>only differing factor between the cis and trans competitors would be height/weight/etc. which is already present in all sports and can often provide a larger difference than running a cycle or two. see: phelps, bolt
nobody, and mean NOBODY important gives a fuck about this shit. oh no the minnesota powerlifting event got shut down, wowie zowie fellow ledditurs not the MINNESOTA POWERLIFTING EVENT, WE BETTER SHIT OUTSELVES TRYING TO JUSTIFY WHY WE PROMISED SOMEONE THE ABILITY TO COMPETE AND THEN (seemingly illegally) WALKED IT BACK!!!

let people compete, people will always be asshurt for losing regardless of the reason
>t. has gotten life-threateningly good dome from transwomen before and approves of them doing
--- 70638797
bone is the factor in lifting
men, compared to woman, have hammer for bones, women are extremely weak bones
you can never undo this, and it will always be unfair
nobody focuses on the bone strength argument
--- 70638814
our ancestors would use the bone of dead males for tools & devices 
women would be tossed into the ocean
--- 70638823
>>70638777
I thought it was saint floyd's statue
--- 70638849
>>70638779
t.a faggot
yeah we could tell from your post, you didnt have to sign it.
--- 70638870
>>70638849
every man wishes to be gay and destroy his natural repulsion to same-sex engagement
--- 70638876
>>70638814
RIP
--- 70638882
>>70638876
women are good for one thing
they're not good athletes, they're not good at academics, they're not good at creative thought that isn't specific to them; they're only good for sex
once they lose their ability to be sexually attractive, it's fucking over
--- 70638902
>>70638849
>wow this guy let a 5'4" passing transgirl who has taken years of HRT gently work his cock and suck on his nuts until cumming all over her natural C-cup tits
homophobes really do be missing out on having their dicks worked by femmes whose only goal in life seems to be having their throats and assholes split in two by my meat
enjoy cranking your hog on /gif/ or whatever, king
--- 70638913
>>70638902
shut up faggot, you belong on troon spam /gif/
--- 70638919
>>70638902
hyper sexual females is a slippery slope
due to the way men's attraction works, largely visual base, they will eventually lose their easy run and not be able to sexually attract as easy as when they were 15
unless they secure a man with a strong bond + kids and make the kids love him, he will leave her and whores can't live forever
the only solution is commitment
--- 70638942
>>70638913
fantastic, thank you for the reply
>>70638919
>date girl
>she is fun and makes your life easier
>if the bedroom gets stale you can always open it up
i've had open relationships in the past, it's p good as long as the dude can actually get pussy. if you are a shitter then you're fucked but i've never had a period in my life where i didnt have women waiting in the wings
--- 70638952
>>70638942
good larp, sadly men can't get women like this, it's not possible
their brain doesn't allow them to setup girls, girls set him up; bonding is a 1 way street controled and owned by women
if a women wants you in her life, she creates a bond and leads you through it
if she doesn't, you're nothing to her
--- 70638970
>>70638952
exhausting conversation
i'm sorry you cant get laid, anon
you should pursue personalitymaxxing
--- 70638978
>>70638970
men are literal
women are abstract (where bonding happens)
men can only react to women, they can't re-plan or plan to get women; it's women who project these kinds of men in media
men are innocent, cute, naive and largely stupid
--- 70638997
just because you get a man step 1 doesn't mean he can do step 1-20
every step is new, every step required something else, nothing is concrete, this is why no man understand women; it's always adjusting and completely adaptive 
men can only be chosen, they can NEVER choose.
this is final, not up for debate
--- 70639010
>>70638978
i mean that is just retarded and wrong
i have met and fucked tons of women who would otherside not have decided to bring a random dude home to fuck them
i fucked a woman in a laundromat after chatting her up for 15 minutes
i fucked a woman in a marsh by a trail after chatting her up for 15 minutes
i fucked a woman at a state park beach after chatting her up for 15 minutes
none of these women went out going "hmm maybe i'll let some dude slap my tits around and choke me and cum on my face in public today"
it was because I wanted to do it and made it happen
women and men both can be passive or reactive to other people, and it can change throughout the day and throughout their lives
--- 70639020
>>70639010
ur a woman larping as a man
an ugly sight, but nothing more can be expected from an incel
women without sex appeal are dead vessles
the only way to build it back up is through sexually successful women, and them bringing you into your bedroom for threesomes
good luck
--- 70639058
>>70639020
>woman larping as a man
hmm
i have met many women that i am not attracted to that i still spend time with, because they are fun and pleasant to be around. i'm sure there are plenty of women who are my friend even through they are not sexually attracted to me
you sound like a 22 year old who has tried (failed) to get pussy in college and has read Eros once and decided that they understand the cosmic forces behind the sexes now
--- 70639068
>>70639058
u got dumped, thought u could make something happen online, thought this could be ur ticket to a fresh life, u couldn't figure out the most important thing: how 2 project sexual energy
gross bitch
--- 70639093
>>70639068
i literally have a girlfriend and will be going to a goth event later this month where i will have sex with other women, and my girlfriend both knows and is okay with this
i have been dumped one time in my life, and i'm still in contact with her as we are good friends
i do not enjoy taking to chatbots, anon, please stop
--- 70639097
>>70638553
>only to find that there was literally only one (1) person in the state doing so.
as an aside what's the issue with this? Who cares if it's one or one million, is something being right or wrong dependent on the current amount of offenders? The lawmaking process has always been one of response, they're responding to the ridiculous notion of men competing in women's sports that's trendy for some to put forward atm
--- 70639103
>>70638882
>t. not good at athletics, academics, creative thought, or sex
--- 70639122
>>70639093
u have a weird fixation on goth girls
u wish u were one
ur vomit inducing

>>70639103
cuz i don't have a pussy i'm good at everything
women, although superior minds, get held back by their genitals screaming at them every morning
it's why rejection kills them, it's layered with the grossed thing between their legs
--- 70639231
>>70638572
This is literally how jews win though. If being an honorable man means you consistently lose then you are only being honorable for yourself, which in unmanly. I don’t like it either but the entire planet is at stake. All that matters is winning at this point and if that means jewish/female tactics/manipulation then those are the rules of the game and how to win.
--- 70639324
>>70639122
>i'm good at everything
except conceiving a son
--- 70639339
>>70639324
the girl i tried bonding with 2 do that turned out to be a giga-psycho non-virgin cunt
--- 70639350
>>70638553
>only one (1) person in the state doing so
nip it in the bud, Andy
--- 70639387
>>70639339
looks like you're not good at finding a compatible mate to pass on your genes 
hope your father has another son to counteract you being a dead end
--- 70639394
>>70639387
my father gets what he deserves
--- 70639400
>>70634123 (OP)
--- 70639429
>>70635892
No they’re not lol that would require them to invalidate their own existence as absurd.
--- 70639458
>>70634123 (OP)
weightlifting and boxing wont even be a sport in the Olympics after the 2024 cycle because of rampant doping controversies.
powerlifting should go the way boxing is going and just become an exhibition show with guys like Eddie and Thor etc.
--- 70639465
>>70639097
>trannies, sorry, tranny in sports are what we should spend our time legislating.
>it’s an important issue! It must be stopped at the governmental level! Vote for common sense penis inspection, goy.
--- 70639491
>>70638779
Men are still stronger than women just from the way their skeletons and muscles are connected, as well as their bone density. Test is only part of it.
--- 70639538
>>70638779
Go back
--- 70639545
>>70639491
who cares
when have you ever given a fuck about womens sports before trannies were involved
if you are arguing just to argue then kill yourself
--- 70639560
>>70639058
Why is everyone growing these disgusting mustaches? You have no business growing a mustache you just look like you have a hard drive full of CP.
--- 70639575
>>70639560
just one?
--- 70639621
Why do transgenders want to compete in powerlifting? Aren't they transitioning because they want to wear a dress and get fucked in the ass?
--- 70639675
>>70639545
What? You're an idiot. You implied that testosterone was the only advantage biological men have. I wasn't arguing, I was Informing you spastic faggot.
--- 70639716
>>70639675
again, who fucking cares about the integrity of voluntary non-professional sports, womens or otherwise
people kvetching about tranneis in womens powerlifting(lol) are mentally ill, including you
--- 70639871
>>70638919
>turned
built for bbc
--- 70639890
>>70634123 (OP)
Daily reminder these people have families and addresses
--- 70639985
>>70637812
Maybe troons shouldn't have let all their voices be drowned out by leftwing activists. This is the exact same thing that happened to feminism.
--- 70640009
>>70638587
This. Is. Literally. GENOCIDE. Trans-erasure you fucking bigot.
--- 70640041
>>70635912
you inflicted george floyd on this nation, you're california tier.
--- 70640087
>>70638608
The best part of it is he took the record from a trans woman. Who is mad because a man stole her record. Sweet justice
--- 70640442
>>70639560
I, too, was angry when I couldn't have a mustache perched on my lip. your day will come, buddy
--- 70640455
>>70635803
generational mind fuckery
--- 70640474
>>70639465
i sense a hint of anti-semitism in your post
--- 70640484
>>70637812
yeah let's just take your word for it because you talk to transvestites all the time. very trustworthy source, people that talk to transvestites regularly.

why can't the organization simply give them different awards in the same competition? like literally skip over them with the trophies and give them a tinned dilator or something
--- 70640500
>>70635912
full of opiates and race rioters
--- 70640608
>>70635803
It's literally just faggots from Minneapolis. Every other part of the state hates their bullshit.
--- 70640874
I had an english teacher from minnesota, she was this tall horse faced liberal white women. Weedhead and extremely liberal, I distinctly remember her dismissing the class early after the day of Trumps election to wallow in sorrow
--- 70641057
>>70640484
seems like a good compromise to keep normal people in the competition.
--- 70641437
>men are proven to be 43% stronger than women
it's joever
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrE-nY6pe5S/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
--- 70641538
>>70635803
Large population of descendants from Norway. Sorry about that.
--- 70641572
>>70634123 (OP)
Not my problem, Thank god I'm not an american who has to kneel to freaks or else I'll lose my job.
--- 70641607
>>70641538
>brown shithole cunts are all conservative
>white cunts are all progressive
why is it like this
--- 70642342
>>70634123 (OP)
I mean, that's what they need to do. Just boycott any cuck state that does this. It's funny we jerk off "democracy" so much and then shit like this happens and you have literally zero say. Imagine China being more sane than a US state.

>>70635803
Union fags so they have that boomer apathy towards all the satanic shit going on, as long as they get their government bribes.

>>70635892
Don't even try with the "good tranny" astroturfing. I've been around them, you're full of shit.
--- 70642380
>>70638563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwfWnddHq6g [Embed]
--- 70642393
>>70641607
Brown people got enough problems already. They don't need to add being mentally ill and suicidal to the list
--- 70642401
>>70640608
This is literally the relationship that Oregon has with Portland. You have this one small geographic place writing laws for a lot of places they have no clue about.
--- 70642488
>>70634123 (OP)
1. Are trannies at an advantage compared to cis women of similar size and experience?
2. If so, how do we quantify that advantage?
3. If there's an advantage, is there anything we can do to make it fair? Weight class adjustments etc?
4. If not, should trannies be banned outright from the sport in question? 
We haven't even concretely answered the first question, we shouldn't be skipping to #4. EVERY example of a tranny "dominating" sports is someone who was a high level male athlete pre-transition.
--- 70642496
>>70637877
This is the regretable truth
--- 70642555
My own anecdotal experience, from someone who was not athletic at all pre-transition (a 270lb neet), is this. 
Compared to women my size, my cardio is consistently significantly better. However I'm physically weaker than almost every woman I meet that actually works out, even those significantly smaller than me. 
This makes sense. My viscera did not change size with transition, however due to my lack of ovaries, my Testosterone levels are consistently lower than 99% of women, leading to low strength in spite of decent muscle size. 
Should I be allowed to compete with women? I dunno, maybe? If I wanted to become a powerlifter it'd be fair. But if I wanted to get into Running, I couldn't in clear conscious do something like that. 
I'm personally training to compete in Boxing, and when I do I plan on always being a weight class below my opponent, to balance out any advantages I may or may not have. 
I don't want to be at an advantage, that would make me dysphoric, but I wouldn't mind being at a disadvantage.
--- 70642641
>>70634234
Don't forget they will shoot you too.
--- 70642648
>be private organisation
>decide something
>BIG JACKBOOT OF THE STATE COMES DOWN ON YOUR THROAT
--- 70642697
>>70642488
>we need to do everything humanly possible to make sure something isn't happening before deciding anything ever
fuck off retard. 
seeing trannies cave in the skulls of women in mma was enough for every normal person to say: no thank you. And even besides that, you're not women. it makes no sense to begin with.
--- 70643201
>>70635436
Anti-discrimination laws. For people who don't realize that the freedom of association also implies its opposite, freedom from association. In other words, you have the right to associate with whomever you please, but you also have the right to not associate.
Progressives refuse to accept this, so they believe they can force people to associate with others without consent. In this case, a weightlifting organization must require female lifters to associate with deluded male lifters without the org's (or the females') consent. If the organization asserts its rights, it is forced to cease operations.
Basically, "I do not consent" = quit, or get fined / incarcerated.
--- 70643294
>>70634123 (OP)
I'm in favor of trans rights because I hate women.
--- 70643335
>>70635912
post hand, achmed
--- 70643457
>>70638553
He's a big girl
--- 70643827
>>70635912
come to northern Wisconsin 
its comfy here
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>>70642488
1. trannies have xy chromosomes
there thats it thats all you fucking need to know NIGGERLOVER
fucking kill yourself faggot kike cocksucker
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>>70640087
>her
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>>70643457
for you
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>>70642555
You will never be a woman.
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>>70643201
>umm, I should be free to kick out NIGGERS for being BLACK NIGGERS
>what do you mean that’s discrimination?
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>>70638563
because we don't care about women's sports
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>>70635803
Same reason Sweden is so politically fucked up: Swedes.
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oh look its another foreigner esl thread